Olney mentions Buehrle trade to the Mets

[harfman77]

trade market ≠ free agent market

 

It's been discussed on the board before, but teams would rather throw 8 digit figures at a mediocre starting pitcher on the free agent market for multiple years rather than give up prospects for a pitcher along with then having to resign said pitcher for an 8 digit figure.

 

And regardless, the White Sox got a former #1 prospect along with a top 5 prospect too. It's not like the Sox got no one, and seeing as how the Sox would have just let Freddy go after this season anyways, they basically got their 2 compensatory picks, one of whom will pitch in the majors this year and another who will pitch come 2008-09.

 

Depending on how the fifth starter turns out and what happens in Charlotte, KW could move MB before the deadline regardless of the standings if he could fleece someones prospects.

[witesoxfan]

Depending on how the fifth starter turns out and what happens in Charlotte, KW could move MB before the deadline regardless of the standings if he could fleece someones prospects.

 

no, it depends entirely upon how Buehrle is pitching and not how the 5th starter is pitching.

[harfman77]

no, it depends entirely upon how Buehrle is pitching and not how the 5th starter is pitching.

 

That doesnt make much sense to me, if MB is pitching poorly we are better off holding on to him and getting compensation when he walks. If he is pitching well and the rest of the staff is doing well enough that we will not have a significant drop in production, then we can afford to move him at mid-season and bring up the best performer in AAA. However if the 5th starter is a lingering issue that will prevent us from making a run down the stretch you would have to hold MB for the playoffs.

[southsideirish71]

That doesnt make much sense to me, if MB is pitching poorly we are better off holding on to him and getting compensation when he walks. If he is pitching well and the rest of the staff is doing well enough that we will not have a significant drop in production, then we can afford to move him at mid-season and bring up the best performer in AAA. However if the 5th starter is a lingering issue that will prevent us from making a run down the stretch you would have to hold MB for the playoffs.

 

We dont get draft picks anymore, they changed that. When MB leaves you get nothing. The only reason to keep him is for the value of his pitching for the 2007 season to the whitesox and that is it.

[Balta1701]

We dont get draft picks anymore, they changed that. When MB leaves you get nothing. The only reason to keep him is for the value of his pitching for the 2007 season to the whitesox and that is it.

That's incorrect. They altered the formula slightly in the last CBA, but for a top-flight free agent like Buehrle, the White Sox would almost certainly still get 2 draft picks unless his arm falls off this season.

 

Here's a summary of the changes, from BA:

Some changes have been made to the draft-pick compensation afforded teams which lose major league free agents. Type C free agents have been eliminated, while teams that lose Type B free agents, which had previously received a pick from the signing club, will now get a sandwich pick between the first and second rounds. (This was pursued by the union to remove the disincentive for teams to sign those players.) Those changes go into effect immediately.

 

The number of players deemed Type A and B has been tweaked as well. Type A free agents, whose former team continues to receive a first- or second-round pick from the signing club as well as an extra pick between the first and second rounds, will be reduced from the 30 percent of players (as determined by a statistical formula) to 20; the Type B band is reduced from 31-50 percent to 21-40.

 

These changes will take effect next offseason, allowing clubs which lose free agents this winter the same compensation they had always expected. Teams must still offer players salary arbitration to receive draft-pick compensation, though the deadline for that offer was moved up from Dec. 7 to Dec. 1.

Link. Edited March 2, 2007 by Balta1701