hitlesswonder Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Mar 9, 2007 -> 10:55 PM) If Purdue wins tomorrow, could they really put in 6 Big 10 teams, and 5 ACC teams? No -- no way. Earlier, Lunardi on ESPN said that Illinois would still be out even with a win over Indiana (since Xavier and Nevada lost). I think Purdue makes the NCAA as the 5th team and thats it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 10, 2007 -> 05:30 AM) It'd be Indiana before Illinois or Michigan State. But I don't think there is reason to worry for them, Purdue is probably the only bubble team left in the Big Ten. Lunardi just said that Purdue is in. I think the biggest loser today was Fla St., as they seemingly have no chance to make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Mar 10, 2007 -> 05:32 AM) No -- no way. Earlier, Lunardi on ESPN said that Illinois would still be out even with a win over Indiana (since Xavier and Nevada lost). I think Purdue makes the NCAA as the 5th team and thats it. For starters, Illinois has a top 30 RPI and play in a major conference. They are a lock, even moreso than Indiana now. If he actually said that Illinois would be out even with this win, Lunardi truely has no idea what he is talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitlesswonder Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 9, 2007 -> 11:36 PM) For starters, Illinois has a top 30 RPI and play in a major conference. They are a lock, even moreso than Indiana now. If he actually said that Illinois would be out even with this win, Lunardi truely has no idea what he is talking about. Well, apparently Lunardi does think Illinois is in. I only heard him say that after the Xavier & Nevada upsets he thought they were out, but someone else posted that he followed that up by saying that the Illini were in after beating Indiana. So I'm not going to win a prize for accurate reporting.... Anyway, 6 Big 10 teams? That's just crazy. Be interesting to see how they perform.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH IM f***ING PUMPED b****ESSSSSSSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Well Lunardi is saying something different now because last I heard he said both Purdue and Illinois were in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Finally done with the dvr'd version... f*** YES! WHAT A GAME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Mar 9, 2007 -> 08:32 PM) agreed. And I'm a fan of the Big Ten. It's Wisconsin, Ohio State, and a bunch of mediocrity. I'd seriously have no problem if those were the only teams that got in. This conference is a joke this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bones Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 what a game. i just got back from the long drive from the uc. i don't care how ugly it was, if illinois isn't in the tournament then something is wrong. they just out hussled indiana tonight and played like a team that needed to win to assure that tourney spot. it may seem impossible but tomorrow's game against wisconsin may turn out just as ugly being that it is illinois' third game in three days and from what i saw from wisconsin in the second half they weren't exactly lighting things up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 We're going to be tired as hell later today. I hope they can make a game of it and have a chance to win. At least Randle won't be tired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 As an Indiana fan, I am now somewhat worried about getting into the dance. I know IU has been considered a "lock" but I am not too comfortable right now. That was some ugly basketball last night by both teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitlesswonder Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Mar 10, 2007 -> 06:24 AM) As an Indiana fan, I am now somewhat worried about getting into the dance. I know IU has been considered a "lock" but I am not too comfortable right now. That was some ugly basketball last night by both teams Everything I read still has Indiana as a lock. It's Illinois that should be worried -- Bracketography has them out after last night's win and in the Suntimes today Jerry Palm (who knows what he's talking about it) said that Illinois is still on the bubble at best and needs to beat Wisconsin. Thinking about it, I just don't see 6 Big Ten teams going. Unless Illinois beats Wisconsin today I still think they're out. Indiana has probably dropped down, but it's still the 3rd Big Ten team in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Mar 10, 2007 -> 06:24 AM) As an Indiana fan, I am now somewhat worried about getting into the dance. I know IU has been considered a "lock" but I am not too comfortable right now. That was some ugly basketball last night by both teams You guys are in, you have the Rowand guarantee(Note: the last time the Rowand guarantee was used was when I said Gonzaga would not make the s16 last year, so you obviously have nothing to worry about). P.S. Rex, I pm'ed an admin from VT two days ago and still haven't received a response. Edited March 10, 2007 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Mar 10, 2007 -> 01:41 PM) Everything I read still has Indiana as a lock. It's Illinois that should be worried -- Bracketography has them out after last night's win and in the Suntimes today Jerry Palm (who knows what he's talking about it) said that Illinois is still on the bubble at best and needs to beat Wisconsin. Thinking about it, I just don't see 6 Big Ten teams going. Unless Illinois beats Wisconsin today I still think they're out. Indiana has probably dropped down, but it's still the 3rd Big Ten team in. Again, Illinois is top 30 in the RPI and play in a major conference. They are a lock, no question. IU has now stooped below both UI and MSU in terms of seeding now too. Illinois has the better RPI, the better SOS, 3 more wins, and a 2-1 record vs Indiana. Why would UI be a bubble team but IU not be? Again, doesn't matter though, both teams are locks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 10, 2007 -> 09:02 AM) Again, Illinois is top 30 in the RPI and play in a major conference. They are a lock, no question. IU has now stooped below both UI and MSU in terms of seeding now too. Illinois has the better RPI, the better SOS, 3 more wins, and a 2-1 record vs Indiana. Why would UI be a bubble team but IU not be? Again, doesn't matter though, both teams are locks. IU has better wins, that's why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Mar 10, 2007 -> 03:09 PM) IU has better wins, that's why. Which still doesn't make up for the fact that every other aspect of Illinois' resume is better now. Even so, they have a home win over Wisconsin over Illinois, and thats it. Not nearly enough to make or brake a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 10, 2007 -> 09:16 AM) Which still doesn't make up for the fact that every other aspect of Illinois' resume is better now. Even so, they have a home win over Wisconsin over Illinois, and thats it. Not nearly enough to make or brake a team. Their other numbers are so freakin close that it probably doesn't make that much of a difference. It depends what site you look at for rpi as on some IU is ahead and on some UI is ahead, it's a basic wash. UI's sos is better by 12 spots, which is fine but definitely not something that is going to decide a seed line and as for the wins, well Illinois played 3 extra games. Regardless of what anyone thinks of SIU a win over a top 10 rpi team is impressive. IU has two wins over probable protected seeds, something Illinois doesn't even come close to. Their other numbers are so darn close that unless Illinois beats Wiscy today, IU should still be the higher seed imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 For comparison's sake Illinois has: 1. Better RPI 2. Better SOS 3. 2-1 Head to head over Indiana 4. More Big Ten wins 5. 7-3 in their last ten over 5-5 6. Better on the road (9-7 vs 5-10) 7. 3 more wins overall Indiana has: 1. More signature wins 2. Less losses Not as close as it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 10, 2007 -> 09:33 AM) For comparison's sake Illinois has: 1. Better RPI 2. Better SOS 3. 2-1 Head to head over Indiana 4. More Big Ten wins 5. 7-3 in their last ten over 5-5 6. Better on the road (9-7 vs 5-10) 7. 3 more wins overall Indiana has: 1. More signature wins 2. Less losses Not as close as it seems. Once again, the better rpi isn't necessarily the case, it depends on what site you look at. They have more big 10 wins because IU got a bye into the quarters, bad argument. They do have a better record in their last 10 and that 9-7 is road AND neutral which includes 5 wins in the Chicago land area, so look at that how you want. That being said, one of those neutral games was also a loss to UA in Zona. They do have more wins, but again, they've played 3 more games. Add into the equation that IU has two wins over probable protected seeds and all the other numbers are so ridiculously close, IU still has the better overall resume imo. Edited March 10, 2007 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Wasn't Illinois' SOS within the Big Ten lower than even Indiana's? I could be wrong there, but I think Illinois had a slightly easier schedule in conference. Still, either way you look at it, with everything else that could happen the next two days, I would not be overly confident if I were a fan of either team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Mar 10, 2007 -> 11:30 AM) Wasn't Illinois' SOS within the Big Ten lower than even Indiana's? I could be wrong there, but I think Illinois had a slightly easier schedule in conference. Still, either way you look at it, with everything else that could happen the next two days, I would not be overly confident if I were a fan of either team. Dude, you have the Rowand guarantee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Mar 10, 2007 -> 11:31 AM) Dude, you have the Rowand guarantee. that's really all i need, for everything in life. I still would be amazed if we didn't make, but with all of the upsets that have happened, they're going to make us sweat it out, at least a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Mar 10, 2007 -> 07:41 AM) Everything I read still has Indiana as a lock. It's Illinois that should be worried -- Bracketography has them out after last night's win and in the Suntimes today Jerry Palm (who knows what he's talking about it) said that Illinois is still on the bubble at best and needs to beat Wisconsin. Thinking about it, I just don't see 6 Big Ten teams going. Unless Illinois beats Wisconsin today I still think they're out. Indiana has probably dropped down, but it's still the 3rd Big Ten team in. Or bracketology has them as an 11 seed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 if the Illini dont get in something is wrong with the system, I might not even watch the tourney if that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Oden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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