tpezz27 Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Per Rotoworld.... White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said Ron Mackowiak wouldn't play any center field next season. Mackowiak rarely played anywhere but center last season, as Guillen chose to go with Alex Cintron whenever an infielder needed a day off. Mackowiak make 62 starts in the field last season and 51 came in center. Nine of the remaining 11 came in the outfield corners. Guillen has a history of saying things in the offseason and then changing his mind once the games begin to count. He has the right idea now -- Mackowiak is a far better choice at third and the outfield corners than he is in center -- but old habits are hard to break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb...sp&c_id=cws Good piece. Lots of Ozzie quotes. And he's considering Iguchi for leadoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 yeeeeeeessssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That being said I wouldn't be suprised if Mack plays a lot of center if BA struggles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Best news of the offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 (edited) Thank god. "Give me all righties, as long as they're good. Give me all lefties, as long as they're good," Guillen said. "I don't want to have a lefty just to have a lefty. Ok Ozzie. Edited December 6, 2006 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 7 months too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 (edited) Wow...how f***ing long does it take? Ray Charles could have seen this last May. Edited December 6, 2006 by WHarris1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Iguchi for leadoff? But... but... but... he's a #6 hitter!!!! Noo!!!! They can't think about doing that, nooooo00000!!!! -------------------------------------------- The Mets still make a lot of sense, as everyone knows, especially if they don't nab Zito. Apparently the Giants are making a push for Zito; I hope they grab him, as nothing from San Fran and the Sox aren't a fit to make a trade. But back to the Mets. If it's Garcia who's going, I want Milledge + Heilman. If it's either Vazquez or Buehrle, Humber or Pelfrey have to be included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Perhaps it just took 4 years for Ozzie to become a competent manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 10:58 PM) Perhaps it just took 4 years for Ozzie to become a competent manager. No kidding. I do find it encouraging that he may be learning from his mistakes. I'm still angry about his stubborn moves last year that were obvious to Soxtalk. I hope Lovie Smith doesn't let his stubbornness cost the Bears in the post season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 So Luis Terrero is in a pretty good position to make the 25 man roster now possibly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 11:22 PM) So Luis Terrero is in a pretty good position to make the 25 man roster now possibly? not until Pods is gone. I'm counting 25 without terrero. 5 starters. 6 relievers. 2 catchers. Infield of Gload, Kong, Iguchi, Cintron (not signed yet though, could be gone), Uribe, Crede, Ozuna, Thome -- That's 8 Outfield of Mack, Dye, Anderson, Pods (4) That's 25. Somebody's got to go for terrero to make the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 I certainly think there's 2 possible scenarios to help Terrero make the ballclub; Pods is moved for prospects or a backup catcher, with Iguchi the new leadoff hitter. OR Cintron or Ozuna is traded, to help open up more playing time on the infield for Mack. Or Mack could be moved himself, because if he's not going to play CF, then unless he's a platoon partner at say LF, it's going to be hard to get him enough AB's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoota Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 QUOTE(tpezz27 @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 10:40 PM) Per Rotoworld.... White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said Ron Mackowiak wouldn't play any center field next season. Mackowiak rarely played anywhere but center last season, as Guillen chose to go with Alex Cintron whenever an infielder needed a day off. Mackowiak make 62 starts in the field last season and 51 came in center. Nine of the remaining 11 came in the outfield corners. Guillen has a history of saying things in the offseason and then changing his mind once the games begin to count. He has the right idea now -- Mackowiak is a far better choice at third and the outfield corners than he is in center -- but old habits are hard to break. The fact that Ozzie admits Mack is a poor choice in center indicates what we've been speculating for months, that Ozzie knew Anderson in center is the best option he had, yet he let personal bias trump what was best for the team's success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Well if it only took him this long to learn from this mistake, hopefully any day now he will learn when to pull a pitcher when they're gassed and how to properly manage a bull pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 If terrero makes the roster we will have trouble next season. Thankfully, he won't come close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 I like Mackowiak, but I'd look into moving him to the Brewers for Miller to solve our backup catcher hole. I do not know how that would fit, but the salaries are similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Ozzie can't fool Jordan4life. Mack will be out there unless we trade for another CF. QUOTE(103 mph screwball @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 11:41 PM) I like Mackowiak, but I'd look into moving him to the Brewers for Miller to solve our backup catcher hole. I do not know how that would fit, but the salaries are similar. Mack for Miller? No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 QUOTE(shoota @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 05:36 AM) The fact that Ozzie admits Mack is a poor choice in center indicates what we've been speculating for months, that Ozzie knew Anderson in center is the best option he had, yet he let personal bias trump what was best for the team's success. Or he let the offense outweigh the defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoota Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 QUOTE(SEALgep @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 11:45 PM) Or he let the offense outweigh the defense. There was a long stretch in the second half when Anderson was the better offensive player than Mack. Surely you remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 QUOTE(shoota @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 11:47 PM) There was a long stretch in the second half when Anderson was the better offensive player than Mack. Surely you remember. I'm startin' to like you Shoota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 11:42 PM) Ozzie can't fool Jordan4life. Mack will be out there unless we trade for another CF. Mack for Miller? No thanks. I've heard good things about Miller and handling a pitching staff. Regardless, Mack is starting to look like an expensive player that could be replaced with Sweeney or a cheaper backup outfielder with better D. He's a grinder and I'd hate to see him go, but exploring a trade makes sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Why do people insist on also rushing sweeney to the majors? I find that thought disgusting actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(103 mph screwball @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 12:11 AM) I've heard good things about Miller and handling a pitching staff. Regardless, Mack is starting to look like an expensive player that could be replaced with Sweeney or a cheaper backup outfielder with better D. He's a grinder and I'd hate to see him go, but exploring a trade makes sense to me. Good points. I just don't think I would trade a player as good as Mack for a guy that wouldn't play anymore than 2 days a week. QUOTE(qwerty @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 12:13 AM) Why do people insist on also rushing sweeney to the majors? I find that thought disgusting actually. Same here. I can't remember the last time a White Sox prospect produced right away. Edited December 6, 2006 by Jordan4life_2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 QUOTE(shoota @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 12:36 AM) The fact that Ozzie admits Mack is a poor choice in center indicates what we've been speculating for months, that Ozzie knew Anderson in center is the best option he had, yet he let personal bias trump what was best for the team's success. This guy's good^^^ Ozzie clearly let's personal bias take precedence over what is best for the team. It's obvious in the way he twists what McCarthy says to reporters. B-Mac says that he'd be more useful in the rotation than he'd be in the bullpen, and Ozzie says McCarthy is demanding that he start. Ozzie's basically just a douchebag that wants his way or the highway, but he's a douchebag that's won a WS, so I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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