103 mph screwball Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 I overreacted to the Garcia trade and with time, it has grown on me. I flipped out over the original Garland rumor that didn't involve Hirsh. I shocked by this move, but I'm going to trust that KW knows what he is doing. He really wanted Danks and Masset and there may be more to McCarthy that we do not know. The Sox sure are stacking up the arms and the offseason is not over yet. Thanks McCarthy! Wish you well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Dec 24, 2006 -> 01:17 AM) Anyone think the Sox will use the acquisition of Danks as leverage in a future drafting of his little brother? It certainly might have an impact. Other teams might shy away from him, thinking Jordan would hold out for a sox deal. You see how guys drop into the teens just because of money. No team wants to lose their 1st round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 QUOTE(Balance @ Dec 23, 2006 -> 07:17 PM) Well, it would have been Soriano for half a year, then.... Yeah, but still..it's the principal of the trade that irks me. We wouldn't trade B-Mac to the Rays for Crawford/Rocco, but we'll put our chips all-in on prospects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balance Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxin @ Dec 23, 2006 -> 07:23 PM) Yeah, but still..it's the principal of the trade that irks me. We wouldn't trade B-Mac to the Rays for Crawford/Rocco, but we'll put our chips all-in on prospects? Hey, like I said, I'm not sure what to think. But I'm glad we didn't give up Brandon for a rent-a-player. I just have to hope that these guys pan out, and in the short term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 2004 sucked... and 2007 is going to be much the same. No 5th starter. Man, it's going to be ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxin @ Dec 23, 2006 -> 07:23 PM) Yeah, but still..it's the principal of the trade that irks me. We wouldn't trade B-Mac to the Rays for Crawford/Rocco, but we'll put our chips all-in on prospects? What makes you so sure that Crawford/Rocco were available for Brandon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Dec 23, 2006 -> 07:33 PM) 2004 sucked... and 2007 is going to be much the same. No 5th starter. Man, it's going to be ugly. Man with that crystal ball seeing into the future, can you tell me the address of where I should look for my new apartment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Is the object for KW to get as many 300,000 a yr starters in the rotation, I hope there is a plan B because with attendance great last year the message I am getting is so what and let our free agent to be starters go because JR doesn't want to pay for success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Dec 23, 2006 -> 07:42 PM) Man with that crystal ball seeing into the future, can you tell me the address of where I should look for my new apartment? Well my only question is who now is our 5th starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Haeger should be our new fifth starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 QUOTE(spiderman @ Dec 23, 2006 -> 06:20 PM) Danks split last season between Double-A Frisco and Triple-A Oklahoma, where he combined to go 9-9 with a 4.24 ERA in 27 games (26 starts). He has a career minor league record of 21-30 with a 4.20 ERA in 92 games (82 starts). Question: Did Danks pitch in pitcher friendly parks ??? The PCL parks are hitter friendly, and the California league parks (where he pitched part of 2005). He has always been young for his league. He has gotten off to slow starts at every level, probably needs at least another half-year in AAA. I don't like this trade, but I don't think I hate it. I'm a big, big Massett fan. He could be a real solid reliever for us this year. I'm not looking forward to the possible fifth starter merry go round though. And for all the people who have been complaining about are system, it's definately top 15 now, maybe even higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Dec 23, 2006 -> 07:47 PM) Haeger should be our new fifth starter. You're a gambling man, aren't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Dec 23, 2006 -> 07:45 PM) Well my only question is who now is our 5th starter. If this is March and we're asking the same question, I'll be right with you all rabbling. However, it's the evening of 12/23 so we've got a while. I'm fairly certain that something is in the works with this much time left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 According to the Sox website, Masset took BMac's spot on the 40 man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 I am. I believe in Haeger -- and besides, I'd rather have Haeger go and give everyone else more seasoning in Charlotte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Dec 23, 2006 -> 11:00 PM) I'm sure Baseball Prospectus will have a delightful twist on it as well. I assume you meant that BP would bash KW because of this deal? Quite the opposite. In fact, the past couple deals -- for Gonzalez, Floyd, Sisco, and now Danks/Masset -- has made KW a lot of fans in some 'saber-circles' (right or wrong). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Dec 23, 2006 -> 07:45 PM) Well my only question is who now is our 5th starter. Whomever wins it during spring training. Hopefully, someone will be the obvious winner and we won't have a situation where the lesser of crap is selected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Dec 23, 2006 -> 07:17 PM) Anyone think the Sox will use the acquisition of Danks as leverage in a future drafting of his little brother? Defiantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Dec 23, 2006 -> 07:50 PM) I assume you meant that BP would bash KW because of this deal? Quite the opposite. In fact, the past couple deals -- for Gonzalez, Floyd, Sisco, and now Danks/Masset -- has made KW a lot of fans in some 'saber-circles' (right or wrong). Surprised me quite a bit. Article doesn't even mention Masset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Dec 23, 2006 -> 07:50 PM) I assume you meant that BP would bash KW because of this deal? Quite the opposite. In fact, the past couple deals -- for Gonzalez, Floyd, Sisco, and now Danks/Masset -- has made KW a lot of fans in some 'saber-circles' (right or wrong). Neyer will love this deal because Haeger may well get his shot in the rotation. I dunno if anyone has mentioned this, but this basically guarantees that Mark is gone after 07'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Welcome to Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Dec 23, 2006 -> 07:49 PM) I am. I believe in Haeger -- and besides, I'd rather have Haeger go and give everyone else more seasoning in Charlotte. I think it is time for somebody to cue the Haeger fan club sig. Any members besides Pratt and me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Dec 23, 2006 -> 08:06 PM) I think it is time for somebody to cue the Haeger fan club sig. Any members besides Pratt and me? me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 I'll start the fanclub. PM me to join The Charlie Haeger for Fifth Starter! club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 this trade just pisses me off in the worst way, merry christmas sox fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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