Brian Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 ESPN Story Wow, I heard the clip on SportsCenter. Just full of hate and very nasty, but brutally honest, I guess. At first, I thought it was satire but he was dead serious. espn.com has the sound clip on the front page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 He just killed any chance he had of ever returning to television. "I hate gays so I guess I am a homophobe." wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted February 15, 2007 Author Share Posted February 15, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 14, 2007 -> 10:44 PM) He just killed any chance he had of ever returning to television. "I hate gays so I guess I am a homophobe." wow Did you hear the sound bite? It is really nasty and it just poured out. No egging on from Lebatard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 REALLY sucks for me, as he was the main reason I became a Heat fan. What a scumbag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 QUOTE(Brian @ Feb 14, 2007 -> 10:45 PM) Did you hear the sound bite? It is really nasty and it just poured out. No egging on from Lebatard. Yeah I saw it on SportsCenter, Lebatard just let Hardaway hang himself. All I remember Lebatard saying was "You know what you're saying is outright bigotry right? You sound like a homophobe." or something along those lines, Hardaway took it from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 This is why when people say they want athletes to be honest, they don't REALLY mean it. Gotta seperate the athlete and the person, because sometimes they couldn't be anymore different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 When you've gone that far, why bother with an apology? That just makes you a liar on top of everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Feb 14, 2007 -> 11:24 PM) When you've gone that far, why bother with an apology? That just makes you a liar on top of everything else. Not really. His apology per SportsCenter said he shouldn't have said it, not that he didn't believe what he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 it will take a few years before anyone remembers him as a basketball player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 QUOTE(danman31 @ Feb 15, 2007 -> 12:31 AM) Not really. His apology per SportsCenter said he shouldn't have said it, not that he didn't believe what he said. Yeah, that's true, his apology didn't say much. But, as eager as he was, I don't even believe that he was sorry for saying it. You have to know what the reaction is gonna be. To go as far as he did, I have to think you're dying to get just that reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 that is unf***ingbelieveable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 The sad thing is, he now won't be remmbered for his career and all of the great things that he did, and the amazing crossover dribble he had. It'll be for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Hardaway has been taking part in NBA festivities ahead of Sunday's All-Star game in Las Vegas and attended an NBA Cares outreach event at a city YMCA with Knicks forward Jerome Williams on Tuesday. Junkyard Dawg is still in the league? Who knew? "Yes, I regret it. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said I hate gay people or anything like that," he said. "That was my mistake." translated: Man, the NBA doesnt want to pay me for appearances anymore so I better get this over with Hardaway should have known better, it isnt rocket science anymore that what you say to a camera is going to be dissected, criticized and repeated within minutes of it being said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spawn Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 I don't agree with, nor condone what Haradway had to say. It was nasty, mean, bigoted, etc. But I would've had more respect for him if he hadn't apologized. At least he spoke the truth. He wasn't PC, nor sugarcoated his response. His remarks showed why professional athletes don't "out" themselves until after they've retired. And his apology really wasn't an apology. The only thing he apologized for was making the remarks, not that what he said wasn't how he really felt. If you're going to make comments like the ones he made, you need to be ready for the backlash you will receive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 If this was hollywood they could just send him to rehab and everyone would forget it ever happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Feb 15, 2007 -> 09:51 AM) If this was hollywood they could just send him to rehab and everyone would forget it ever happened. Or he could blame his parents. Whoops, sorry, that was the 90's. I applaud him for his candor. I vilify him for his ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(spawn @ Feb 15, 2007 -> 08:59 AM) I don't agree with, nor condone what Haradway had to say. It was nasty, mean, bigoted, etc. But I would've had more respect for him if he hadn't apologized. At least he spoke the truth. He wasn't PC, nor sugarcoated his response. His remarks showed why professional athletes don't "out" themselves until after they've retired. And his apology really wasn't an apology. The only thing he apologized for was making the remarks, not that what he said wasn't how he really felt. If you're going to make comments like the ones he made, you need to be ready for the backlash you will receive. This is not an excuse! Hate-filled speech on any subject cannot be sanatized by wrapping and cleaning itself in the "Non-PC, Just Speaking his Mind" towel. Chris Rock can be Politically Incorrect. Stephen Colbert, Bill Maher, Dennis Miller...even some pundits can be non-PC. You cannot deflect the seriousness of one's hate-filled rants by playing the "He spoke his mind. He's entitiled to his own thoughts" card There is no respect for him, or for what he said, regardless of his apology. Edited February 15, 2007 by RibbieRubarb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Does he work for ESPN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 QUOTE(Jimbo @ Feb 15, 2007 -> 04:18 PM) Does he work for ESPN? he did right after he quit playing, but i don't think he has in quite some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 He and Michael Irvin should get their own comedy hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 People/reporters want athletes to speak the truth. Well even if what he said was well...... with the amount of crap he is being given the new answer to everything will be no comment. If people want honest answers from these guys you cant villify them if their beliefs arent popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 I really have no problem with what he said.....its his right as a citizen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 And he's a Chicago guy...I've lost a lot of respect for him... QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Feb 15, 2007 -> 10:48 AM) People/reporters want athletes to speak the truth. Well even if what he said was well...... with the amount of crap he is being given the new answer to everything will be no comment. If people want honest answers from these guys you cant villify them if their beliefs arent popular. Yes you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Feb 15, 2007 -> 04:56 PM) And he's a Chicago guy...I've lost a lot of respect for him... Yes you can. yes you can, but than don't expect athletes to tell the truth in the future, if you want to truth.... its ok to disagree with what someone says but to villify them for their personal beliefs just is going to get athletes in the future to either lie about it or say no comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(Jimbo @ Feb 15, 2007 -> 10:50 AM) I really have no problem with what he said.....its his right as a citizen. You have no problem with rhetoric that is filled with such hatred?!? I'm sorry but his "rights as a citizen" in NO WAY condones and excuses his actions. Its about time we stop using that as an excuse. It is HATE speech. Pure and Simple. QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Feb 15, 2007 -> 10:58 AM) yes you can, but than don't expect athletes to tell the truth in the future, if you want to truth.... its ok to disagree with what someone says but to villify them for their personal beliefs just is going to get athletes in the future to either lie about it or say no comment. Please do not dilute his comments. There is a strong difference in "personal beliefs" and what he said. He didn't say he liked the Rolling Stones over the Beatles. He didn't say he was Catholic and not a Baptist. He said "I HATE GAYS" Thats not a perosnal belief...that outright hatred. Edited February 15, 2007 by RibbieRubarb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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