watchtower41 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Simple thread, pre-tourney final four.... GO I'll take.... UCLA Kansas Wisconsin Georgetown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 I hate doing this before i know the actual bracket. UCLA Kansas A&M Tennessee i like to be different, why not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchtower41 Posted February 28, 2007 Author Share Posted February 28, 2007 QUOTE(Jimbo @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 12:04 PM) I hate doing this before i know the actual bracket. UCLA Kansas A&M Tennessee i like to be different, why not me too, but I'm bored. UT did look awfully good last night, but have been very inconsistent away from home. Then again, most of those bad times was when Lofton was out. Really anxious to see A&M and Texas tonight. If Durant can beat them, he can carry them to a final four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 well except Saturday when Mr. Durant step one foot in the PHOG!!!! Pay heed to all who enter,beware of the phog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Well, before last night I would have said: Florida UCLA Kansas UNC However, Florida looked like utter crap against Tennessee, so now I'm more reserved about that one, I'd probably throw A&M in there. They will not make the Final Four playing like that, Horford was the only one that showed up. Also, without seeing the bracket I tend to go with the chalk, I'll have at least one team that's a 4-6 seed in there once I see the brackets (though I'm not enamored with anyone on Lunardi's current bracketology). QUOTE(watchtower41 @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 12:12 PM) me too, but I'm bored. UT did look awfully good last night, but have been very inconsistent away from home. Then again, most of those bad times was when Lofton was out. Really anxious to see A&M and Texas tonight. If Durant can beat them, he can carry them to a final four. I REALLY don't buy Texas in the Final Four. They have no interior players and have mastered the art of matador defense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Kansas UCLA Georgetown Florida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 I REALLY don't buy Texas in the Final Four. They have no interior players and have mastered the art of matador defense... very true. texas's resume sucks. if it wasn't for the publicity generated by durant they would not be sniffing the tournament, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Wisconsin UCLA A&M Nevada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchtower41 Posted February 28, 2007 Author Share Posted February 28, 2007 QUOTE(thedoctor @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 12:56 PM) very true. texas's resume sucks. if it wasn't for the publicity generated by durant they would not be sniffing the tournament, imo. Syracuse's resume in 2003 wasn't all that either. I could make the same case for Marquette that year. Special players have a way of getting things done in tournament time. I agree Texas' defense is very sub-par, however teams that face them will soley be focused in on how to stop Durant, and often get backed out of their normal gameplans and tempo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 QUOTE(watchtower41 @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 07:24 PM) Syracuse's resume in 2003 wasn't all that either. I could make the same case for Marquette that year. Special players have a way of getting things done in tournament time. I agree Texas' defense is very sub-par, however teams that face them will soley be focused in on how to stop Durant, and often get backed out of their normal gameplans and tempo. well, if texas wins the title or makes the final four i'll come back and say i was wrong. if not i'll probably still think they were way overhyped and potentially overseeded (we'll see in a week or so). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Carmelo was good, he also had Mcnamara and Warrick who were awesome as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchtower41 Posted February 28, 2007 Author Share Posted February 28, 2007 QUOTE(Jimbo @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 01:33 PM) Carmelo was good, he also had Mcnamara and Warrick who were awesome as well. Absolutely. But the ladder two did not develop their games until after Carmelo was gone. Now granted, it was McNamara that ultimately killed the Jayhawks in the championship. I'm certainly not saying Texas is underrated, but I certainly wouldnt want to play them in the 2nd round. Theyre favored by 2 at home against A&M tonight. Jimbo you heading to the Fieldhouse on Saturday?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 (edited) I will be at the greatest college basketball arean in the world..the home of manning, lovelette, pierce, hinrich, white, collison ,gooden, chamberlin, CHRISTIAN MOODY, and the future 2007 champions. Pay heed to all who enter, beware of the phog. I cant wait, i love afternoon games, when the sun beams from teh ceiling onto the court. What a senior night it will be, check that we have no seniors. Edited February 28, 2007 by Jimbo's Drinker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(watchtower41 @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 01:24 PM) Syracuse's resume in 2003 wasn't all that either. I could make the same case for Marquette that year. Special players have a way of getting things done in tournament time. I agree Texas' defense is very sub-par, however teams that face them will soley be focused in on how to stop Durant, and often get backed out of their normal gameplans and tempo. Syracuse was a 3-seed that year, they went 30-5 with 2 wins over a Sweet 16 Notre Dame team and a win against a strong Pitt team (2-seed that lost to Marquette in the Sweet 16). Marquette was 27-6 with a 14-2 record in Conference USA and wins over Wake Forest and Louisville (both ranked). I'm not entirely sure what seed they were, but given the bracket they faced (Holy Cross in the first, #24 Missouri in the second, #4 Pitt in the third, and #1 Kentucky in the Elite 8) I would say that they were probably a #3 seed as well. Texas on the other hand will fall in the 7-9 range unless they pull an upset this week. Their 3 best wins so far are against rather mediocre Texas Tech and Oklahoma State teams. Not exactly the same thing. Edited February 28, 2007 by ZoomSlowik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 (edited) I have one sure fire Final Four team and after that it's going to completely depend on matchups between about the other 4-6 teams that I think could get there. Edited February 28, 2007 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 02:07 PM) I have one sure fire Final Four team and after that it's going to completely depend on matchups between about the other 4-6 teams that I think could get there. Care to elaborate? I agree, a lot of it will depend on what teams they run into. The only team I really have any faith in right now is UCLA (quite a difference from last year, huh? ), I have some questions about everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 02:12 PM) Care to elaborate? I agree, a lot of it will depend on what teams they run into. The only team I really have any faith in right now is UCLA (quite a difference from last year, huh? ), I have some questions about everyone else. Another one of your favorite teams, Texas A&M. I love everything about that team, and have been beyond impressed when I've seen them play. I know they're resume overall isn't that impressive but they're the best team I've seen play this year(I know this is going to cause quite the stir here). As for UCLA, I'm still a fan, but I think their lack of an inside presence is going to catch up to them in the tournament. They're going to miss Ryan Hollins a bunch come March imo. Edited February 28, 2007 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchtower41 Posted February 28, 2007 Author Share Posted February 28, 2007 QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 02:02 PM) Syracuse was a 3-seed that year, they went 30-5 with 2 wins over a Sweet 16 Notre Dame team and a win against a strong Pitt team (2-seed that lost to Marquette in the Sweet 16). Marquette was 27-6 with a 14-2 record in Conference USA and wins over Wake Forest and Louisville (both ranked). I'm not entirely sure what seed they were, but given the bracket they faced (Holy Cross in the first, #24 Missouri in the second, #4 Pitt in the third, and #1 Kentucky in the Elite 8) I would say that they were probably a #3 seed as well. Texas on the other hand will fall in the 7-9 range unless they pull an upset this week. Their 3 best wins so far are against rather mediocre Texas Tech and Oklahoma State teams. Not exactly the same thing. Works for me, I stand corrected. I still like Durant to knock off A&M tonight, with that win and a couple in the Big XII tourney, a 5 seed is not out of the question for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 02:20 PM) Another one of your favorite teams, Texas A&M. I love everything about that team, and have been beyond impressed when I've seen them play. I know they're resume overall isn't that impressive but they're the best team I've seen play this year(I know this is going to cause quite the stir here). As for UCLA, I'm still a fan, but I think their lack of an inside presence is going to catch up to them in the tournament. They're going to miss Ryan Hollins a bunch come March imo. Actually, I recanted on a lot of my Texas A&M comments before the season... I don't know, I think UCLA can hold their own with Mata and Mbah a Moute as their inside guys, especially with the talent they have in the backcourt. The thing that worries me the most is depth. I like them against every team except possibly Kansas and OSU, and those are about toss-ups. As for A&M, I like them as a team, I got them in the Elite 8/Final Four territory depending on the matchups. My concern with them is that if they play a team with a little more offensive punch that still plays solid defense and maybe runs a little more they could have problems. They lost hard-fought games against LSU and UCLA earlier in the year as well as two games to Texas Tech in that fashion, and Acie Law bailed them out against Kansas. If they run into Kansas again or someone like OSU, Wisconsin, or Pitt I could see them going down (though I do like them more than those last 3, and Kansas is about a push). I would rank my confidence as such right now: 1) UCLA- I love their backcourt 2) Kansas- Would be #1 if not for their history, hiccups this year, and relative lack of challenges recently. 3) Texas A&M- They do have a lot of solid pieces, though individually Law is the only guy I really like. 4) UNC- They have me torn, generally I go with talent, but they've lost numerous games they probably shouldn't have. Perimeter players worry me, though I like Lawson. 5) Florida Dropped from #1 on my list with their play recently, they looked AWFUL last night. 6) OSU- Their roster outside of Oden and Conley worries me. Very inconsistent wing players, they've dodged a few bullets. 7) Wisconsin- Solid, but Butch injury worries me. Edited February 28, 2007 by ZoomSlowik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I seem to be in the minority, but I expect a pretty poor showing from the Big 12. I honestly can see them not even getting 1 team to the elite 8 depending on the brackets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Texas A&M Kansas Ohio St Pittsburgh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Mar 1, 2007 -> 01:12 AM) I seem to be in the minority, but I expect a pretty poor showing from the Big 12. I honestly can see them not even getting 1 team to the elite 8 depending on the brackets. 100% Agreed! I'm making sure to have all Big 12 teams out early in my bracket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Butler Notre Dame Indiana Purdue Or how about a long shot instead.... 1. Vanderbilt 2. Kansas 3. Michigan State 4. Georgetown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He_Gawn Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 08:39 PM) Butler Notre Dame Indiana Purdue Or how about a long shot instead.... 1. Vanderbilt 2. Kansas 3. Michigan State 4. Georgetown I was actually thinking the same thing. Izzo always has his teams ready to go and lately their bench has been playing pretty well. I also think Ramar Morgan is going to be a star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Mar 1, 2007 -> 01:39 AM) 1. Vanderbilt 2. Kansas 3. Michigan State 4. Georgetown I don't think Georgetown is a longshot at all. Outside of the poor showing at 'Cuse, they've been the best team in the Big East, and one of the hottest teams in college basketball over the past two months. Jeff Green is quite the player, and I'm sure everyone knows how efficient Roy Hibbert is with the ball down low. In the right bracket, I don't think that a Final Four appearance is all that unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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