southsider2k5 Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Dec 16, 2006 -> 07:41 AM) http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti...CAL19/612160469 Bayh won't be running in 2008. My secret guess is someone told him that he would be their VP if he dropped out, and since Obama is from the next door state, I know who my guess would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Former Wisconsin Governor and Secretary of Housing and Human Services Tommy Thompson is going to join the Republican field. QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 16, 2006 -> 12:23 PM) My secret guess is someone told him that he would be their VP if he dropped out, and since Obama is from the next door state, I know who my guess would be. Bayh might make an ideal VP pick for Obama, Bayh's much more of an insider-type, coming from a political family, involved in politics for years, in with the DLC, big with a lot of the insiders, just the sort of thing Obama in many ways isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16239360/ John Edwards will be trying again in '08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Obama never really says anything worth while he's just been pumped up by the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 QUOTE(mr_genius @ Dec 16, 2006 -> 08:00 PM) Obama never really says anything worth while he's just been pumped up by the media. That's pretty much the way I see it at this point. That may change between now and the primaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 October 2005: Long Branch, NJ. 2000 people turn out to see him speak at a rally for the Governor race. It was one of three rallies featuring Obama that day within an hour of each other. Each of them had 2000+ people, on an off cycle election year. Obama isn't a flash in the pan. He has the touch of a Bill Clinton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Dec 17, 2006 -> 06:14 AM) October 2005: Long Branch, NJ. 2000 people turn out to see him speak at a rally for the Governor race. It was one of three rallies featuring Obama that day within an hour of each other. Each of them had 2000+ people, on an off cycle election year. Obama isn't a flash in the pan. He has the touch of a Bill Clinton. He speaks well - very eloquent. That's it. What is his record? Flimsy. Now I'm not saying that he isn't "right", only that his record shouldn't support him as presidential material, yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 He'll have more foreign policy experience than our current President. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 John Edwards will do his official announcement of his candidacy from the lower 9th ward in New Orleans, sometime in the normal media vacuum between Christmas and New Years. (I hope it's a media vacuum that is, considering what happened in that spot 2 years ago). I'll give him credit...it's purely symbolic, but that's exactly the place politicians should be focusing their attention (aside from that little disaster in the middle east of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Dec 17, 2006 -> 09:00 AM) He'll have more foreign policy experience than our current President. :-) oh man, i hope the bar hasn't been lowered to "well, he'll probably have a better foreign policy that GW Bush." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 17, 2006 -> 03:13 PM) John Edwards will do his official announcement of his candidacy from the lower 9th ward in New Orleans, sometime in the normal media vacuum between Christmas and New Years. (I hope it's a media vacuum that is, considering what happened in that spot 2 years ago). I'll give him credit...it's purely symbolic, but that's exactly the place politicians should be focusing their attention (aside from that little disaster in the middle east of course) Edwards time has come, and gone. He's spinning his wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Am I the only one who can't look at John Edwards without thinking Jack Tripper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 I don't see much beneath Edwards' southern charm. I think he's pretty thin on real leadership skills. Just my take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 personally, i like john edwards. I think he is a great guy. I just don't think he has enough experience in order to be President. (ditto Obama) he'd be a great guy to lead Secretary of Housing and Urban Development or Labor for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 16, 2006 -> 02:23 PM) My secret guess is someone told him that he would be their VP if he dropped out, and since Obama is from the next door state, I know who my guess would be. Could be, yet I wonder if that would have enough balance for the ticket. If he runs, and if he gets to the point of selecting a VP running mate, it will have to be someone with loads of experiece and credibility. So that would fit, I just wonder if geographic balance is an issue any more. Doesn't he need a Texan? Honestly I am not that excited about him running. I would feel better if this was 2012 and he had more experience and we had more of a chance to see him as an elected official. I believe the GOP is pumping up Hillary and Obama much more than the Dems. Either of those two would either have a huge groundswell sweeping them in, or zero traction. I don't see a close election night nail biter like the previous two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 So, its way early for this, but just for fun... If people here had to guess what the Dem and GOP tickets will look like for the 2008 election, what is your current best guess? I'll go with... GOP: McCain/Romney or Giuliani/McCain Dem: Edwards or Obama for Prez, Obama or Richardson for VP (some combination thereof) Regarding names not shown above... For the Dems, Kerry will bow out early, Clinton with be Obama's biggest competitor but lose (she'll start hot and then flame out quickly), Vilsack/Clark/Biden/Kucinich will be also-rans. Edwards starts 3rd but passes Clinton at some point as does Obama, Richardson just barely above the also-rans before dropping out mid-way and hoping for a VP bid. On the GOP side, Giuliani won't accept a VP bid, so he is all or none. Romney is the perfect political offset to McCain. Brownback won't get anywhere. And I don't see any other names being discussed for a GOP nod that has a chance. Anyone else care to add their questionable speculation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Gingrich, if he runs at all, says he will wait until well into 2007 before announcing. He also won't bother if one candidate appears to be locked up for it. I suspect he could make some real noise if he ran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 (edited) Question: Do you think Cheney will run for President as lame duck VP even with his health and questionable Halliburton/Quail hunting background? Seems to me he'd be an anchor around the neck of the Republicans. Edited December 18, 2006 by knightni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 just like in '92 when a dark horse came out of nowhere, Richardson will emerge with the nomination. He will then choose former VA Govenor Mark Warner as his VP after Hillary turns down the offer. on the republican side, Mitt Romney will win the nomination and select John McCain as his VP to off-set Richardson's southwestern draw and to keep AZ in the republican column. a tight presidential race follows but Richardson pulls it off with a 290-248 electoral college vote win. Changes from the 2004 race include... * New Mexico from Republican to Democrat * Nevada from Republican to Democrat * Colorado from Republican to Democrat * Wisconsin from Democrat to Republican * Ohio from Republican to Democrat * Virginia from Republican to Democrat * New Hampshire from Democrat to Republican Romney/McCain also win close races in held-states Iowa, Arizona and Florida Richardson/Warner win close races in held-states Minnesota, Washington and Maine. now that 2008 is done, should we start working on '12??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 QUOTE(knightni @ Dec 18, 2006 -> 10:35 AM) Question: Do you think Cheney will run for President as lame duck VP even with his health and questionable Halliburton/Quail hunting background? Seems to me he'd be an anchor around the neck of the Republicans. Cheney has said repeatedly and adamantly that he has zero desire to run for Prez. And in his case, with the way he has stated it, I'd guess he is telling the truth. Plus he is not seen by the GOP as a good draw for anyone outside the party hardline. I see zero chance of him running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 QUOTE(mr_genius @ Dec 17, 2006 -> 02:58 PM) oh man, i hope the bar hasn't been lowered to "well, he'll probably have a better foreign policy that GW Bush." Yes, it has been. In the end, when it comes to the question of his relative inexperience, Obama himself offers the best retort: "Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld have an awful lot of experience." 'Nuff said. Anyway, on other Obamamania news, I'm going to steal this from the Economist. IF YOU do nothing else all day, set aside five minutes and do this: (i) read this story and then (ii) listen to this audio Now. Do your still have any serious doubts who will be the next president of the United States? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 18, 2006 -> 11:41 AM) Yes, it has been. Anyway, on other Obamamania news, I'm going to steal this from the Economist. I can't access the audio. Would you mind giving an overview? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 18, 2006 -> 10:45 AM) I can't access the audio. Would you mind giving an overview? Chitrib, scroll down a little for the Obama blurb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 18, 2006 -> 12:49 PM) Chitrib, scroll down a little for the Obama blurb. Well, at least Obama might be a President willing to admit when he went horribly awry. I still want to know where he will stand on the issues, and what sort of leader he will turn out to be in the executive sense. There is just not enough data I can find as of yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 I'm not a big fan of Edwards, but he's done a lot for the Dems in the last four years, and would be more than acceptable to the base that the Dems would need to turn out. He probably could get North Carolina AND Virginia to flip red to blue, which might be enough. Especially if Warner gets a VP nod. IMO, I think of the current candidates, I'd like to see an Obama nomination - if nothing else to see someone other than a white male at the head of a ticket. But I'd want Schweitzer, Richardson or Warner to be the VP nod. If Al Gore wanted this nomination though.... if we get real Al Gore, and not consulted algore, I'd be all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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