Kyyle23 Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 06:21 AM) I dont think if we lost Briggs we could afford to go after a DT in the top 10. Thats a lot of money t tie up at DT especially when there are so many other positions that need to be addressed more urgently. I would be pissed if we drafted a DT. I think the only way the Bears are drafting a DT is if they get the 6 and trade down for more picks, which is what Clayton and DBAHO are referring to. I dont think there is any way the Bears grab a DT with the 6 pick, that would piss EVERYONE off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Just out of curiosity... if they keep him, he sits 10 and shows up for game 11, what happens if the Bears don't put him in uniform? Or if they just release him? He doesn't get paid in that case then, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 08:29 AM) Just out of curiosity... if they keep him, he sits 10 and shows up for game 11, what happens if the Bears don't put him in uniform? Or if they just release him? He doesn't get paid in that case then, correct? I think it would become an NFLPA disaster/fiasco of epic proportions. It would probably get them to rewrite the CBA in a hurry to prevent it from happening again. Rosenhaus seems determined to become the Boras of Football. I see him as a cross between Boras and Mark Cuban, for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 09:29 AM) Just out of curiosity... if they keep him, he sits 10 and shows up for game 11, what happens if the Bears don't put him in uniform? Or if they just release him? He doesn't get paid in that case then, correct? A franchise tag contract is guaranteed; I don't imagine that would change with a holdout (that is, I'd guess the prorated portion of the contract would still be guaranteed), but that's just a surmise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 06:21 AM) I dont think if we lost Briggs we could afford to go after a DT in the top 10. Thats a lot of money t tie up at DT especially when there are so many other positions that need to be addressed more urgently. I would be pissed if we drafted a DT. I wouldn't be in favor of drafting a DT. You have to remember they have a HUGE bust rate as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 01:29 PM) I wouldn't be in favor of drafting a DT. You have to remember they have a HUGE bust rate as well. Higher than other positions? I think dt is a relatively safe pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 08:29 AM) Just out of curiosity... if they keep him, he sits 10 and shows up for game 11, what happens if the Bears don't put him in uniform? Or if they just release him? He doesn't get paid in that case then, correct? Even if the Bears suspend him, it counts as a year of service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 30, 2007 Author Share Posted March 30, 2007 I guess the bears are holding out for more than just the 6th overall pick. Clayton said they may be able to swing a later round pick with it as well. That would be a huge win for the bears. We have proven over the last several years that anyone playing next to Brian Urlacher can play at a pro bowl level. Colvin, Holdman, now Briggs. If we can somehow swing him and draft one stud and another starter, its a huge win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 04:05 PM) I guess the bears are holding out for more than just the 6th overall pick. Clayton said they may be able to swing a later round pick with it as well. That would be a huge win for the bears. We have proven over the last several years that anyone playing next to Brian Urlacher can play at a pro bowl level. Colvin, Holdman, now Briggs. If we can somehow swing him and draft one stud and another starter, its a huge win. There is a huge difference in the level of play between Briggs and Holdman. They aren't even close as players. And Colvin has been damn good with the Patriots when healthy. Playing next to Urlacher sure hasn't turned Hillenmeyer into anything even close to resembling a pro bowler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 09:07 PM) There is a huge difference in the level of play between Briggs and Holdman. They aren't even close as players. And Colvin has been damn good with the Patriots when healthy. Playing next to Urlacher sure hasn't turned Hillenmeyer into anything even close to resembling a pro bowler. But it has turned him into a solid 3rd LB after being cut by the Packers who at the time only had 1 legit LB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 Holdman doesn't deserve to mentioned in the same sentence as Briggs or Colvin. Briggs is superior than Colvin and both were not just a product of playing next to Urlacher. Briggs is one of the 10 best linebackers in the league (no doubt about it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 31, 2007 Author Share Posted March 31, 2007 QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 03:07 PM) There is a huge difference in the level of play between Briggs and Holdman. They aren't even close as players. And Colvin has been damn good with the Patriots when healthy. Playing next to Urlacher sure hasn't turned Hillenmeyer into anything even close to resembling a pro bowler. We dont know if Briggs is at a higher level until he plays without one of the best in the game next to him. Briggs has been called a "system guy" and I cant disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Bears turn down Redskins proposed deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 3, 2007 Author Share Posted April 3, 2007 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Apr 3, 2007 -> 02:33 PM) Bears turn down Redskins proposed deal. It was an ok deal for the Bears, but im glad they are sticking to their guns and asking for more. They could really rape a team on a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Apr 3, 2007 -> 02:43 PM) It was an ok deal for the Bears, but im glad they are sticking to their guns and asking for more. They could really rape a team on a deal. This is one of those times in a GMs life when you have to look like a patsy or stick to your guns. Angelo just showed the league and the other players around the league that he will listen to offers, but won't take it if he doesn't feel it's worthy. After all the bad press, this is a HUGE win for the Bears. If Briggs gets pissed and lashes out again, the Bears can say, "We think you, as a player, are worth more than a #6 pick. We want you to play next year for our team. If someone comes in with what WE feel is a good offer, we'll take it, but we won't take just anything. Now, why don't you take your 7.2 mil guaranteed for 2007 and you can make your money next year?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Apr 3, 2007 -> 02:57 PM) This is one of those times in a GMs life when you have to look like a patsy or stick to your guns. Angelo just showed the league and the other players around the league that he will listen to offers, but won't take it if he doesn't feel it's worthy. After all the bad press, this is a HUGE win for the Bears. If Briggs gets pissed and lashes out again, the Bears can say, "We think you, as a player, are worth more than a #6 pick. We want you to play next year for our team. If someone comes in with what WE feel is a good offer, we'll take it, but we won't take just anything. Now, why don't you take your 7.2 mil guaranteed for 2007 and you can make your money next year?" I can already imagine the Zach Zaidman interview on the way home from work today, Briggs is going to call up and talk about how disrespected he is and he is going to hem and haw and toe the line and say he wants to stay and he wants to get traded in the same breath. This offseason has been long and brutal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Good move by Angelo. Moving up in the draft isn't enough for Briggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Nice move Jerry. The inmates don't run the asylum here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 From the Trib: Prospects for dealing Briggs took a hit during the owners meetings when agent Drew Rosenhaus escorted him on a meet-and-greet tour of general managers and personnel heads. Several teams voiced displeasure at the spectacle and lost whatever slight interest they had in Briggs, who is demanding a long-term contract with guaranteed money in the range of $15 million to $20 million. Nice going, Drew. Although I can hear his explanation now....... "No comment." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 01:20 PM) From the Trib: Nice going, Drew. Although I can hear his explanation now....... "No comment." Not sure if the owners are choosing Briggs situation to set an example, but some of them are actually showing some solidarity. There is no way Briggs gets a guranteed 15 million if he doesn't play all next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Makes you wonder, how much power the Halas/McCaskey legacy still holds in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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