harfman77 Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Since we know Garland was almost on a plane to Houston and Crede has been shopped and will be until he is signed; coupled with the fact that KW has been rumored to be all over ARod, here is my baseless trade of pure speculation. Garland, Broadway and Crede for Arod, Cabrera and Hughes. Trading Garland effectively dumps $20 mil from last years salary with Freddy being dealt so Arod would cost another 5. Cabrera I thought was impressive as a rookie last season is a switch hitter who could our every day left fielder after coming up as a centerfielder. Hughes would be a prospect that Kenny has said he wants back in any trade of a starter, though he is probably two years away instead of one. I know that opens the fifth starter slot, but I see that as a good thing. It allows our young guys - Haeger, Floyd, Phillips, Gonzalez, Broadway or even Tracey an opportunity to get experience and be ready to move into the rotation in the event of another starter getting injured or leaving via trade or free agency. Could add some of those pieces to the trade to add Humberto Sanchez and use him as the fifth starter. I think the Skanks would probably do it if we took all of Arods contract. Just a thought cause I am bored waiting for something to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkmoney Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 So.. how do we get Arod to agree to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 14, 2006 Author Share Posted December 14, 2006 QUOTE(bkmoney @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 04:14 PM) So.. how do we get Arod to agree to this. Tell him he doesnt have to play in NY anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 That trade is WAY one sided. Come on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike12345 Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 It's good idea, but I just never see ARod leaving New York. ARod is probably the best player in baseball, but his expectations are too unreal. Hughes is the one prospect the Yankees refuse to trade, and Garland will never be a number 1 or 2 pitcher. He's a solid 3. Hughes projects to be a 1 or 2 starter. Plus the Yankees dont want to take on Crede and his messed up back. I'm all for this trade, but ARod is not leaving town anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 And then our starting is Contreras, Buehrle. Vaz BMac. And Hughes? Or Haeger? dunno how that would work. Counting on two rookies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 10:19 PM) That trade is WAY one sided. Come on. I don't even know if the Yanks would give up Cabrera and Hughes for our 3 guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 04:21 PM) I don't even know if the Yanks would give up Cabrera and Hughes for our 3 guys. There is not a chance the Yankees include Hughes. I doubt they would move him for anyone outside of maybe 5 players in the entire league, and neither Garland, nor Crede, nor Broadway are one of them. Additionally, keep in mind that ARod's contract is no longer considered outrageous. Sixteen million per for him is a bargain right now. I am fairly certain that most possible scenarios were discussed at the Winter Meetings, and if a match was possible, it would have happened there. Edited December 14, 2006 by iamshack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 02:21 PM) dunno how that would work. Counting on two rookies BMac is not a rookie first of all, and Hughes is either basically ready for the big leagues or will be within a couple months. It's not a bad thing to have youth in your rotation if it is the right youth, and those two would be beautiful. But yeah, the Yankees wouldn't do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 14, 2006 Author Share Posted December 14, 2006 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 04:27 PM) BMac is not a rookie first of all, and Hughes is either basically ready for the big leagues or will be within a couple months. It's not a bad thing to have youth in your rotation if it is the right youth, and those two would be beautiful. But yeah, the Yankees wouldn't do that. What about Sanchez instead of Hughes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 QUOTE(IowaSoxFan @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 02:30 PM) What about Sanchez instead of Hughes? If the White Sox were willing to take on ARod's entire contract, and ARod requested/demanded a trade behind the scenes, I could see that as a possibility, but that's only if the Yankees have been told that ARod is leaving and no one else offers anything better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 I'd rather get Jeter and not give up Crede. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 wow, the yankees would be getting hosed on that deal. Their top pitching spec, one of the best players in baseball, and a serviceable OF for a pretty good starter, a good defensive 3B with back problems and a nothing prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 15, 2006 -> 10:13 AM) and a nothing prospect. I wouldn't call Broadway a "nothing" prospect, but there's no way the Yankees would do this. There was speculation a week ago that they wouldn't even trade Sanchez straight up for Mark Buehrle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leagalize13 Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Yeah, the Spankies love Hughs so much that I'd doubt they would him trade straight-up for JG. The kid is only 20 and tearing up the minors. With a good season in AAA he will probably be the 5th starter in 08. Cashman has already said he could get called up some time in 07. Thats how high they are on Hughes. I like the idea though and would make that trade in a second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHITESOXRANDY Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 QUOTE(IowaSoxFan @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Since we know Garland was almost on a plane to Houston and Crede has been shopped and will be until he is signed; coupled with the fact that KW has been rumored to be all over ARod, here is my baseless trade of pure speculation. Garland, Broadway and Crede for Arod, Cabrera and Hughes. Trading Garland effectively dumps $20 mil from last years salary with Freddy being dealt so Arod would cost another 5. Cabrera I thought was impressive as a rookie last season is a switch hitter who could our every day left fielder after coming up as a centerfielder. Hughes would be a prospect that Kenny has said he wants back in any trade of a starter, though he is probably two years away instead of one. I know that opens the fifth starter slot, but I see that as a good thing. It allows our young guys - Haeger, Floyd, Phillips, Gonzalez, Broadway or even Tracey an opportunity to get experience and be ready to move into the rotation in the event of another starter getting injured or leaving via trade or free agency. Could add some of those pieces to the trade to add Humberto Sanchez and use him as the fifth starter. I think the Skanks would probably do it if we took all of Arods contract. Just a thought cause I am bored waiting for something to happen. If you can make this deal happen, I'll buy you season tickets. Hughes is THE # 1 pitching prospect in all of baseball. The Sox might get him alone for Crede and Garland. My guess is to get AROD, Cabrera and Hughes from the Yankees the Sox would have to offer up something like Crede, Garland, Vazquez, Sweeney and Haeger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 05:17 PM) I wouldn't call Broadway a "nothing" prospect I would, his only value is to us at this point. He isnt one of our top three, he doesnt have great stuff and he isnt major league ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian26 Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 QUOTE(IowaSoxFan @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Garland, Broadway and Crede for Arod, Cabrera and Hughes. That's insane. You'd be lucky to get ARod for that package, let alone Hughes and Cabrera being thrown in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Let's give Buehrle to St. Louis for Pujols Wainright and Eckstein. Oh, they can have Broadway, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 15, 2006 -> 12:42 PM) I would, his only value is to us at this point. He isnt one of our top three, he doesnt have great stuff and he isnt major league ready. I'd rate Gio ahead of him, but then it's probably a toss up b/w him McCullough and possibly Floyd as to who's our 2nd best SP spect (where's Tyler Lumsden when you need him). Personally I think he'll be a #3-#4 starter at the major league level, which if he hit FA this off-season, would get you Jason Marquis type of money as a minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Hughes = Untouchable Garland, Crede and Broadway will get you ARod (if he approves) and maybe Sal Fasano (backup catcher...aka FAT BACKSTOP). QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 08:42 PM) I would, his only value is to us at this point. He isnt one of our top three, he doesnt have great stuff and he isnt major league ready. Caesar Carillo would have been nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 05:13 PM) wow, the yankees would be getting hosed on that deal. Their top pitching spec, one of the best players in baseball, and a serviceable OF for a pretty good starter, a good defensive 3B with back problems and a nothing prospect. everyone from dpbl knows that hughes will have a 25-4 record come 2014. I think it's a good deal for the sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leagalize13 Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 QUOTE(rangercal @ Dec 15, 2006 -> 02:54 AM) everyone from dpbl knows that hughes will have a 25-4 record come 2014. I think it's a good deal for the sox. That would be a phenominal deal for the Sox. It's a shame theres no chance in hell that it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 i think a-rod is a great player. In fact one of the all-time greats. However, can we please stop these A-Rod rumors. he isnt going anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baines3 Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 I will believe all this talk of the Sox getting A-Rod when I see it. My guess is that he will end up staying with the Yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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