FlaCWS Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Maybe I'm totally blind but I haven't seen Owens' name in the box score the past couple of games. I ask because Anderson continues to hit like crap and, while I'll probably get slammed for this, I truly believe Owens is the better long-term solution in CF. I realize Anderson has only had one year and now a spring, and I'm not totally ready to give up on him, but I am just not that impressed. Yes he's a great glove but he's been a total liability at the plate. Owens looks like a guy who could hit for a good average by slapping the ball around and getting a bunch of hits on his speed alone. Besides that, he could be a leadoff hitter and basestealing threat a la Podsednick in '05 - and as a bonus could mean we don't have to rely on Scotty anymore (letting Erstad keep the seat warm for Sweeney in '08). Even if we want to put Erstad in CF and Jerry in LF, I'd love to see him win the roster spot over Brian. Thoughts? (ducks)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Jerry Owens is supposedly horrific in the outfield, although I did hear KW call him a CF. Sweeney would play CF before Owens. If Anderson fails to hit, I think Sweeney will be in Chicago at least until Pods comes back. Hopefully thats in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLAK Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 QUOTE(FlaCWS @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 07:58 PM) Maybe I'm totally blind but I haven't seen Owens' name in the box score the past couple of games. I ask because Anderson continues to hit like crap and, while I'll probably get slammed for this, I truly believe Owens is the better long-term solution in CF. I realize Anderson has only had one year and now a spring, and I'm not totally ready to give up on him, but I am just not that impressed. Yes he's a great glove but he's been a total liability at the plate. Owens looks like a guy who could hit for a good average by slapping the ball around and getting a bunch of hits on his speed alone. Besides that, he could be a leadoff hitter and basestealing threat a la Podsednick in '05 - and as a bonus could mean we don't have to rely on Scotty anymore (letting Erstad keep the seat warm for Sweeney in '08). Even if we want to put Erstad in CF and Jerry in LF, I'd love to see him win the roster spot over Brian. Thoughts? (ducks)... MLB.com said he's starting in LF tomorrow in the A game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Owens is a LF. To say he's a CF is to say Willie Harris was a CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 08:02 PM) I don't really think it's fair to judge a player that I really have only see take 4 or 5 AB's, but from the very little I have seen, and from all I hear, he projects alot closer to the 2006 Pods than the 2005 Pods. I have like his at bats, havent seen him field a ball yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 08:26 PM) Owens is a LF. To say he's a CF is to say Willie Harris was a CF. Oh Willie ... Willie .. Willie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaCWS Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 Like I said at the end of the post, even if you want to put Owens in LF, I wouldn't mind seeing him win a spot over Anderson. Start the year with Erstad in CF and Pods in LF and groom Sweeney and Owens to take those spots over in '08. I'm just not an Anderson fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(FlaCWS @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 07:58 PM) Maybe I'm totally blind but I haven't seen Owens' name in the box score the past couple of games. I ask because Anderson continues to hit like crap and, while I'll probably get slammed for this, I truly believe Owens is the better long-term solution in CF. I realize Anderson has only had one year and now a spring, and I'm not totally ready to give up on him, but I am just not that impressed. Yes he's a great glove but he's been a total liability at the plate. Owens looks like a guy who could hit for a good average by slapping the ball around and getting a bunch of hits on his speed alone. Besides that, he could be a leadoff hitter and basestealing threat a la Podsednick in '05 - and as a bonus could mean we don't have to rely on Scotty anymore (letting Erstad keep the seat warm for Sweeney in '08). Even if we want to put Erstad in CF and Jerry in LF, I'd love to see him win the roster spot over Brian. Thoughts? (ducks)... Nooooo. Not a guy with speed. Speed is useless. Ozzie will mismanage him. He'll only play because Ozzie loves speed!!!!! Edited March 8, 2007 by ptatc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 QUOTE(ptatc @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 07:39 PM) Nooooo. Not a guy with speed. Speed is useless. Ozzie will mismanage him. He'll only play because Ozzie loves speed!!!!! If he could hit in the big leagues like he hit in AA 2 years ago, he'd be darn useful playing, but if he hit like he hit in AAA last year.... Leadoff men with excellent speed who steal bases, hit .330, and push .400 with their OBP's can be damn useful. Leadoff men who hit .262 with excellent speed with OBP's pushing .330 tend to wind up being replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Gleason Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Mike Caruso was fast. We should call him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 10:13 PM) Mike Caruso was fast. We should call him up. But Mike Caruso had a monster rookie season Back to Jerry Owens, he had very impressive AA numbers two years ago but he really struggled in AAA last year. He is pretty bad defensively but, IMO, he is better then Pods in the OF. He is also a LF, not a CF. I think Owens is best suited for 4th OF in the MLB. He has speed, he is a good contact hitter, and he could play all 3 spots if needed. But then again, he can be a decent leadoff hitter if he can work on his stealing and fine toon his hitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 QUOTE(BearSox @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 08:35 PM) But Mike Caruso had a monster rookie season Back to Jerry Owens, he had very impressive AA numbers two years ago but he really struggled in AAA last year. He is pretty bad defensively but, IMO, he is better then Pods in the OF. He is also a LF, not a CF. I think Owens is best suited for 4th OF in the MLB. He has speed, he is a good contact hitter, and he could play all 3 spots if needed. But then again, he can be a decent leadoff hitter if he can work on his stealing and fine toon his hitting. Right now, IMO, if Owens could hit .300 against big league pitching, he's a better option than Podsednik due to age, injury, and cost. I just have seen nothing yet that convinces me that he can hit that well in the real show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 I like the idea of possibly having Owens start off the year at leadoff and left field because if he does good, we have possibly found our future for leadoff hitter for a couple years at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Anyone who questions Mike Caruso's talent is a f***ing idiot. The man had and likely still has (he's still only 29) all the talent in the world. He played some solid defense his rookie year in 1998 as a 21 year old rookie his defense only slipped the following year in '99 likely because of an unwillingness to improve on his game and some extraciricular activities that may hamper an athletes abilities. Anyone who hits .306 with 22 SBs and an 89 OPS as a 21 year old rookie obviously has some f***ing talent damnit. If he wanted to he could probably earn his way back onto a team as a backup infielder but he's likely a little occupied with other more important dealings in some latin country to work on his game at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 10:48 PM) Anyone who questions Mike Caruso's talent is a f***ing idiot. The man had and likely still has (he's still only 29) all the talent in the world. He played some solid defense his rookie year in 1998 as a 21 year old rookie his defense only slipped the following year in '99 likely because of an unwillingness to improve on his game and some extraciricular activities that may hamper an athletes abilities. Anyone who hits .306 with 22 SBs and an 89 OPS as a 21 year old rookie obviously has some f***ing talent damnit. If he wanted to he could probably earn his way back onto a team as a backup infielder but he's likely a little occupied with other more important dealings in some latin country to work on his game at all. per wikipedia... He currently works as a tax specialist with MetLife in Long Island City, Queens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 QUOTE(BearSox @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 10:54 PM) per wikipedia... Damn straight, making something of himself unlike all you f***ing losers. Tax SPECIALIST b****, SPECIALIST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 10:57 PM) Damn straight, making something of himself unlike all you f***ing losers. Tax SPECIALIST b****, SPECIALIST. Hell yeah! Being a specialist is much better then being able to consistantly hit .300 in the majors! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 QUOTE(BearSox @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 10:58 PM) Hell yeah! Being a specialist is much better then being able to consistantly hit .300 in the majors! Any pansy ass b**** can hit .300 at the major league level, hell Mike did it as a 21 year old. He concurred that mountain already, now he's one of the top Tax Specialists in the country. I'm sure he's making 8 figures from Metlife, they're lucky to have him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 11:01 PM) Any pansy ass b**** can hit .300 at the major league level, hell Mike did it as a 21 year old. He concurred that mountain already, now he's one of the top Tax Specialists in the country. I'm sure he's making 8 figures from Metlife, they're lucky to have him. Are you kidding me? He is a specialist, not some office lackey! He is probably making 9 figures... at least! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 08:48 PM) Anyone who questions Mike Caruso's talent is a f***ing idiot. The man had and likely still has (he's still only 29) all the talent in the world. He played some solid defense his rookie year in 1998 as a 21 year old rookie his defense only slipped the following year in '99 likely because of an unwillingness to improve on his game and some extraciricular activities that may hamper an athletes abilities. Anyone who hits .306 with 22 SBs and an 89 OPS as a 21 year old rookie obviously has some f***ing talent damnit. If he wanted to he could probably earn his way back onto a team as a backup infielder but he's likely a little occupied with other more important dealings in some latin country to work on his game at all. Caruso was awesome for a rookie. The sky was the limit for him and man could that guy run. He could have turned into a consistent 50-75 base stealer. Also, lets not forget his rookie season was something like his first year above a ball and he hit .300 doing it. Too bad he had a little dope problem and already thought he was amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 I've actually liked Owens' at bats, and I watched him play some OF (a couple games on TV, and one in person in ST last year). He looked a lot better out there than, say, Ozuna does. Not in the same league as Anderson, though. I'm on the believer side with Owens, I think he can turn into an MLB starting OF. But I'm in the minority. As for this year, if he has a good spring (and thus far, he hasn't), I think he deserves a shot as much as Anderson does. But Owens is still raw, and a year of playing at AAA will help him immensely. He'd be more ready in 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 8, 2007 -> 08:11 AM) I've actually liked Owens' at bats, and I watched him play some OF (a couple games on TV, and one in person in ST last year). He looked a lot better out there than, say, Ozuna does. Not in the same league as Anderson, though. I'm on the believer side with Owens, I think he can turn into an MLB starting OF. But I'm in the minority. As for this year, if he has a good spring (and thus far, he hasn't), I think he deserves a shot as much as Anderson does. But Owens is still raw, and a year of playing at AAA will help him immensely. He'd be more ready in 2008. With a speed guy, it's surprisingly easy to wind up as a ML quality outfielder, IMO. All you have to do is not strike out. Put the ball in play and you're going to hit for a good average, because you'll beat out enough ground balls to improve your average. And defensively, even if you have no arm and make poor decisions in the OF, your speed can help you make up for the mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshot7 Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 I wish I knew. I picked him towin ROTY last year. Ha! shows what I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 QUOTE(longshot7 @ Mar 8, 2007 -> 01:33 PM) I wish I knew. I picked him towin ROTY last year. Ha! shows what I know. yeah ya did... good times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Mike Caruso is a whore on the side, he told me so himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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