witesoxfan Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 If Alou is signed for, say, 1/$6, and he receives anywhere from 300-400 ABs off the bench as a 4th OFer/platoon partner, he's easily worth it, because he's always going to hit. However, I doubt he accepts an offer where he isn't starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 QUOTE(VAfan @ Nov 9, 2006 -> 02:45 PM) And he'd be a better lead off hitter than Scott Podsednik. Um, shouldn't that be in green? Alou should NEVER EVER be considered for the lead-off role. EVER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 He won't settle for a platoon job. But if the Sox signed him, they'd have no reason to platoon him, anyway. He murders lefties, true. He'd sit cuz he merely hits extremely well against righties? I think there's a slim to none chance Alou ends up with the Sox, just saying, his willingness to accept a platoon job won't have anything to do with that determination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 I think we need to tell Moises to piss off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 WE do need to address poor results against left handers-bad ones look good against us. This is an idea that has merit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 I like the idea, but no pee pee on hands...you hear?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Nov 10, 2006 -> 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> WE do need to address poor results against left handers-bad ones look good against us. This is an idea that has merit In 2006, these lefthanders had the following Sox players hit well against them: Santana: Pablo and Jim Thome Sabathia:Pablo and Jermaine Lee: Crede, Jermaine, Mack, Iguchi, Konerko Rogers: Anderson, Dye(.851 OPS,) Konerko (.833) we didn't hit his cheating ass that well Robertson: Crede, Dye, Thome, Uribe Redman: Anderson, Crede, Konerko, Pablo, Thome Perez: Crede, Iguchi, and Pablo Where exactly do you plan to start? Looks like LF, C, and SS to me. Yet people think trading Thome because "he can't hit any left handers" is a good idea. :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Nov 10, 2006 -> 12:30 PM) In 2006, these lefthanders had the following Sox players hit well against them: Santana: Pablo and Jim Thome Sabathia:Pablo and Jermaine Lee: Crede, Jermaine, Mack, Iguchi, Konerko Rogers: Anderson, Dye(.851 OPS,) Konerko (.833) we didn't hit his cheating ass that well Robertson: Crede, Dye, Thome, Uribe Redman: Anderson, Crede, Konerko, Pablo, Thome Perez: Crede, Iguchi, and Pablo Where exactly do you plan to start? Looks like LF, C, and SS to me. Yet people think trading Thome because "he can't hit any left handers" is a good idea. :rolly I'm pretty sure the poster was saying the idea of signing Alou has merit, not the idea of trading Thome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Nov 10, 2006 -> 11:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm pretty sure the poster was saying the idea of signing Alou has merit, not the idea of trading Thome. I'm not going to make a seperate post to address moving Thome. That is why I generalized a group of "people" and not say "you" want to trade Thome. Signing a guy just to platoon with him is stupid IMO, but Alou could play DH against LHP and play LF against RHP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Nov 10, 2006 -> 12:38 PM) I'm not going to make a seperate post to address moving Thome. That is why I generalized a group of "people" and not say "you" want to trade Thome. Signing a guy just to platoon with him is stupid IMO, but Alou could play DH against LHP and play LF against RHP That's fine, I just don't understand how you were responding to that post. Trading Thome -- seems like an idea that a couple people have floated, but I haven't seen tons of people clamoring for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Nov 10, 2006 -> 12:17 PM) That's fine, I just don't understand how you were responding to that post. Trading Thome -- seems like an idea that a couple people have floated, but I haven't seen tons of people clamoring for it. I dont think anyone wants Thome except us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Nov 10, 2006 -> 12:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's fine, I just don't understand how you were responding to that post. Trading Thome -- seems like an idea that a couple people have floated, but I haven't seen tons of people clamoring for it. He said we should address our problem against left handed pitchers. Although he wants to focus on the bad ones, I put focus on the lefties in our division. As you could see by the breakdown, the only guy who seemingly hits LHP is Pablo and Dye. He said we should improve our hitting with the only suggestion (my assumption as I am going along with the thread) being signing Alou to platoon with Thome. It is obvious our holes last last season were LF, C, and SS. Not the DH. QUOTE(Jimbo @ Nov 10, 2006 -> 12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I dont think anyone wants Thome except us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Nov 10, 2006 -> 10:17 AM) That's fine, I just don't understand how you were responding to that post. Trading Thome -- seems like an idea that a couple people have floated, but I haven't seen tons of people clamoring for it. He still has something of a no-trade clause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 I'd rather the sox take a flier on Shannon Stewart if the prognosis for his foot is decent. He'd be a short timer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kane0730 Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 QUOTE(beck72 @ Nov 10, 2006 -> 03:02 PM) I'd rather the sox take a flier on Shannon Stewart if the prognosis for his foot is decent. He'd be a short timer. This is the first time I've heard his name, and I love the idea. If healthy, there's our leadoff and starting LF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 QUOTE(kane0730 @ Nov 10, 2006 -> 09:18 PM) This is the first time I've heard his name, and I love the idea. If healthy, there's our leadoff and starting LF. For the risk/ reward , Stewart is a much better option than most names being floated about. But the sox would have to have other deals lined up as well. Particularly a SS who could hit near the top of the order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 QUOTE(beck72 @ Nov 10, 2006 -> 01:02 PM) I'd rather the sox take a flier on Shannon Stewart if the prognosis for his foot is decent. He'd be a short timer. If KW could be convinced he was healthy, I'd have no problem with that...but I'm just not sure he could convince people that he'd stay healthy. And I'm also not sure he has enough of that speed that Ozzie/so many folks here want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 QUOTE(Jimbo @ Nov 10, 2006 -> 12:31 PM) I dont think anyone wants Thome except us. Yeah, who would want one of the best hitters in the league???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 10, 2006 -> 09:29 PM) If KW could be convinced he was healthy, I'd have no problem with that...but I'm just not sure he could convince people that he'd stay healthy. And I'm also not sure he has enough of that speed that Ozzie/so many folks here want. Stewart doesn't have the speed. But he is the type of versatile hitter the sox could use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted November 11, 2006 Author Share Posted November 11, 2006 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Nov 10, 2006 -> 12:38 PM) I'm not going to make a seperate post to address moving Thome. That is why I generalized a group of "people" and not say "you" want to trade Thome. Signing a guy just to platoon with him is stupid IMO, but Alou could play DH against LHP and play LF against RHP That was my idea when making this post. The problem is we still dont have a leadoff hitter then unless we go out and sign pierre or something to play center and lead off. Although Im not giving up on our home grown talen, sweeney and anderson both could be valuable sox cornerstone players in the not too distant future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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