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QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 05:10 PM)
Note to our management. Top lip, bottom lip marry them together.

 

I guess the one comment is that he believes Brian and Bmac were out partying is what he says.

BTW it is now official that Ozzie doesnt like Brian. Its not just a theory.

Why is that official? Maybe Ozzie meant that BMAC should have befriended some veterans to teach him more about the majors, maybe to give him some guidance. Why automatically does it always have to be so negative. It could have even been a joke between him and Brian. There are assumptions on both sides, and they are probably ALL wrong.

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QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 05:12 PM)
Why is that official? Maybe Ozzie meant that BMAC should have befriended some veterans to teach him more about the majors, maybe to give him some guidance. Why automatically does it always have to be so negative. It could have even been a joke between him and Brian. There are assumptions on both sides, and they are probably ALL wrong.

 

His comments were direct.

 

Ozzie made the comment in this reference.

 

He said he only had Brian Anderson as a friend, he made the wrong friend. I have people around town. I know when they are out at the bars.

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QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 05:14 PM)
His comments were direct.

 

Ozzie made the comment in this reference.

 

He said he only had Brian Anderson as a friend, he made the wrong friend. I have people around town. I know when they are out at the bars.

Funny, BA didnt go out nearly as much as Cotts and some others, but yeah that must be it.

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QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 05:14 PM)
His comments were direct.

 

Ozzie made the comment in this reference.

 

He said he only had Brian Anderson as a friend, he made the wrong friend. I have people around town. I know when they are out at the bars.

 

My people are better than your people

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QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 05:16 PM)
Funny, BA didnt go out nearly as much as Cotts and some others, but yeah that must be it.

 

He specifically linked Brian and Bmac. Its not just others or the media linking them.

 

 

QUOTE(Wedge @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 05:16 PM)
My people are better than your people

 

Obviously your people are not as good as Guillens. Because his people obviously report back on partying of white sox players.

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QUOTE(ptatc @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 11:03 PM)
The Sox as an organization have a responsibility to continue to be good not drop off the face of the Earth. Being short sighted to win every game at the expense progessive thinking is why clubs like the scrubbies are mired in defeat.

 

Ozzie apparently (I didn't hear the interview) said that if McCarthy wasn't with the club last year we would've made the playoffs.

 

There's no excuse for saying that. None at all. Putting it on one guy? That's a f***ing joke, you NEVER do that.

 

And the hypocrisy is hilarious. Ozzie is the guy who continually trotted out Mackowiak in CF. Ozzie is the guy who continually trotted out Podsednik in LF, despite the fact that there were at least FOUR better starting options.

 

Next year at SoxFest, someone needs to ask him where the Sox would've been had McCarthy not been on the 2005 roster.

 

This is so f***ing ridiculous. I'm embarrassed by his stupid ass comments.

 

QUOTE(watchtower41 @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 09:02 PM)
Getting a potential #1 for the next decade??

 

Pass me some of what you're smoking. Danks ain't a #1.

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QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 05:19 PM)
Ozzie apparently (I didn't hear the interview) said that if McCarthy wasn't with the club last year we would've made the playoffs.

 

There's no excuse for saying that. None at all. Putting it on one guy? That's a f***ing joke, you NEVER do that.

 

And the hypocrisy is hilarious. Ozzie is the guy who continually trotted out Mackowiak in CF. Ozzie is the guy who continually trotted out Podsednik in LF, despite the fact that there were at least FOUR beter starting options.

 

Next year at SoxFest, someone needs to ask him where the Sox would've been had McCarthy not been on the 2005 roster.

 

This is so f***ing ridiculous. I'm embarrassed by his stupid ass comments.

 

Mack in CF and our pitching sucking balls as a group had more to do with us being out of the playoffs, than a mop up guy in the bullpen.

 

 

 

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 05:19 PM)
Pass me some of what you're smoking. Danks ain't a #1.

 

Who is Danks agent. Maybe that will cool the entire decade comment from the previous poster.

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QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 05:18 PM)
Obviously your people are not as good as Guillens. Because his people obviously report back on partying of white sox players.

 

I wouldn't say so much people.

 

I have top men working on it now.

Who?

Top... men...

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QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 11:21 PM)
Mack in CF and our pitching sucking balls as a group had more to do with us being out of the playoffs, than a mop up guy in the bullpen.

 

This organization is a JOKE when players leave.

 

Best player to ever don a White Sox uniform? Trash that asshole. Ironically enough, Guillen actaully didn't say a word there.

 

The best young pitching prospect this team has drafted and developed since Mark Buehrle. Trash him. Why do they CONTINUALLY air the dirty laundry?

 

"Brandon was a big part of our 2005 WS run, but we like the talent we're getting in return."

 

Done. End of story. Guys ask about it? NO f***ING COMMENT.

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QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 05:19 PM)
Ozzie apparently (I didn't hear the interview) said that if McCarthy wasn't with the club last year we would've made the playoffs.

 

There's no excuse for saying that. None at all. Putting it on one guy? That's a f***ing joke, you NEVER do that.

 

And the hypocrisy is hilarious. Ozzie is the guy who continually trotted out Mackowiak in CF. Ozzie is the guy who continually trotted out Podsednik in LF, despite the fact that there were at least FOUR beter starting options.

 

Next year at SoxFest, someone needs to ask him where the Sox would've been had McCarthy not been on the 2005 roster.

 

This is so f***ing ridiculous. I'm embarrassed by his stupid ass comments.

 

It's great how things get taken. Ozzie was commenting on how McCarthy said the Sox were negative and had a negative clubhouse. Ozzie's reply was that he didn't get to know most of the team and that maybe it's hard to be very positive whyen he was pitching like crap. He could think of 5 situations where McCarthy blew games. If he hadn't blown those maybe we make the playoffs.

 

granted he shouldn't lay it out there like that but McCarthystarted it all with bashing the Sox as being a negative team and too boring and Married. McCarthy is a smart guy it wouldn't surprise me if he bashed the Sox knowing how Ozzie would react.

 

It's interesting how everyone enjoys busting on Ozzie but refuse to lay any blame on the players. If players suck Ozzie put them in a bad position. If the players do well, they did it despite Ozzie. He had abslutely nothing to do with showing confidence in them to run them out there to prove it.

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From his interview on the Score

 

BMac blames himself for not winning more, he went out at night but he was always prepared.

He never meant any disrespect toward the Sox at all. He is happier being on a younger team rather than an older one. He was trying to be positive for his new situation.

He talked to people in Chicago (sounded like Sox players) and told them he wasn't being negative.

 

And the score online dropped out...

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QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 05:25 PM)
This organization is a JOKE when players leave.

 

Best player to ever don a White Sox uniform? Trash that asshole. Ironically enough, Guillen actaully didn't say a word there.

 

The best young pitching prospect this team has drafted and developed since Mark Buehrle. Trash him. Why do they CONTINUALLY air the dirty laundry?

 

"Brandon was a big part of our 2005 WS run, but we like the talent we're getting in return."

 

Done. End of story. Guys ask about it? NO f***ING COMMENT.

 

Then everyone will rip Ozzie or KW for not telling the truth or hiding everything from everybody. We want everyone to just tell the truth except when we don't like it.

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QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 05:19 PM)
Ozzie apparently (I didn't hear the interview) said that if McCarthy wasn't with the club last year we would've made the playoffs.

On www.670thescore.com, the interview is available under the headline "podcasts." I'm listening to it right now.

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End of interview

 

Admits being irresponsible but changed his habits when the Sox asked him to slow down.

He doesn't know why he and BA being friends is bad.

He thinks being traded is a baseball move, all of this is hindsight.

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QUOTE(ptatc @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 06:30 PM)
It's great how things get taken. Ozzie was commenting on how McCarthy said the Sox were negative and had a negative clubhouse. Ozzie's reply was that he didn't get to know most of the team and that maybe it's hard to be very positive whyen he was pitching like crap. He could think of 5 situations where McCarthy blew games. If he hadn't blown those maybe we make the playoffs.

 

granted he shouldn't lay it out there like that but McCarthystarted it all with bashing the Sox as being a negative team and too boring and Married. McCarthy is a smart guy it wouldn't surprise me if he bashed the Sox knowing how Ozzie would react.

 

It's interesting how everyone enjoys busting on Ozzie but refuse to lay any blame on the players. If players suck Ozzie put them in a bad position. If the players do well, they did it despite Ozzie. He had abslutely nothing to do with showing confidence in them to run them out there to prove it.

He didn't say the clubhouse was negative, he said guys in the clubhouse weren't his age and weren't single. He said the Sox coaching was focusing on the negative, as in, 'Don't do this', and he didn't react well to that sort of coaching. It's not bashing the club, but, hey, the word "negative" was there.

 

Great how things get taken.

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QUOTE(ptatc @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 11:30 PM)
Ozzie's reply was that he didn't get to know most of the team and that maybe it's hard to be very positive whyen he was pitching like crap. He could think of 5 situations where McCarthy blew games. If he hadn't blown those maybe we make the playoffs.

 

So you pick out individual moments? Who are you kidding? That makes absolutely no sense. I could pick out a more "situations" from other players who "blew" more games than BMac.

 

It's interesting how everyone enjoys busting on Ozzie but refuse to lay any blame on the players. If players suck Ozzie put them in a bad position. If the players do well, they did it despite Ozzie. He had abslutely nothing to do with showing confidence in them to run them out there to prove it.

 

What does this have to do with blame? Ozzie is being a dumbass, AGAIN, and I'm calling him on it.

 

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McCarthy handles his Score interview with 100% class.

 

:cheers B-Mac

 

Then everyone will rip Ozzie or KW for not telling the truth or hiding everything from everybody. We want everyone to just tell the truth except when we don't like it.

 

People would rip Ozzie and Kenny for choosing the high road, for choosing not to air "dirty" laundry (although in this case, it seems the dirty laundry is coming from the manager's mouth)? Those people are idiots.

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QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 05:39 PM)
So you pick out individual moments? Who are you kidding? That makes absolutely no sense. I could pick out a more "situations" from other players who "blew" more games than BMac.

 

It had to do with why they were negative with McCarthy not coddling him and always being positive

 

 

 

What does this have to do with blame? Ozzie is being a dumbass, AGAIN, and I'm calling him on it.

 

That's your right but I don't blame Ozzie for replying to McCarthy bashing Ozzie's team. Ozzie shouldn't defend his team I guess.

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McCarthy handles his Score interview with 100% class.

 

After starting the whole mess by bashing the Sox, clubhouse and players.[ I don't hold it against Ozzie for defending his players/b]

 

:cheers B-Mac

 

 

 

People would rip Ozzie and Kenny for choosing the high road, for choosing not to air "dirty" laundry (although in this case, it seems the dirty laundry is coming from the manager's mouth)? Those people are idiots.

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