mike lals Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 QUOTE(G&T @ Jan 3, 2007 -> 09:13 AM) It's the prices that make him comfortable with what he has, and yes, I think he would have upgraded if the prices weren't ridiculous. He kept talking about flexibility and not having a giant contract keep him from competing down the line. If there's a move to make to upgrade the outfield, he will do it. He seems really happy and proud with what he has done with the pitching. Basically he's trying to create a rotation that plays in that park, which is good to hear. I do agree with him not going out and spending 40 million on a guy for 4 years who is only marginally better that Pods.Some of these contracts are ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 QUOTE(wsxkid @ Jan 3, 2007 -> 09:11 AM) A new poster here,Hello everyone.If we find a decent 5th starter I think we have a good chance to make the playoffs.I do believe our SP will rebound from last year. But if Beurles goes out and rights his ship,KW made me believe that he is gone.I was hoping to keep him and Garland around for a while to help these young arms. Welcome to Soxtalk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Nothing could make me turn on that awful program-thanks to you all that sacrafice your ears so we can hear what KW says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 (edited) I don't know what to take away from KW referring to McCarthy as "servicable" other than the impression that KW and his scouts didn't see the potential that others were seeing in BMac. I'm sure it was speculated in the massive BMac thread, but to me at least, it seems more and more like KW knows something about BMac that we dont. Then again, I could be totally wrong. Edited January 3, 2007 by KevHead0881 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 So after this, is the pitching sequence Buehrle, Contreras, Garland, Vasquez, then #5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Jan 3, 2007 -> 09:58 AM) So after this, is the pitching sequence Buehrle, Contreras, Garland, Vasquez, then #5? floyd probably has the upper hand, but i wouldnt discount haeger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balance Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Thanks for the summary, guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Did anyone actually ask about Buehrle's future here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 3, 2007 -> 04:32 PM) Did anyone actually ask about Buehrle's future here? KW implied that his salary demands are going to be huge, and they tried to sign him during last season when he struggled. When they were talking about this subject, there definitely wasn't any optimism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted January 3, 2007 Author Share Posted January 3, 2007 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 3, 2007 -> 10:32 AM) Did anyone actually ask about Buehrle's future here? Yes, and KW basically said that he is not ruling anything out. It's not that he won't sign MB, but with all his talk about contracts and years, MB would probably have to give a discount to stay and I don't see that happening. There were no mentions of trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 QUOTE(daa84 @ Jan 3, 2007 -> 04:06 PM) floyd probably has the upper hand, but i wouldnt discount haeger I would. Kenny sure seems to absolutely adore Floyd. Right or wrong, he's been talked up since the trade, almost moreso than Gio. Add in the fact that neither Pierzynski nor Hall have ever caught a knuckler for an extended period of time, and I think Floyd (as you said) has the upper hand heading into Spring Training. In fact, Floyd would have to be really bad and make no progress w/r/t his mechanics to lose the job, IMO. -------------------- On the LF/CF situation, it's a bit dissappointing to see that KW seems down on Anderson along with Ozzie. What's changed in one year? I mean, he was willing to trade a pretty good CF prospect because of his confidence in BA last year, so...? Hopefully they're the AL team who has made a decent offer to Preston Wilson. He'd be a fourth OFer, but he'd get a good chunk of playing time here; he can sub for Pods, Anderson, Dye, and even Thome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 They must see something in Floyd that not many other people saw, because they seem high on him. I like what KW has done to keep our team competitive and our payroll down, and with Gio, Danks and Sisco, we possibly could have 3 young dominant lefties in our rotation at the same time, which is kinda sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 thanks for the summarization everyone, its much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 3, 2007 -> 10:46 AM) They must see something in Floyd that not many other people saw, because they seem high on him. I like what KW has done to keep our team competitive and our payroll down, and with Gio, Danks and Sisco, we possibly could have 3 young dominant lefties in our rotation at the same time, which is kinda sweet. If the White Sox really do see something wrong with Sisco and Floyd, and have rehabbed the careers of Thornton and MacDougal, then there should be some pitching coaches fired around the league and Don Cooper better get a big ol' raise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toasty Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Jan 3, 2007 -> 11:10 AM) If the White Sox really do see something wrong with Sisco and Floyd, and have rehabbed the careers of Thornton and MacDougal, then there should be some pitching coaches fired around the league and Don Cooper better get a big ol' raise! there really wasnt anything wrong with macdougal, he was just injured.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Jan 3, 2007 -> 11:10 AM) If the White Sox really do see something wrong with Sisco and Floyd, and have rehabbed the careers of Thornton and MacDougal, then there should be some pitching coaches fired around the league and Don Cooper better get a big ol' raise! Well, the Braves had been doing it for years. You have to admit though, both teams did somewhat give up on them early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 QUOTE(toasty @ Jan 3, 2007 -> 12:12 PM) there really wasnt anything wrong with macdougal, he was just injured.... Yes. Cooper pretty much said the same thing when he was on the Score last week. He worked with Thornton but McDougal was fine when he was healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 QUOTE(heirdog @ Jan 3, 2007 -> 11:21 AM) Yes. Cooper pretty much said the same thing when he was on the Score last week. He worked with Thornton but McDougal was fine when he was healthy. He still has control issues though, and mechanics problems, but somehow is effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 QUOTE(toasty @ Jan 3, 2007 -> 09:12 AM) there really wasnt anything wrong with macdougal, he was just injured.... Which can have a lot to do with mechanics as well. One thing you should note...between Cooper and Hermy...how does our record of keeping people healthy compare with the rest of the league? Out of the starters, the only 2 who have hit the DL in the past 2 years have been the Cubans, and God only knows how old they are. They've kept Jenks healthy despite the screw in his arm, the only real bullpen injury issues seemed to be Marte and Hermanson...that's very not bad for a pitching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 3, 2007 -> 11:23 AM) Which can have a lot to do with mechanics as well. One thing you should note...between Cooper and Hermy...how does our record of keeping people healthy compare with the rest of the league? Out of the starters, the only 2 who have hit the DL in the past 2 years have been the Cubans, and God only knows how old they are. They've kept Jenks healthy despite the screw in his arm, the only real bullpen injury issues seemed to be Marte and Hermanson...that's very not bad for a pitching staff. Thanks for the jinx Balt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 3, 2007 -> 11:46 AM) I like what KW has done to keep our team competitive and our payroll down, and with Gio, Danks and Sisco, we possibly could have 3 young dominant lefties in our rotation at the same time, which is kinda sweet. I wouldn't take Carlos Vasquez (from the Cubs deal) out of this equation either...4 upside lefties with solid stuff...so even if only 2 out of the 4 pan out, we will be in good shape. I also think Aardsma and Massett will be bullpen fixtures for the Sox now and in the future (Massett can eventually take over for Jenks too if he gets hurt, out of shape, too pricey, etc.). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 3, 2007 -> 09:26 AM) Thanks for the jinx Balt. After the junk some people have pulled when our pitchers have no hitters/perfect games going... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 3, 2007 -> 11:40 AM) After the junk some people have pulled when our pitchers have no hitters/perfect games going... When Bobby's elbow explodes, we will come after you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 3, 2007 -> 09:42 AM) When Bobby's elbow explodes, we will come after you... Just because I'm the one with the dynamite, every time something explodes, people blame me! I don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Thank goodness for Coop If we still had Nardi Contreras, we'd need more elbow screws that Menards has Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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