fathom Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 (edited) Nightmare offseason checklist: - Bring back Pods - Bring back Sandy - Trade one of our starters for Rowand Edited December 5, 2006 by fathom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 We still have time to get Timo back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 The rangers want a cheap CFer. They've inquired about Rowand and Anderson. Should we hold both Rowand and Anderson, we could strike a deal from a position of strength. /Say no to Rowand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 You never know is all one can say about rumors, but what really are the Sox gaining here? We trade a proven #1 or #2 starter for a good CF'er while we have 3 potential CF'ers iun waiting? We aren't trading from strength and adding what we need. What we need is top tier bullpen help. I luv A-Row abd maybe the team chemistry improves with him back, but this doesn't really make a lot of sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 04:09 PM) We still have time to get Timo back. How's about Willie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Felix, On Rowand's best day in the outfield, he doesn't have Anderson's range. Not even close. Nor the arm. If there were ever a scenario in which they were in the same outfield, there's no way in hell Anderson would be in left. They are not a "push" defensively by any stretch of the imagination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitlesswonder Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 04:06 PM) Nightmare offseason checklist: - Bring back Pods - Bring back Sandy - Trade one of our starters for Rowand Wow -- we have the same list. Actually, the last line on mine is " Trade one of our starters for Rowand or trade one of our starters for a middle reliever and a LOOGY" I can't decide which deal I like less the Rowand one, or the starter for Yankee relief pitching one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 An 18 game winner for a 4th outfielder is not a good deal. I am hoping this is where the talk starts with the Phils and ends with Rollins, Lieber, Floyd and Rowand for Garcia, Uribe and Aardesma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Rollins and Madson would be the ONLY way I would be interested in a Phillies deal. Just say no to Aaron Rowand. We can better, a lot better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Why trade for Rowand when, after another crappy season, he'll be begging for us to sign him to be our 4th outfielder? I think we can survive another season without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 04:12 PM) An 18 game winner for a 4th outfielder is not a good deal. I am hoping this is where the talk starts with the Phils and ends with Rollins, Lieber, Floyd and Rowand for Garcia, Uribe and Aardesma. Are you serious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 that trade would suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty22hotty Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 NOOOOOOOOOoooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 (edited) I really don't understand our interest in Rowand. I think Sweeney and Anderson are both better than he is in CF. Plus Rowand was no great shakes in the lineup, so what is the big deal? How does he help our team get better? FLoyd and Madson do absolutely nothing for me. We have no use for either one. Floyd has been in the majors twice and has wet his pants both times. Madson is nothing at all. He may be a decent bullpen guy if anything, but a 4th OF'er and a decent relief pitcher is not what I want to get in return for a top notch starter. That is just ridiculous. Jimmy Rollins is where the conversation should start. If they are unwilling to part with him then hang up the freakin' phone. We don't need anything else that the phillies have to offer. I take that back - Cole Hamels would be a nice addition as well. Either one of those 2 guys is where the conversation should start.Then go from there. Edited December 5, 2006 by southsideirish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 3 weeks ago Bruce Levine said "it wasn't going to happen" because the Sox view him as a 4th OF. If the Sox really wanted Rowand, why did they bring back Pods? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kane0730 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 This trade smells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 I am not in favor of Rowand coming back time to move on, there has to be a better deal than this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 I think someone needs to go all Tonya Harding on Aaron Rowand. Or we could just put a fence like 30 m. in front of Aaron and tell him to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox72 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 In a word, Kenny.... NO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangar18 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 04:12 PM) Rollins, Lieber, Floyd and Rowand for Garcia, Uribe and Aardesma. There you go ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank the Tank 35 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 (edited) Hopefully this is a case of a misinterpretted, fuzzy phonecall. :crinkle fuzz: Rowllinzand Madson :crinkle pop: -Levine on the other end: "Oh, of course! Rowand and Madson! Naturally, I've been saying it all along!" Edited December 5, 2006 by Frank the Tank 35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Philips Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 04:29 PM) I think someone needs to go all Tonya Harding on Aaron Rowand. Or we could just put a fence like 30 m. in front of Aaron and tell him to go. We don't need Rowand.. The other two Madson and Floyd are not anything intriguing. Why not get Burrell. Walker will get his RISP up from 221. Why give away GARCIA... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 03:52 PM) The Phils don't have the prospects I'd want to make this deal plausible. If somehow we got Rollins instead of Rowand than I'd listen and be quite interested. Both Madsen and Floyd are relatively talented but neither can be considered top prospects at this point anymore, imo. I don't want Rowand, and combine that with the fact that Philly's farm system is pretty bare. Gio is really the only prospect I'm interested in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank the Tank 35 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Philly fans are all over this rumor. There is even a general consensus that Rowand + one of those pitchers is not enough to get it done. That can only mean this trade is utterly bogus. Can someone say posturing the Phils against the Mets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Living in the Philly area, I can tell you a few things. Number 1, Gavin Floyd is a bust. The Phils are trying talk him up to salvage his value. He was brutal this past season and sent down once they brought up Hamels. Number 2, Ryan Madson is no bullpen savior. I'd rather have Riske and others over him. He is still very sour over losing a potiental starting rotation spot to Hamels, and then again when they acquired Jamie Moyer. Third and finally, Jimmy Rollins is OVERRATED. He is not a very good lead off hitter. Many people in Philly would be happier if he batted 6th in the lineup. He doesn't do the lead off things like clucth hitting or situational hitter. He'd rather be a guy that goes for the long ball before beating a bunt out. His stolen base ratio is spotty because he doesn't run as much as he should and he ran all over the poor pitching in the AL. Overall, I would stay far away from a deal with the Phillies. I wouldn't give up much, if anything really for Rowand because he is going to be replaced in Philly with Shane Victoriano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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