Lance Briggs Quote

[RockRaines]

He is trying to ruin the rep of the bears by acting like this. The Bears have tons of leverage to ruin Briggs. Franchise him, let him sit, franchise him again, let him sit. He made a bad decision and he now has to sit in that s*** puddle.

[Controlled Chaos]

I don't think a player ever gets the average of the top 5 salaries in the league. From the CBA, it seems that, the third time a player gets franchised, he gets either the average of the top 5 salaries of whichever position has the highest average for top 5 salaries (qb, I imagine), or 120% of the average of the top 5 at his position, or 144% of his prior year salary. From the CBA:

 

Ahh...that's what it is...average of the top 5 salaries of the highest paid position. I knew it was different from the first tag of top 5 of their position.

[CanOfCorn]

He is trying to ruin the rep of the bears by acting like this. The Bears have tons of leverage to ruin Briggs. Franchise him, let him sit, franchise him again, let him sit. He made a bad decision and he now has to sit in that s*** puddle.

 

I can't imagine any GM or owner thinks the Bears are doing anything wrong. And there are plenty of players (I'm assuming) that think Lance is being a baby about this whole thing. The Bears were given a tool to help themselves and they used it. Instead of whining, why can't he realize that this may be a good thing. He's so valuable, that they were willing to give him a HUGE raise and STILL let him go on the open market next year.

 

Eat that s*** sandwich, buddy.

[DBAHO]

Hmmm;

 

Drew Rosenhaus, the agent for Bears' disgruntled Pro Bowl linebacker Lance Briggs, told FOXSports.com that the Redskins informed him Monday that they would like to swing a deal that would send Washington's first-round pick, No. 6 overall, to Chicago for the Bears' first-rounder, No. 31, and Briggs.

 

When asked about such an offer Redskins owner Dan Snyder confirmed to FOXSports.com that he in fact wanted to make the move and they were waiting to talk to Chicago. In fact, Snyder spent a couple of minutes talking to Briggs, who showed up with Rosenhaus at the meeting.

 

Snyder and football operations man Vinny Cerato left to find head coach Joe Gibbs regarding the deal. But before leaving Rosenhaus informed Cerato that he in fact spoke with the Bears and they were waiting an official call from the Redskins.

 

Brady Quinn anyone?

[SoxAce]

Damn, that looks like a decent deal but for our # 1 AND Briggs? Makes you think.

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: On second thought.... yea I'd do that deal.

Edited March 27, 2007 by SoxAce

[witesoxfan]

Damn, that looks like a decent deal but for our # 1 AND Briggs? Makes you think.

 

You're losing Briggs anyways. The most you're going to get for him is like a 2nd round pick, maybe a late 1st. To get a top 10 pick for your 1st and a LB who is unhappy and wants out? Highway robbery

[SoxAce]

You're losing Briggs anyways. The most you're going to get for him is like a 2nd round pick, maybe a late 1st. To get a top 10 pick for your 1st and a LB who is unhappy and wants out? Highway robbery

 

That's why I said "makes you think" and it did in my eyes. Damn a higher pick with what we could address? Damn it looks like the bears can get a stud.

[WHarris1]

Bet it's all posturing by Snyder to help his buddy Rosenhaus drum up false interest in his client, Briggs.

 

Seriously - why would they discuss a trade right in front of Glazer?

[mr_genius]

I would go straight up, Briggs for the #6 pick. I wouldn't throw in our first round pick.

 

Show that you're willing to let Briggs sit. If the Bears act desperate to make a deal because they "would rather get something than nothing" for Briggs, they'll get ripped off. Briggs is a top linebacker in the NFL.

[rangercal]

I say let Briggs sit. Set an example. If not, they will be in the same situation with Tommie Harris next year. If the bears do not get 2 1st rd draft picks ( like other franchised players fetched) Let him sit.

 

The bears hold the high hand and Briggs and Rosenhaus know it.

No way should they trade Briggs just to move up.

[southsideirish]

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Mar 26, 2007 -> 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The Bears NEED to make that deal.

 

 

 

No doubt about it. THey have to swing this deal. What are the chances Joe Thomas falls to 6? Probably not good, but that is who I would want. Move Jon Tait back over to RT and put Miller on the bench as a backup and that is one hell of an O-Line. I would also possibly take Gaines Adams, Levi Brown, Patrick Willis, or Greg Olsen, but Joe Thomas would be the player I would target, unless Calvin Johnson falls that far - YEAH RIGHT!

[DBAHO]

I would go straight up, Briggs for the #6 pick. I wouldn't throw in our first round pick.

 

Show that you're willing to let Briggs sit. If the Bears act desperate to make a deal because they "would rather get something than nothing" for Briggs, they'll get ripped off. Briggs is a top linebacker in the NFL.

The #6 pick for a linebacker who'll be 27 in November and can't play in a 3-4 seems like an awful lot to give up.

 

Plus he's not exactly a huge pass rusher for an outside linebacker.

 

I'd say 31 and Briggs for 6 is a good deal.

 

The Bears could then trade up with Detroit (who want to trade down) and draft either Thomas or Calvin Johnson to help that offense.

 

Then draft a replacement for Briggs in the high 2nd round.

[GoodAsGould]

if we didnt have to give up our pick id love it, but idonno with the way its at now.

[DBAHO]

NFL Network and FOXSports.com report the Redskins and Bears are discussing a trade that would send franchise player Lance Briggs and the No. 31 overall pick to Washington in exchange for the No. 6 pick.

 

A huge contract and a 25-spot jump in the first round. This would be an enormous price for Briggs, who some consider a "system player" in Lovie Smith's defense. It would also relegate Rocky McIntosh to the bench.

[DrunkBomber]

Briggs is now threatening to sit out the first ten games and play the last six which gives him a lot of leverage because then wed have to sign him to the more expensive tag, if they wanted to next year, and pay him for the last six games in which he more than likely wouldnt play anyway.

[southsider2k5]

That's pretty much what I expected to happen. The guy only cares about money, and this is the way to maximize his leverage. I really hope the Redskins deal happens, and we get this guy out of here.

[RME JICO]

That's pretty much what I expected to happen. The guy only cares about money, and this is the way to maximize his leverage. I really hope the Redskins deal happens, and we get this guy out of here.

The Skins deal would be huge. The Bears could use that pick or trade down and pick up extra first day picks.

 

 

 

I have zero respect for players like Briggs.

[EvilMonkey]

Briggs is now threatening to sit out the first ten games and play the last six which gives him a lot of leverage because then wed have to sign him to the more expensive tag, if they wanted to next year, and pay him for the last six games in which he more than likely wouldnt play anyway.

OK, say he sits 10, then comes back. His odds in getting hurt those last 6 games, assuming the Bears just don't let him rot on the inactive list, are increased. 10 weeks with no practice, no hitting, etc, then to jump right into the game, bam! I can see a blown hammie in the second game played. Buh bye long term security! And if he comes back, plays, and doesn't play hard because he is afraid of an injury, what does that say about his character as a teammate?

 

That being said, I would do the deal if if didn't involve swapping picks. PLus, it couldn't hurt to ask for something else too, say a 4th or 5th round thrown in as well. Worst he can do is say no. Lets see how bad he really wants Briggs.

[CanOfCorn]

The only way I would make that trade is if the 'skins added in either a second, first day pick or a conditional 1st next year (if they can do that in the NFL). Otherwise, let him sit. Let him come back for 6 games...and then deactivate him. If he walks, he walks, but he's not going to get the huge contract he wants if he sits the year.

 

Shoot, if you de-activate him for the final six games, you can say it's for his own protection. We don't want him to get hurt since he missed all of training camp and the first 10 weeks.

 

Hold firm, Bears...hold firm.

[RME JICO]

More from ESPN.com:

PHOENIX -- While a proposal has yet to be formalized, the Washington Redskins will make a trade offer to the Chicago Bears aimed at acquiring two-time Pro Bowl weakside linebacker Lance Briggs, agent Drew Rosenhaus and two league sources told ESPN.com late Monday night.

 

Washington will propose a swap of first-round draft picks in this year's draft -- the Redskins own the sixth overall selection and Chicago has the 31st choice -- in exchange for Briggs. The potential deal, which is expected to pick up steam on Tuesday morning as the annual NFL meetings continue, would be contingent on the Redskins signing Briggs to a long-term contract.

 

On Monday afternoon, Briggs arrived at the resort hotel where NFL owners are meeting and met briefly with Bears general manager Jerry Angelo.

 

"It was good in the sense that we talked man-to-man," Briggs said. "But not much changed [during the meeting]. But it was good, a positive step, in that we both know where each other stands in this thing."

 

Subsequent to that meeting, Briggs spoke with representatives with a few teams, including the Redskins. The standout linebacker spoke with Washington owner Dan Snyder, coach Joe Gibbs and general manager Vinny Cerrato. At some point in the evening, the Washington brass determined to make a play for Briggs, and there were discussions with Rosenhaus about potential contract parameters.

 

Rosenhaus, who has struck several deals with Snyder, said later Monday that reaching a contract agreement with the Redskins was "a strong likelihood." But he also acknowledged that Washington still had to formalize a trade proposal and the Bears had to accept.

 

"But it's a win-win situation," Rosenhaus said. "Chicago only wants to sign Lance to a one-year contract anyway. If they made the trade, they would move up 25 spots in the first round and be able to choose one of the premier players in the draft. And Lance, obviously, would get the long-term deal he wants [from the Redskins]. It's a good resolution for everyone."

 

 

The only way I would make that trade is if the 'skins added in either a second, first day pick or a conditional 1st next year (if they can do that in the NFL). Otherwise, let him sit. Let him come back for 6 games...and then deactivate him. If he walks, he walks, but he's not going to get the huge contract he wants if he sits the year.

 

Shoot, if you de-activate him for the final six games, you can say it's for his own protection. We don't want him to get hurt since he missed all of training camp and the first 10 weeks.

 

Hold firm, Bears...hold firm.

This is a business decision and not some sort of agenda.

 

The Bears have an opportunity to get something equivalent to the #16 pick if this trade goes thru. They can pick up an impact player using the pick, or parlay it into multiple first day picks to add depth and fill needs.

 

It would be ridiculous for them to just keep him for one year just to get nothing for him a year from now. This move would also free up 7 million on the payroll for other key re-signings and other FA aquisitions.

Edited March 27, 2007 by RME JICO

[CanOfCorn]

More from ESPN.com:

 

Of course, it's a win-win situation for you, Drew. Either way, your gettin' paid. Idiot.

[RME JICO]

Of course, it's a win-win situation for you, Drew. Either way, your gettin' paid. Idiot.

Thats funny because he always uses that quote.

[CanOfCorn]

This is a business decision and not some sort of agenda.

 

The Bears have an opportunity to get something equivalent to the #16 pick if this trade goes thru. They can pick up an impact player using the pick, or parlay it into multiple first day picks to add depth and fill needs.

 

It would be ridiculous for them to just keep him for one year just to get nothing for him a year from now. This move would also free up 7 million on the payroll for other key re-signings and other FA aquisitions.

 

Angelo offered up the chance to go to free agency next year. They turned it down. He's going to make a guaranteed $7.2 million this year if he signs. Can he get injured? Sure he can. Can he have a down year? Sure he can. But he can also have another year like last or even better, possibly get back to the Super Bowl and maybe even win it. HOw will THAT affect his next contract that the Bears definitely won't match.

 

Look, I'm just saying that the #6 pick isn't enough. I wouldn't draft a safety that high, I don't think there are any impact LB that deserve to go that high and the impact players will go 1-5, like Thomas, Brown or Johnson. I'm saying the #6 and maybe a third-rounder would be good. The Bears already got kinda screwed on draft picks with the Thomas Jones trade. The Bears have the leverage. They should get more and make the 'Skins overpay if they really want him.

[RME JICO]

Angelo offered up the chance to go to free agency next year. They turned it down. He's going to make a guaranteed $7.2 million this year if he signs. Can he get injured? Sure he can. Can he have a down year? Sure he can. But he can also have another year like last or even better, possibly get back to the Super Bowl and maybe even win it. HOw will THAT affect his next contract that the Bears definitely won't match.

 

Look, I'm just saying that the #6 pick isn't enough. I wouldn't draft a safety that high, I don't think there are any impact LB that deserve to go that high and the impact players will go 1-5, like Thomas, Brown or Johnson. I'm saying the #6 and maybe a third-rounder would be good. The Bears already got kinda screwed on draft picks with the Thomas Jones trade. The Bears have the leverage. They should get more and make the 'Skins overpay if they really want him.

I completely understand where you are coming from, because swapping picks never feels like the same thing as just acquiring extra picks. You have to believe there will be teams willing to move up to get guys like Quinn if they are still on the board. The Bears could pick up a mid round pick, draft someone like Poz or Olsen, then use the extra picks on OL, DL, and S.

[CanOfCorn]

Here are the franchise tag payment rules simplified.

 

The Bears can place the franchise tag on Briggs for three seasons to keep him off the free agent market. The first two seasons, the Bears must pay him an average of the top five players at his position. The third season, they must pay him the average of the top five players in the league regardless of position. Under franchise tag rules, the only leverage a player has is to withhold services.

 

So, if the Bears wanted to be jerks, they could possibly hold him for another year for about $8 mil next year. They won't, but they could.