beck72 Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 The Nationals reportedly are interested in trading closer Cordero. The article mentions the Nats interest in Boston's lower level prospects. Seeing how it wouldn't hurt the present, and the sox would be dealing from a position of stength of pitchers, why not make a play for Cordero. He'd be the perfect insurance policy in case Jenks went down. I'm not sold on MacDougal or Thornton taking over for Bobby if he got hurt. And the cost for getting a closer mid year would be astronomical. http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view...rticleid=174781 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted January 1, 2007 Author Share Posted January 1, 2007 (edited) What's interesting, looking back to talks with the Nats GM Bowden, that both Anderson and a prospect [like Lance Broadway] were mentioned as possible targets by the Wash. Post columnist in a deal for Soriano last yr. Here's the quote: "So if a deal with the White Sox is to get done quickly, and it doesn't involve McCarthy, it's possible the Nationals could be targeting an outfielder such as Brian Anderson -- a 24-year-old who is hitting just .205 with a .281 on-base percentage as the White Sox' regular center fielder -- to go along with a prospect, perhaps right-hander Lance Broadway, left-hander Ray Liotta (who has struggled this year), third baseman Josh Fields, or outfielder Ryan Sweeney." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...6072401251.html Edited January 1, 2007 by beck72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkFan81 Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Cordero is a 1 trick pony, and really not a very good one. He'd get annihilated in the AL. Keep him far away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted January 1, 2007 Author Share Posted January 1, 2007 QUOTE(U can putitontheboarrrrd...YES @ Jan 1, 2007 -> 02:39 PM) Cordero is a 1 trick pony, and really not a very good one. He'd get annihilated in the AL. Keep him far away. He's done pretty well so far in his career. And the sox could trade him to a few teams in dire need of a closer--Marlins, D-Rays. Acquiring him for extra peices could help save the sox from trading prospects the sox don't want to part with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 We do not need to trade prize prospects we paid dearly for, to get more bullpen help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 QUOTE(beck72 @ Jan 1, 2007 -> 08:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He's done pretty well so far in his career. And the sox could trade him to a few teams in dire need of a closer--Marlins, D-Rays. Acquiring him for extra peices could help save the sox from trading prospects the sox don't want to part with Think we could get Ciristian Guzman tossed in? Your post makes no sense. The Sox are going to trade non-prospects for Cordero only to trade him to other teams for valuable "extra peices?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 For as much as Brian did wrong last year, it seems like a lot of teams would still like to get their hands on him. It's almost like they think he won't continue to suck..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 If we can get Cordero in our bp to go along with Jenks, Macdougal, and Thornton.... idonno I think that would be pretty much the best bp hands down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 We have so much potential waiting in the wings now and many can help in the bullpen, if they don't make it as a starter, I just can't see why we would need Cordero. You bring in a guy like Chad and all it does is block the growth and potential of one of our youngsters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted January 1, 2007 Author Share Posted January 1, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jan 1, 2007 -> 06:53 PM) Think we could get Ciristian Guzman tossed in? Your post makes no sense. The Sox are going to trade non-prospects for Cordero only to trade him to other teams for valuable "extra peices?" I guess teams stockpiling SP's and bullpen help makes no sense--esp the market for major league pitching the way it is. I'd forsee a guy like Cordero being a big help to the sox bullpen. Yet he could also be moved [or another guy the sox have gotten in a trade, such as Aardsma] to another team who the sox could get an upgrade in the OF, or SS--if the sox didn't have to give up too much in the short term or long term. That was my point. QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jan 1, 2007 -> 08:59 PM) If we can get Cordero in our bp to go along with Jenks, Macdougal, and Thornton.... idonno I think that would be pretty much the best bp hands down. I like the looks of the sox 'pen. But it is light in proven guys after those big 3. You can never have too much pitching talent, as long as the cost isn't that steep. Edited January 1, 2007 by beck72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Only giving up Anderson and Broadway would maybe get me interested, but ATM I'll pass. At this stage, if we wanted to acquire someone for the pen, rather it'd be a lefty so it will allow for Sisco to start down at Charlotte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 he had a badass rookie season. bring him in and let coop do his thang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 No thanks on Cordero, at least that is what I expect the White Sox to say - if you've heard Kenny Williams talk about the bullpen, they are extremely excited about what's currently down there and I think he feels that the pen is a strength of the team, and they don't need to upgrade further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 No way I send Broadway/Anderson over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 The value of a decent starting pitcher > the value of a good relief pitcher. The value of a decent starting pitcher with 0 years MLB service time >> the value of a good relief pitcher with several years of service time. The value of a hopefully MLB level, solid defensive outfielder with 1 year of Service time and 1 decent starting pitching prospect with 0 years MLB service time >>> the value of a good relief pitcher with several years of service time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 at the rate we're going, Kenny will offer Dye straight up for Chad Cordero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 1, 2007 -> 09:44 PM) The value of a decent starting pitcher > the value of a good relief pitcher. The value of a decent starting pitcher with 0 years MLB service time >> the value of a good relief pitcher with several years of service time. The value of a hopefully MLB level, solid defensive outfielder with 1 year of Service time and 1 decent starting pitching prospect with 0 years MLB service time >>> the value of a good relief pitcher with several years of service time. What are you getting at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 You're trading for a setup man at closer value, which is kind of like buying a fliet mignon with the intention of grinding it into hamburger meat. Sure it would be great, but you may as well just buy the ass of the cow and get essentally the same product. If they would take just Broadway - which they won't - I'd do the deal in a heartbeat, but for the Sox, that's pretty much all they can give up. So, no, it's not going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Cordero> jenks at the end of the day. I know it is hard for many to believe someone is better than the savior bobby jenks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 1, 2007 -> 11:38 PM) Cordero> jenks at the end of the day. I know it is hard for many to believe someone is better than the savior bobby jenks. Jenks has more upside, but that's upside and not his current ability. I agree completely, but you know as well as I that Ozzie would insist on Jenks closing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Bucholz, Bowden, and Bard are "A level prospects" but you make it sound like they are horrible prospects. They all could be top 30 prospects in Baseball America in the next year. Still, if the White Sox have what it takes ala Broadway and Anderson, they should without hesitiation go after him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Bowden is the f***ing goods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jan 2, 2007 -> 12:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bulls***. I fouled tipped a ball off Bowden in 8th grade, he's got nothing. I played basketball against Scheyer. That means nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 QUOTE(redandwhite @ Jan 2, 2007 -> 12:10 AM) I played basketball against Scheyer. That means nothing. Ya, so did I. Big whoop, wanna fight about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jan 2, 2007 -> 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ya, so did I. Big whoop, wanna fight about it? Our schools already fought about it and I came out on top. Nuff' said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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