daa84 Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 09:36 PM) So is Gio the new Gary Majewski? antonio osuna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Wow... im kind of glad Freddy is gone even if his fastball returns but yeah I thought we could do better than Gavin Floyd and Gio Gonzalez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 09:36 PM) So it's basically Gio being substituted for Rowand. I don't really see how this makes a lot of sense UNLESS, these 2 are then flipped to the D-Rays for say Carl Crawford or Rocco Baldelli. It's nice to have Gio back in the organization though for the moment because I rate him highly. We are either doing something with that cash, or flipping both of these guys somewhere. This cant be the deal. This doesnt help us this year at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 03:36 AM) So it's basically Gio being substituted for Rowand. I don't really see how this makes a lot of sense UNLESS, these 2 are then flipped to the D-Rays for say Carl Crawford or Rocco Baldelli. It's nice to have Gio back in the organization though for the moment because I rate him highly. Tampa wanted McCarthy for Rocco, and they're not trading Crawford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxpranos Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 (edited) Could one or both go to the Yankees for A- Rod is some kind of package deal? Edited December 7, 2006 by Soxpranos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 QUOTE(Soxpranos @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 09:37 PM) Could one or both go to the Yankees for A- Rod? id be willing to bet that one of these guys is dealt for something else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 QUOTE(daa84 @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 03:35 AM) a few things.....this saves us 10 million, and floyd and gio become our #1 and #2 pitching prospects, but i think we coulda more...like a major league ready reliever....but to me this trade reeks of more trades to come....williams acquiring young pitching to trade for other parts Gavin Floyd is 23 years old and is no longer considered a top prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 02:35 PM) Quick scouting report on Floyd: On a good day, Floyd has a 94 mph fastball and a hard-breaking, 12-to-6 curveball. On a bad day, he tightens up and loses velocity on his fastball and bite on his curveball KW must think that Coop can obvioiusly fix him, and get him back to the level that made him a serious stud prospect about 2 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 09:37 PM) Tampa wanted McCarthy for Rocco, and they're not trading Crawford. Floyd at one time was thought to have the stuff to be a number 1 starter, and Gio has the ability as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 09:38 PM) Gavin Floyd is 23 years old and is no longer considered a top prospect. so is mccarthy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Comcast just said Rowand is involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxpranos Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Just heard Rowand is in that deal as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmbjeff Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 so gio and floyd are to be traded to tampa for crawford? i mean what else could happen....its gotta be two young pitching prospects goin somewhere else who needs it, right???????? im so confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Tom Dore, of all people, just said that Aaron Rowand is in the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 09:40 PM) Comcast just said Rowand is involved. Oh s***, so we just got Rowand, Gio and Floyd for Garcia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbeFroman Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 QUOTE(daa84 @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 09:39 PM) so is mccarthy.... so true... nice post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 02:37 PM) Tampa wanted McCarthy for Rocco, and they're not trading Crawford. Tampa is after young pitching, and Gio is pretty much very similar to B-Mac in terms of overall talent level. Unless they get a better offer from elsewhere for either, I still think something could get done here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox72 Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 I just threw up on myself..... This better turn into something/someone better, or else Kenny got some 'splainin to do.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhillegas Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 there has to be another deal on the horizon. i cant believe that we are willing to just concede a starter and then say that we can compete in the 2nd best division in baseball this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxpranos Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Great, more threads on how great Rowand is ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 I'm not terribly dissappointed with this deal. If either of these guys ever figure it out, they're going to be real good. Gotta harness some control, we're getting twelve years of these two + $10 million for one year of Freddy. It's a letdown from the Pelfrey/Milledge rumors, but I don't find it that terrible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxman72 Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 I am going to be calm and wait to see if there is another move coming. If not - This is worse than the Kip Wells to Pittsburgh trade. I would love to be in the meeting where everyone on Kenny's team found out this is all they could get for Freddy. This makes me sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 02:40 PM) Oh s***, so we just got Rowand, Gio and Floyd for Garcia? Ok now I'm liking this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 09:41 PM) Tampa is after young pitching, and Gio is pretty much very similar to B-Mac in terms of overall talent level. Unless they get a better offer from elsewhere for either, I still think something could get done here. Thats what im thinking DB. We didnt have the top spects to make a deal before, now we just got two nice ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 03:41 AM) I'm not terribly dissappointed with this deal. If either of these guys ever figure it out, they're going to be real good. Gotta harness some control, we're getting twelve years of these two + $10 million for one year of Freddy. It's a letdown from the Pelfrey/Milledge rumors, but I don't find it that terrible... Pelfrey was never on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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