Pastime Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 I have noticed something about Marte - and maybe the major league teams have figured it out as well. WATCH HIM CAREFULLY - when he throws a fastball, he winds up and his whole body literally flies hard towards home plate. However, when he's throwing a breaking ball, he winds up and his body gently or less quickly, heads towards home plate. He basically winds up and hurls a fastball with his body moving fast, but he lessens his follow-through on his breaking ball and doesn't move as fast. That's my take. I've seen it all year. I hope Don Cooper has seen it too. How else can you explain the way he's been shelled the last month? If you don't believe me, just watch him pitch. It's more obvious than anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 Good analysis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 If Coop hasn't noticed it, he needs to be gone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSOX45 Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 I have noticed something about Marte - and maybe the major league teams have figured it out as well. WATCH HIM CAREFULLY - when he throws a fastball, he winds up and his whole body literally flies hard towards home plate. However, when he's throwing a breaking ball, he winds up and his body gently or less quickly, heads towards home plate. He basically winds up and hurls a fastball with his body moving fast, but he lessens his follow-through on his breaking ball and doesn't move as fast. That's my take. I've seen it all year. I hope Don Cooper has seen it too. How else can you explain the way he's been shelled the last month? If you don't believe me, just watch him pitch. It's more obvious than anything. Pastime, I've also noticed this too. Hopefully Cooper can help Marte correct this problem. Otherwise we'll have one less arm in the pen that can help us in tight games. CWSOX45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 I have noticed something about Marte - and maybe the major league teams have figured it out as well. WATCH HIM CAREFULLY - when he throws a fastball, he winds up and his whole body literally flies hard towards home plate. However, when he's throwing a breaking ball, he winds up and his body gently or less quickly, heads towards home plate. He basically winds up and hurls a fastball with his body moving fast, but he lessens his follow-through on his breaking ball and doesn't move as fast. That's my take. I've seen it all year. I hope Don Cooper has seen it too. How else can you explain the way he's been shelled the last month? If you don't believe me, just watch him pitch. It's more obvious than anything. Pastime, I've also noticed this too. Hopefully Cooper can help Marte correct this problem. Otherwise we'll have one less arm in the pen that can help us in tight games. CWSOX45 but maybe he is not a nl pitcher. remember he was a so-so pit in the nl where pitts was ready to cut him before he was traded to the sox. he made me a believer, however i am still concerns when he enters and there is a runner on base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 I just hope MArte can get that fixed cuz he is mmy fav. Sox reliever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ncorgbl Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 I have noticed something about Marte - and maybe the major league teams have figured it out as well. WATCH HIM CAREFULLY - when he throws a fastball, he winds up and his whole body literally flies hard towards home plate. However, when he's throwing a breaking ball, he winds up and his body gently or less quickly, heads towards home plate. He basically winds up and hurls a fastball with his body moving fast, but he lessens his follow-through on his breaking ball and doesn't move as fast. That's my take. I've seen it all year. I hope Don Cooper has seen it too. How else can you explain the way he's been shelled the last month? If you don't believe me, just watch him pitch. It's more obvious than anything. Pastime, I've also noticed this too. Hopefully Cooper can help Marte correct this problem. Otherwise we'll have one less arm in the pen that can help us in tight games. CWSOX45 but maybe he is not a nl pitcher. remember he was a so-so pit in the nl where pitts was ready to cut him before he was traded to the sox. he made me a believer, however i am still concerns when he enters and there is a runner on base. Marte', like Wunsch, should be used sparringly and situationally. It seems that Major League batters figure out that sidearm delivery pretty quickly. His success got him more work, and more work makes for familiarity. In baseball, familiarity breeds offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartePartay Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 marte is the man nevertheless and we return to his previous dominance after he had a few rough outings do not worry and to anyone who would like to not have him :finger :finger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ncorgbl Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 marte is the man nevertheless and we return to his previous dominance after he had a few rough outings do not worry and to anyone who would like to not have him :finger :finger I agree, I've liked him since we got him. Marte' is one of the very few things Williams did right, even though it was by accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AssHatSoxFan Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 I agree, I've liked him since we got him. Marte' is one of the very few things Williams did right, even though it was by accident. even though it wasn't KWs idea to bring him here i know for sure it was someone else, it just makes him lookgood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ncorgbl Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 even though it wasn't KWs idea to bring him here i know for sure it was someone else, it just makes him lookgood Wunsch went down to injury and we needed a lefty out of the pen. Marte' was available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxplosion Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 I just hope MArte can get that fixed cuz he is mmy fav. Sox reliever. Mine too soxfan, mine too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 He will be ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 Wunsch went down to injury and we needed a lefty out of the pen. Marte' was available. The other corny thing that happened was that we got Ruddy/Edwin Yan in the deal too....a possible future 2Bman/leadoff man for the Sox. He's got incredible speed. We got Marte and Yan for Guerrier, who has struggled for the Buccos AAA team. I guess we got "redemption" for the Ritchie fiasco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 I just hope MArte can get that fixed cuz he is mmy fav. Sox reliever. We traded my favorite Sox reliever, Mr. Foulke who is now the third best closer in baseball behind Gagne and Smoltz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 I just saw Guerrier's name in today's paper. He beat the Rockies AAA team last night 5-1. 8 innings, 5 hits, 3 K's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 he made me a believer, however i am still concerns when he enters and there is a runner on base. Marte's delivery is the same as it has always been. Marte has always been better coming in with no runners on than when he inherits runners. The numbers don't lie. But after Sunday, I'm beginning to worry when he's brought in period. Didn't he get lit up in the Giants game that Colon pitched and a game versus the Red Sox ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 I just saw Guerrier's name in today's paper. He beat the Rockies AAA team last night 5-1. 8 innings, 5 hits, 3 K's. The funniest part of it all is that over his last 6 weeks, Guerrier's ERA is close to 2.00 and that he might make the Pirates before Rauch makes the Sox. 15 walks and 50 K's? Not to shabby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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