Allsox Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Reading the various sites, it seems that the Blue Jays will try to trade Vernon Wells if the Hurt signs with them. With that in mind, how about the Sox swapping Garcia and a pitching prospect for Wells? Granted, he'd be a one yr rental but if Brian Anderson has fallen that far in the Sox eyes, I'd rather trade for Wells than trading back for Aaron Rowand. Whatcha say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 I kinda mentioned that in another thread actually... The Sox and Jays could be a great fit for each other in this sort of a deal. The Sox would love Wells, and Toronto would love one of our starters, especially with Lilly looking all but gone, and then Anderson to replace Wells in CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 We need young pitching depth back in a trade not hitting. I know this is a topic discussed in many threads but I think that is what wins and what KW will acquire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 I also don't see Toronto trading Wells for Garcia/Anderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsox Posted November 16, 2006 Author Share Posted November 16, 2006 QUOTE(spiderman @ Nov 16, 2006 -> 02:56 PM) I also don't see Toronto trading Wells for Garcia/Anderson. Toronto's got some holes in the starting rotation: Halladay Burnett Chacin ?????? ?????? Garcia would slip into the 3rd slot nicely for them and you know Burnett's gonna be gone for his usual month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 That still leaves a hole in LF. Looks like Pierre and Roberts are going to sign elsewhere. Soooo, we are still one LF and one leadoff hitter short. Wells would be great, but unless there's a leadoff hitter in there, forget it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Nov 16, 2006 -> 09:26 AM) That still leaves a hole in LF. Looks like Pierre and Roberts are going to sign elsewhere. Soooo, we are still one LF and one leadoff hitter short. Wells would be great, but unless there's a leadoff hitter in there, forget it. Gload in LF and hitting second, new shortstop who can hit leadoff (one of the many discussed here, or maybe even Young, not prototypical, but high OBP). That would be ideal, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 16, 2006 -> 09:37 AM) Gload in LF and hitting second, new shortstop who can hit leadoff (one of the many discussed here, or maybe even Young, not prototypical, but high OBP). That would be ideal, IMO. That's a LOT of trading for major league talent...which scares me because the cupboard is getting pretty bare. Let's worry about pitching first, that's what's going to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hideaway Lights Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Yeah, I really don't understand why anyone thinks we need to address hitting. Pitching was the problem last year. Although getting rid of Garcia might be addition by subtraction anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 I'm still drooling over the idea of having an outfield of Wells, Anderson, Dye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Its not about hitting, its about a new CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Nov 16, 2006 -> 08:37 AM) Its not about hitting, its about a new CF. Um, isn't the only reason why we'd actually need a new CF the hitting? As far as I could tell based on last year, the only thing we'd do defensively in CF is going to be to downgrade compared to our supposed starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 16, 2006 -> 11:00 AM) Um, isn't the only reason why we'd actually need a new CF the hitting? As far as I could tell based on last year, the only thing we'd do defensively in CF is going to be to downgrade compared to our supposed starter. I don't think they were very many CF substantially better then BA especially the price it would be to acquire the individual who would be better defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 (edited) Garcia AND a pitching prospect for Wells? No way and we don't really need Wells anyway. Why trade our strength and what wins games for another hitter? We have youngsters that can play the field and you never have enough pitching. I would like us to keep our starting hurlers. Maybe we can pick up a reliever as a FA or trade though. Edited November 16, 2006 by elrockinMT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 16, 2006 -> 12:42 PM) I love Anderson, but take a look at Wells and his numbers. If Williams was able to get Toronto to do Wells for Garcia and Broadway, he should run back to Chicago, and find a really good hiding spot, because it would be a steal. I would do that too, as long as we could sign Wells long-term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 16, 2006 -> 11:42 AM) I love Anderson, but take a look at Wells and his numbers. If Williams was able to get Toronto to do Wells for Garcia and Broadway, he should run back to Chicago, and find a really good hiding spot, because it would be a steal. If we didn't have other pressing needs, I would do that, but JP Ricciardi would be bombarded by backbacon and Molson if he did that trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank the Tank 35 Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Wells has had up and down seasons. In '06 it was up, but would you want to risk our biggest trading chips this offseason for a chance at replicating that? He's basically had 5 full years in the majors after short appearances in the 3 previous. In his 3 down years ('02, '04, '05), he averaged about a .272/.320/.785 line. In his 2 up years ('03, '06), he averaged about a .310/.358/.905 line. Given the market for FA's this season and his stats last year, I can't see him accepting an extension worth less than $15 mil/season. Hey, if the Sox brass think we can afford it, then I'm all for it. You have to take chances to be the champ, and this is one that could pay off big time. Realistically though, it doesn't look feasible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 If you have a chance to pick up one of the best players in the game, you do it. Wells not only plays GG defense, but would be one of the best hitters on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank the Tank 35 Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 If the deal was just straight up Garcia + prospects, then hell yes. It would be a raping. What it would probably cost, ie multiple major league parts, might be overpaying. At this time last year, his numbers were more pedestrian. Last year at this time would you have traded Garcia and one of our best prospects for Wells? Mmm... maybe, but just barely. Sure in '06 his OPS for CF only trailed Beltran and Sizemore. But in '05, Brady Clark and David DeJesus had higher OPS numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 (edited) I think the Neal Cotts trade shows more than enough evidence that none of us have any idea what he [KW] is thinking and what he wants to do. Edited November 16, 2006 by BobDylan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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