sayitaintso Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 (edited) can a mod or admin or someone change to subtopic thing to possibility of the bulls being involved or something like that. Thanks. per rotoworld Iverson to the Warriors? The New York Daily News is reporting that a three-team deal involving the Bulls and Warriors may be a possibility for a trade of Allen Iverson. The Warriors would possibly send power forward Troy Murphy or point guard Baron Davis to Chicago as part of a package of players, while the Sixers would get Ben Gordon. The Bulls reportedly don't want Iverson as they fear he and Scott Skiles would clash, which makes sense. Other Bulls mentioned going to Philly in a potential deal have been P.J. Brown and ex-Knick Michael Sweetney, each in the final year of his contract. Interestingly, Troy Murphy is not playing for the Warriors on Tuesday night, giving this rumor some extra intrigue. Dec. 12 - 11:18 pm et There was something mentioned about it in the NBA discussion thread, but i figured that this deserves its own thread. I don't want the bulls to trade ben gordon at all, i don't mind if they got rid of sweetney or brown, just not gordon, he's my boy. Edited December 13, 2006 by sayitaintso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Wow, Davis or Murphy for only Gordon? How does this work salary wise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Baron Davis=yuck, but I wouldn't mind getting a big like Murphy and getting Gordon out of town. We'll see though, I had a funny feeling the Bulls might jump into this fray. I know Pax really likes Murphy though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Almost a done deal? This post should be deleted. What a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trad...teams=20~20~4~9 Fun ESPN trade calculator Davis to Chi, Iverson to GS, Brown, Gordon to Phi. Works moneywise, but AI would never agree to go to GS and Phi deserves to get more in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 QUOTE(knightni @ Dec 13, 2006 -> 02:09 AM) http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trad...teams=20~20~4~9 Fun ESPN trade calculator Davis to Chi, Iverson to GS, Brown, Gordon to Phi. Works moneywise, but AI would never agree to go to GS and Phi deserves to get more in return. Philly deserves more, but they are desperate, so they won't get what they deserve. As for GS....are you kidding me? The Bay Area is a big market, and Iverson would get 30 shots a game easily in the Don Nelson offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 The Bulls have to consider it from this point of view. The area they most need to upgrade is PF, everybody knows that. They need a low post scorer. Do you trade a guy in Ben Gordon who could be nothing more than a 6th man specialist in his career (I have serious doubts still he's ever going to make it as a starter) for a Troy Murphy, who's shown flashes of decentness, OR, do you hang Gordon and try to draft a PF in the draft if you miss out on Oden? What about trading Murphy for Gordon and then drafting a SG to replace Gordon in the draft? The N.Y Daily News is also throwing up the possibility of Davis and Biedrins for Iverson and Steven Hunter. If I'm Golden State, I keep Biedrins, don't want Hunter, and make it Patrick O' Bryant and Baron Davis for Iverson. Move Baron while he's hot and has value, because he's not a very good team player and extremely injury prone. At least Iverson plays through his injuries even if he's a ballhog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 I'd want Richardson if I am dealing with Golden State. Biedrins is a pretty damn solid player as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 06:26 AM) I'd want Richardson if I am dealing with Golden State. Biedrins is a pretty damn solid player as well. Richardson's coming off knee surgery though, so he'd certainly be a risk. I think if the Warriors could get rid of either Davis or Richardson for Iverson, without giving up much else, they'd do it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 13, 2006 -> 06:21 AM) Do you trade a guy in Ben Gordon who could be nothing more than a 6th man specialist in his career (I have serious doubts still he's ever going to make it as a starter) for a Troy Murphy, who's shown flashes of decentness, OR, do you hang Gordon and try to draft a PF in the draft if you miss out on Oden? That's my problem here. Gordon won't be anything more than a 6th man specialist shooter in his career, but I don't know if I'd want Murphy either, since he's inconsistent and this draft will be as loaded with bigs as any in history. Plus, I wouldn't want Davis (oft injured ballhog) either, although I'd take a flyer on J Rich, even with the knee. Edited December 14, 2006 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 We've got a great discussion going on at TalkBulls about AI, you guys should hop over there and check it out... http://www.talkbulls.com/forums/index.php?...c=1351&st=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 (edited) Scoop Jackson wrote an insulting article basically saying A.I. hasn't been traded yet because he's too black for Utah, Minnesota, Milwaukee, and Indianapolis since those cities aren't urban enough. What an absolute moron, apparently he missed the memo on the popularity of Kevin Garnett, Karl Malone, Michael Redd, and Reggie Miller in those markets. Oh wait, I guess they aren't true thugs like "The Answer". Somebody needs to put Scoop and Micheal Irvin onto the proverbial slow boat to China, it's a disgrace that black people can be blatant racists and nobody says a word, but white people are on 24/7 watch. Edited December 14, 2006 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 03:15 AM) Scoop Jackson wrote an insulting article basically saying A.I. hasn't been traded yet because he's too black for Utah, Minnesota, Milwaukee, and Indianapolis since those cities aren't urban enough. What an absolute moron, apparently he missed the memo on the popularity of Kevin Garnett, Karl Malone, Michael Redd, and Reggie Miller in those markets. Oh wait, I guess they aren't true thugs like "The Answer". As much as I dislike Scoop Jackson, they're not at all like Iverson. Also, you forgot Alvin Robertson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Ben Gordon may never be more than a 6th man off the bench.... but if that 6th man can avg. near 20 points a game ill take it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 05:23 AM) Ben Gordon may never be more than a 6th man off the bench.... but if that 6th man can avg. near 20 points a game ill take it... The problem... He has Iverson's size but not his defensive tenacity. Also by now, he should be starting but he is too one-dimensional to trust fulltime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 All of Scoop Jackson's articles are race related. I can't even read them anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Dec 13, 2006 -> 10:03 PM) That's my problem here. Gordon won't be anything more than a 6th man specialist shooter in his career Somehow that 6th man gives you 20 points a game though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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