maggsmaggs Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 1. Sweeney 2. Fields 3. Broadway 4. McCulloch 5. Haeger 6. Cunningham 7. Russell 8. Harrell 9. Long 10. Carter Not to much depth there. We have some nice pitching depth coming along, but none of them profile as more than mid rotation guys. Good topic for discussion, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 My List... http://www.southsidesox.com/story/2006/11/12/15543/984 Pretty close. I left off Russell (his only discernable skill is being tall. ceiling is probably Jon Rauch, middle reliever) and Long (he was terrible in his debut. If Rogers was looking for relievers, why he didn't include the respectable Omogrosso or the freaking amazing Oneli Perez is beyond me) Rogers missed the boat on Egbert, who can get by without elite stuff. 2 HR in 160IP is pretty amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Omogrosso....gonna be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Goddamit Gage, I told you about Egbert and set up the Omogrosso interview. Trust me more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 worst sox top 10 I can remember two 2006 draftees, a sure sign of trouble in the soft system. We need to improve our scouting. It's fallen badly in last four or five years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ Nov 20, 2006 -> 07:40 PM) worst sox top 10 I can remember two 2006 draftees, a sure sign of trouble in the soft system. We need to improve our scouting. It's fallen badly in last four or five years. That's not that uncommon to have two recent draft picks in the Top 10. I am pretty sure when Anderson and Sweeney were drafted, they were in the top 10. Not to mention the years we had multiple first round picks, there were definately some recent draft picks in the top 10. The bad thing is we don't have a front-line starter in the system or a sure-fire all-star type offensive player. Fields and Sweeney are good, but both have significant weaknesses, something Chris Young didnt have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Nov 20, 2006 -> 07:51 PM) Fields and Sweeney are good, but both have significant weaknesses, something Chris Young didnt have. Young did have a significant weakness when he was traded, his strikeout rate. He's since corrected that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Nov 20, 2006 -> 08:05 PM) Young did have a significant weakness when he was traded, his strikeout rate. He's since corrected that though. That remians to be seen. I'm not yet convinved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 BA chose to put Matt Long in the top 10??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 QUOTE(danman31 @ Nov 20, 2006 -> 09:19 PM) BA chose to put Matt Long in the top 10??? It's not so much BA as Phil Rogers. For some reason, the White Sox (Cubs and Rockies?) are the only teams that they don't have their own writers do the lists for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Nov 20, 2006 -> 10:02 PM) It's not so much BA as Phil Rogers. For some reason, the White Sox (Cubs and Rockies?) are the only teams that they don't have their own writers do the lists for. I believe callis does everything for the Cubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 bottom line is our first round picks who should now be in the bigs -- Borchard, Ring, Anderson -- have been underwhelming. and our last two drafts have been particularly bad. our system is going the wrong direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 as bad as it is now, the mid to late 80s were worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Hatchetman @ Nov 21, 2006 -> 01:16 PM) as bad as it is now, the mid to late 80s were worse. Himes made up for it with McDowell in 1987, thank you Cubs for taking Harkey the guy the Sox really wanted, Ventura in 1988, Thomas in 1989, thank you Phillies for taking Jeff Jackson, the guy the Sox really wanted, and Fernandez in 1990. A pretty incredible streak. He also got a couple of decent players in later rounds like Ray Durham. I think Himes also got Jason Bere in the 36th round. JR couldn't stand him(Himes) personally so he was shown the door. The late 80's weren't bad. Not a lot of quantity but plenty of quality. Taking Kurt Brown in 1985 when Barry Bonds was still on the board was not something Roland Hemond or his scouts would put on their resumes. Edited November 21, 2006 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Nov 21, 2006 -> 01:56 PM) Himes made up for it with McDowell in 1987, thank you Cubs for taking Harkey the guy the Sox really wanted, Ventura in 1988, Thomas in 1989, thank you Phillies for taking Jeff Jackson, the guy the Sox really wanted, and Fernandez in 1990. A pretty incredible streak. He also got a couple of decent players in later rounds like Ray Durham. I think Himes also got Jason Bere in the 36th round. JR couldn't stand him(Himes) personally so he was shown the door. The late 80's weren't bad. Not a lot of quantity but plenty of quality. Taking Kurt Brown in 1985 when Barry Bonds was still on the board was not something Roland Hemond or his scouts would put on their resumes. He wasn't alone. Most people didn't like him. He was really good at player evaluation just not a "people" person. Is that PC enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHAMBARONS Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Nov 20, 2006 -> 07:05 PM) Young did have a significant weakness when he was traded, his strikeout rate. He's since corrected that though. He stopped swinging at those 0-2 breaking pitches in the dirt. Chris also cut down on his swing when behind in the counts which he struggled with last year. Now his K/BB rate is 52/71. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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