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From the Sun-Times:

 

Among the more interesting scenarios is a pitch that sources say the Los Angeles Angels made for right-hander Freddy Garcia, whom they highly covet. The Angels' deal would call for a package that includes right-hander Ervin Santana, who turns 24 on Dec. 12.

 

I don't covet the idea of facing Freddy in the playoffs, but any package that includes Santana sure gets my attention.

 

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Why the angels would get rid of Santana for freddy is beyond me. But it did say as part of a package [Josh Fields perhaps?] I'd take santana. Though with is name mentioned in a deal for Carl Crawford, moving him to TB would be hard to pass up.

 

One thing is clear, that the sox should get a really good deal for one of their SP's.

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QUOTE(Capn12 @ Nov 17, 2006 -> 06:29 AM)
If I'm presented with the opportunity to move Garcia for Santana, then I have to SERIOUSLY hold back my giddyness if I'm KW....I would be all ears at that idea, unless they started kicking around the wrong names to go with Garcia...

 

Read again the way that is worded. Santana would be part of a package, not Garcia.

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It looks like KW is going to move quick on some of these:

 

"I think that's the byproduct of an over-inflated free-agent market," Chicago White Sox GM Kenny Williams said. "I think it prompts you to get serious in trade talks and explore trade opportunities quicker."
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I really think something is going to get done with either the Angels, Mets or Rangers TODAY.

 

And I would take Santana for Garcia, straight up. Santana would still be under our control for another 4 seasons, has great stuff, and just needs to develop more consistency to become a frontline starting pitching.

 

But I wonder if the Sox could try to get Maicer Izturis or even Chone Figgins off the Angels hands here.

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QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Nov 17, 2006 -> 07:28 AM)
I really think something is going to get done with either the Angels, Mets or Rangers TODAY.

 

And I would take Santana for Garcia, straight up. Santana would still be under our control for another 4 seasons, has great stuff, and just needs to develop more consistency to become a frontline starting pitching.

 

But I wonder if the Sox could try to get Maicer Izturis or even Chone Figgins off the Angels hands here.

I agree, if not today, very soon. It seems like the teams are seeing what the FA pitching is going to cost and KW is getting a ton of attention from the other GMs. It should be interesting this week.

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QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Nov 17, 2006 -> 08:22 AM)
Wow. 6 months ago Anaheim wouldn't move Santana for anything, and how they are offering him AND other players for Freddy? Wow.

 

Well, I think they might be overpaying for a guy in his contract year, but we've seen this movie before when Kenny traded for Freddy.

 

Frankly, I think Garcia is one of the better starters in the league, and I can't blame the Angels for wanting him. I'd imagine they'd try to extend him, and my guess is that they believe he'll be back in top form next year, something I believe, too, once he's had a full offseason since he's pitched so many innings in the last two years.

 

Freddy's very undervalued, IMO, not just around the league but in his own city, too. I think the coolest thing the crowds at Comiskular did this year, though, was cheer his name in his last homestart against Seattle.

 

(Needless to say, I'd love to have him back and deal one of the other four, and probably extend him, too. Ah, if only we lived in an ideal world.)

 

Question: let's say the Sox deal Freddy for Santana.

 

Anybody got a problem dealing, oh, Garland and Uribe for Young and a couple of pitching prospects? How about Cintron and Garland? Then we'd have a rotation that looks like,

 

Buehrle

Contreras

Vazquez

Santana

McCarthy

 

Frees up money and looks good to me.

 

If we can land Santana, I think we should deal another pitcher.

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QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Nov 17, 2006 -> 08:42 AM)
Anybody got a problem dealing, oh, Garland and Uribe for Young and a couple of pitching prospects? How about Cintron and Garland? Then we'd have a rotation that looks like,

 

Buehrle

Contreras

Vazquez

Santana

McCarthy

 

Frees up money and looks good to me.

 

If we can land Santana, I think we should deal another pitcher.

I'd rather deal Contreras than Garland (although Garland would make more sense for the Rangers), but yes, I'd love to get Santana and then spin off another starter in a deal for an offensive upgrade.

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QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Nov 17, 2006 -> 09:42 AM)
Well, I think they might be overpaying for a guy in his contract year, but we've seen this movie before when Kenny traded for Freddy.

 

Frankly, I think Garcia is one of the better starters in the league, and I can't blame the Angels for wanting him. I'd imagine they'd try to extend him, and my guess is that they believe he'll be back in top form next year, something I believe, too, once he's had a full offseason since he's pitched so many innings in the last two years.

 

Freddy's very undervalued, IMO, not just around the league but in his own city, too. I think the coolest thing the crowds at Comiskular did this year, though, was cheer his name in his last homestart against Seattle.

 

(Needless to say, I'd love to have him back and deal one of the other four, and probably extend him, too. Ah, if only we lived in an ideal world.)

 

Question: let's say the Sox deal Freddy for Santana.

 

Anybody got a problem dealing, oh, Garland and Uribe for Young and a couple of pitching prospects? How about Cintron and Garland? Then we'd have a rotation that looks like,

 

Buehrle

Contreras

Vazquez

Santana

McCarthy

 

Frees up money and looks good to me.

 

If we can land Santana, I think we should deal another pitcher.

 

I agree with all of this. It was no fluke the way Garcia was pitching at the end of the year. The one thing I won't miss is Freddie making every baserunner look like Ricky Henderson. That drove me nuts.

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QUOTE(Capn12 @ Nov 17, 2006 -> 06:29 AM)
If I'm presented with the opportunity to move Garcia for Santana, then I have to SERIOUSLY hold back my giddyness if I'm KW....I would be all ears at that idea, unless they started kicking around the wrong names to go with Garcia...

 

If the Sox got E. Santana, I'd trade McCarthy to TB in less than a heart beat or a blink.

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QUOTE(BobDylan @ Nov 17, 2006 -> 03:29 PM)
If the Sox got E. Santana, I'd trade McCarthy to TB in less than a heart beat or a blink.

 

The interesting thing is that we've really heard no recent rumors about who we're looking for to fill the LF position. BTW, Roberts is asking for 3/15.

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QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 17, 2006 -> 09:30 AM)
The interesting thing is that we've really heard no recent rumors about who we're looking for to fill the LF position. BTW, Roberts is asking for 3/15.

 

Based on KW's history rumors are worthless. Based on that, I reply in these threads for pure entertainment.

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QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Nov 17, 2006 -> 09:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Outside of facing us wasn't Santana a little down last year as oppossed to the previuos year? I could be wrong but I thought he tappered off, again not agaisnt us.

For one he's absolutely brutal pitching away from Anaheim Stadium.

 

I thought about the Angels as a partner for Freddy. He always pitches well against them.

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QUOTE(BobDylan @ Nov 17, 2006 -> 09:32 AM)
Based on KW's history rumors are worthless. Based on that, I reply in these threads for pure entertainment.

Jim Thome's name was bantered about around Thanksgiving of last year. Sometimes rumors like these do have legs.

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QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 17, 2006 -> 09:34 AM)
Jim Thome's name was bantered about around Thanksgiving of last year. Sometimes rumors like these do have legs.

 

This is true. But the percentages around here aren't good. This place goes MAD sometimes...just look at the boards now.

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