Grebeck Fan Club Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 Since we're about halfway through the season, I thought it would be fun to challenge the uber posters here. List the top Sox prospects by position. Try to list a couple of sleepers as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 Since we're about halfway through the season, I thought it would be fun to challenge the uber posters here. List the top Sox prospects by position. Try to list a couple of sleepers as well. cat - none 1b - casey rogowski sleeper sleeper: t. brice who is now playing of. but this one is a iffy 2b - miles, hummel sleeper: pedro lopez 3b - hummel sleeper: m. schnurstein and e. varela this one may overtake schnurstein. ss - andy gonzalez sleeper: g. reyes of'er - j borchard, j reed, a. webster. or even b anderson, even thou he was drafted this yr. sleepers; brice pit - j rauch, k honel, f diaz, n cotts, ryan wing sleepers: h phillips, d. haigwood. i am seeing these as long relief or relief pit. almonted, bullard, munoz, royce ring, west, sleeper: t. yofu (?), todd deininger, this guy may develop into a great rp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 Thats a pretty good team. Add Valido to the SS's ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 Allow me to take a stab at this.... 1B - Casey Rogowski (Winston-Salem), Brandon Bounds (Great Falls) Neither are considered high level prospects, but both have potential. The only other 1B you could possibly call a prospect is Ross Gload (Charlotte). I still think he is a long shot, but he keeps hitting so you never know. 2B - Ruddy Yan (Winston-Salem), Aaron Miles (Charlotte), Pedro Lopez (Kannapolis), Antoin Gray (Great Falls) The Sox deepest position other than pitcher. I rated Yan first because he has the most upside with his speed. There are still questions about his bat, however. Repeating high A may have helped him early on, but it is only holding him back now. Do you promote a guy now while he is struggling? Miles is the only one ready for the Show at this point, but it is still questionable how well he would do at that level, esp. longer term. Lopez might be the biggest sleeper. He is only 19 and is playing at full season Kannapolis after two seasons in rookie ball. He is hitting a respectable .271. He was listed by BA as the Sox #19 prospect and also the Best Defensive Infielder in the Sox system. Gray is the unknown. He was the Sox 25th round pick this year as a 3Bman out of Southern, the school that produced Rickie Weeks. He has been converted to 3B and has hit right out of the gate, which college players must in Rookie ball if they are to be taken seriously. SS - Andy Gonzalez (Kannapolis), Robert Valido (Bristol) I ranked Gonzalez higher here because he is still only 21 and has had some success already. He really struggled with the bat early this year including a horrific .160 for the Month of May. He has rebounded and hit .318 for the month of June so far. Valido was the Sox 4th round pick in this year's draft. Below is a scouting report from BA's draft preview. Robert Valido, ss Valido is part of a rich Coral Park shortstop tradition that also includes 2000's No. 3 overall pick, Luis Montanez. His defensive skills (strong arm, smooth actions, reliable hands) enabled him to hold off Rodriguez. He's the best defensive shortstop in Florida, though not quite in the same class as Robert Andino, a Marlins second-round pick out of a Miami high school last year. Offensively, he can't match Rodriguez' ceiling, but a team that believes Valido will produce at the plate could pop him as early as the second round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 3B - Micah Schnurstein (Great Falls), Edgar Varela (Kannapolis), Tim Hummel (Charlotte), Ryan Hankins (Charlotte) Schnurstein was a surprise from last year's draft. He hit from day 1 and has never stopped. He is a HS draftee so the Sox are not rushing him. I would have liked to see him in Kannapolis this year, but they moved Edgar Varela there instead. Varela was drafted last year as well but came out of Long Beach St. He will be 23 by season's end so he will need to keep moving up the ladder. He hit .330 last year in Bristol but is struggling somewhat at .241 this year. I included both Hummel and Hankins here for lack of a better place to put them. Hummel could end up back at 2B and can play SS as well. Hankins is a 1B/3B type, but has dabbled at 2B and even C as well. Hankins is a clutch hitter and a great organizational player, but will be a long shot because of a lack of a real position and lack of power. Hummel, you should all know about already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 OF - Joe Borchard, Jeremy Reed, Anthony Webster, Mike Spidale, Clint King, Ricardo Nanita, Thomas Brice, Chris Young Borchard (Charlotte) remains #1 on this list at least for the rest of this year. He has started to hit better once he went back to Charlotte and started working with Gregg Ritchie again. Reed (Birmingham) has done nothing but make everyone take notice. He would be in the Future's Game if more than 2 players per MLB team were allowed. Webster (Kannapolis) has also been much ballyhooed in the past year. He was BA's #3 prospect for the Sox and named Best Hitter for Average in the Sox system. He is hitting right around .300 in his first season of baseball. Hopefully, he can sustain it for 140 games and continue to be highly regarded. Spidale (Winston-Salem) may surprise some that I have him rated this highly. He is a speedy CF that BA rated as the Best Defensive OF in the Sox system. He repeated Kannapolis last year after struggling at the plate in 2001 and an early season injury. He bounced back to hit .291 in 93 games and is hitting .302 with 15 SB at Winston this year, after again suffering an early season injury. He has little or no power, but walks a decent amount. Could be an interesting top of the order guy. King (Great Falls) was the Sox 3rd round pick this year, so the jury is still out. He is listed at 6-2 190 and is a LH hitting OF with power. He hit .394 with 23 HR and 77 RBI for Southern Miss who lost in the NCAA Regionals. He also walked 25 times in 254 AB, which is respectable. Nanita (Great Falls) could surprise. He was the Sox 14th round pick this year out of Florida International. He just turned 22, so he is a little older and will need to succeed from Day 1. He has done that so far hitting .455 in his first 6 games. He hit .388 with 12 HR and 52 RBI at FIU and walked 39 times in 194 AB, while striking out only 34 times. Like King, Reed and Webster, he is also a LH hitter. Brice (Kannapolis) was rated the #30 prospect by BA so he may deserve to be a little higher on this list. He is 21 and was drafted last year out of Juco in Alabama. He is a native Australian who also hits LH. He is hitting .275 at Kannapolis but has no HRs. He hit .327 at Bristol last year. He goes 6-5 210 and has played 1B as well. Lastly, another possible surprise is Young (Bristol). He is only 20 and was the Sox 16th round pick in last year's draft. He struggled with average at Tucson last year, but had 13 doubles, 5 home runs and walked 19 times. He did strikeout a lot, however. He was a 1st team All-Stater out of talent-laden Texas. He is currently hitting .429 in his first 6 games this year. He may be a long shot, but I felt he was worth mentioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 Chisoxfn or MSF, it's your turn to take us home with the pitchers and catchers. I have to try and get some work done. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnSoxFan Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 Well done Rex. I will take Lopez behind Yan at 2B. I will take Brice at 1B over Rogo. Bounds 2nd there. I just am not enthused over Rogo. Only C I am enthused about, tho he has not hit, is Lisk. No way Almonte is on this team, I was not even high on him coming into this season and all he has done is stink it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnSoxFan Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 Pitchers: Starters: Rauch, Honel, Wing, Cotts and Yofu, with Lamura and Allen deserving of some respect for having decent seasons so far. Haigwood cannot be on there, he is out for season I have heard. Relievers: Ring, Ginter (he has had a nice season), Meaux, and for LH and RH specialists for a couple hitters Munoz and Stumm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 Behind the plate we don't have much, so I'll have to say Mike Rivera is number one on that list. Lisk isn't bad and I think its too early to judge the guys we just drafted. Pitching: Kris Honel Ryan Wing Neal Cotts Royce Ring Jon Rauch Felix Diaz Emencio Pacheco Arnaldo Munoz BJ Lamura Quite a few pitchers I'm high on like McCarthy, Haigwood, Miller, Rupe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebeck Fan Club Posted June 24, 2003 Author Share Posted June 24, 2003 Did we draft any catchers of note this year? Olivo's looking good, but we need depth. Rivera's a guy who most likely will be in another team's system next year. Excellent work Rex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 No catchers that will blow your mind. I'd like to see them take Ryan Garko (may of spelled that wrong) out of Stanford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI1020 Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 Behind the plate we don't have much, so I'll have to say Mike Rivera is number one on that list. Lisk isn't bad and I think its too early to judge the guys we just drafted. Pitching: Kris Honel Ryan Wing Neal Cotts Royce Ring Jon Rauch Felix Diaz Emencio Pacheco Arnaldo Munoz BJ Lamura Quite a few pitchers I'm high on like McCarthy, Haigwood, Miller, Rupe. Many of you here know this stuff much better than I do but it appears if we have a strength is it pitching. It seems like we're thin elsewhere. I have some high hopes for Webster and Reed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 No catchers that will blow your mind. I'd like to see them take Ryan Garko (may of spelled that wrong) out of Stanford. Garko was just a 3rd round pick by Cleveland. He was a senior this year. Went undrafted as a junior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 I'd say that pitching was the strength, but this draft really got the Sox a ton of good position players. They also got some good arms, but those arms are tough signs, so it will be interesting to see how it plays off. Still, to me before I classify arms as super studs, they got to hit AA, unless they are just moving through the system super quick. I think if the Sox are picking high up next year, they should go for a great catcher if there is one there or take a stud college pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 No catchers that will blow your mind. I'd like to see them take Ryan Garko (may of spelled that wrong) out of Stanford. Garko was just a 3rd round pick by Cleveland. He was a senior this year. Went undrafted as a junior. Damn, shows what I know, lol. I swore he was a junior that went undrafted and was going to come back next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 You're accurate, but a year behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnSoxFan Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 I do not ever want us taking a catcher with a high pick again. We have wasted too many over the years, as have most teams. Take some shots in top 10 rounds, but not too high. We signed two so far this year, 21st rounder from HS in Texas and a college guy from aroud the 35th round or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 Beautiful job Rex. Thanks for the insight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 Beautiful job Rex. Thanks for the insight. Why thank ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 I do not ever want us taking a catcher with a high pick again. We have wasted too many over the years, as have most teams. Take some shots in top 10 rounds, but not too high. We signed two so far this year, 21st rounder from HS in Texas and a college guy from aroud the 35th round or so. i don't know about that. next yr if there is a college cat avail or hs cat avail that is ranked high and not a boras kid. i would like to draft him. we need help in the cat department. i am surprise on how well m olivio has developed. don't let hsc hear me say this. we need to sign this kids and look in getting help at cat. if i remember right, they even tried this kid hankins(sp) behind the plate a couple of time. i may have gotten the player wrong, but the point is we need cat prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 Allow me to take a stab at this.... 1B - Casey Rogowski (Winston-Salem), Brandon Bounds (Great Falls) Neither are considered high level prospects, but both have potential. The only other 1B you could possibly call a prospect is Ross Gload (Charlotte). I still think he is a long shot, but he keeps hitting so you never know. 2B - Ruddy Yan (Winston-Salem), Aaron Miles (Charlotte), Pedro Lopez (Kannapolis), Antoin Gray (Great Falls) The Sox deepest position other than pitcher. I rated Yan first because he has the most upside with his speed. There are still questions about his bat, however. Repeating high A may have helped him early on, but it is only holding him back now. Do you promote a guy now while he is struggling? Miles is the only one ready for the Show at this point, but it is still questionable how well he would do at that level, esp. longer term. Lopez might be the biggest sleeper. He is only 19 and is playing at full season Kannapolis after two seasons in rookie ball. He is hitting a respectable .271. He was listed by BA as the Sox #19 prospect and also the Best Defensive Infielder in the Sox system. Gray is the unknown. He was the Sox 25th round pick this year as a 3Bman out of Southern, the school that produced Rickie Weeks. He has been converted to 3B and has hit right out of the gate, which college players must in Rookie ball if they are to be taken seriously. SS - Andy Gonzalez (Kannapolis), Robert Valido (Bristol) I ranked Gonzalez higher here because he is still only 21 and has had some success already. He really struggled with the bat early this year including a horrific .160 for the Month of May. He has rebounded and hit .318 for the month of June so far. Valido was the Sox 4th round pick in this year's draft. Below is a scouting report from BA's draft preview. Robert Valido, ss Valido is part of a rich Coral Park shortstop tradition that also includes 2000's No. 3 overall pick, Luis Montanez. His defensive skills (strong arm, smooth actions, reliable hands) enabled him to hold off Rodriguez. He's the best defensive shortstop in Florida, though not quite in the same class as Robert Andino, a Marlins second-round pick out of a Miami high school last year. Offensively, he can't match Rodriguez' ceiling, but a team that believes Valido will produce at the plate could pop him as early as the second round. good job, but i still question yan hitting and that is why i don't see him as a bona-fide prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebeck Fan Club Posted June 25, 2003 Author Share Posted June 25, 2003 Hankins would be intriguing as a catcher because he isn't going to make it otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnSoxFan Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 Carlos Lee in the Rookie League, who I believe is actually Carlos Lee's brother, (why do they do that? ) has caught a little bit this season. I just do not want to waste high draft pick on a catcher, almost 99% of the time they do not pan out. Toughest position to draft for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 Allow me to take a stab at this.... 2B - Ruddy Yan (Winston-Salem), Aaron Miles (Charlotte), Pedro Lopez (Kannapolis), Antoin Gray (Great Falls) The Sox deepest position other than pitcher. I rated Yan first because he has the most upside with his speed. There are still questions about his bat, however. Repeating high A may have helped him early on, but it is only holding him back now. Do you promote a guy now while he is struggling? good job, but i still question yan hitting and that is why i don't see him as a bona-fide prospect. Isn't that what I said?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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