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A source indicated that Sox general manager Ken Williams has been in talks with Philadelphia GM -- and good friend -- Pat Gillick about a deal that would send middle-relief help, including left-hander Boone Logan, to the Phillies for former Sox outfielder Aaron Rowand.

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QUOTE(Straycats @ Mar 9, 2007 -> 07:39 AM)
A source indicated that Sox general manager Ken Williams has been in talks with Philadelphia GM -- and good friend -- Pat Gillick about a deal that would send middle-relief help, including left-hander Boone Logan, to the Phillies for former Sox outfielder Aaron Rowand.

 

What source?

 

BTW, once anything comes out before it happens, it doesn't happen. So this is probably just more speculation. Rowand is not lighting it up this spring either (2-18, 0 BB, 5K, .111 BA), and Logan is, so this doesn't make much sense. The Sox don't need another 5th outfielder.

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QUOTE(Straycats @ Mar 9, 2007 -> 06:39 AM)
A source indicated that Sox general manager Ken Williams has been in talks with Philadelphia GM -- and good friend -- Pat Gillick about a deal that would send middle-relief help, including left-hander Boone Logan, to the Phillies for former Sox outfielder Aaron Rowand.

Bruce Wolf on the morning TV news mentioned it today as well.

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QUOTE(mreye @ Mar 9, 2007 -> 06:55 AM)
And this is rumor number 1,247 about Rowand coming back. Let it go, people.

 

Yea no kidding. We have enough outfielders working for a job, Aaron would be handed the job even with his average hitting.

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Considering Ozzie just flat out doesnt like BA this wouldnt surprise me.When has Ozzie ever had to manage someone he didnt like?If he has problems with someone they will be gone and this would be an excuse to ship BA out.

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I wouldnt really mind a return to the Sox for Rowand, but it would just seem silly to trade two players to the Phillies only to turn around one year later and deal more prospects and players to get them both back. There has to be someone out there who can be equal to Rowand who isnt on the Phillies

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QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 9, 2007 -> 06:54 AM)
We will regret dealing Boone Logan. We don't have the depth with lefty relievers to deal.

 

 

Southsider, long time no talk, hope all is well, I don't post much anymore and if I do its only to certian folks,i just thought I needed to comment on this, Boone logan, andersen sweeney and just about every other minor league player we have Blows. We need a center fielder and the Sox love rowand and most likely he will sign with us for less money to play here. In addition, Boone Logan didn't exactly light he place up last year. furthermore anytime the sox start talking up one of there young players you know they are as good as gone. I would love to have rowand back, not because he is great just because he is way better than the crap we currently have. In addition maybe we can send gavin floyd back because he sucks too, he has no killer instinct. hope to see you around town or at the park sometime. take care.

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So let's see how this makes sense.

 

Ozzie wants 3 lefties for the pen. We have Thornton, Sisco (who I think should be starting down at Charlotte) and Logan.

 

For our OF spots, Jermaine Dye is a given. Scott Podsednik will make the roster if he's healthy, and Darin Erstad is going to have a role so that's 3 guys. Rob Machowiak and Pablo Ozuna play as backup OF's, and Brian Anderson is either going to start in CF for the Sox or the Knights.

 

So how do you fit a guy like Rowand into that mix, especially if then you have to replace Logan as well?

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QUOTE(quickman @ Mar 9, 2007 -> 07:42 AM)
Southsider, long time no talk, hope all is well, I don't post much anymore and if I do its only to certian folks,i just thought I needed to comment on this, Boone logan, andersen sweeney and just about every other minor league player we have Blows. We need a center fielder and the Sox love rowand and most likely he will sign with us for less money to play here. In addition, Boone Logan didn't exactly light he place up last year. furthermore anytime the sox start talking up one of there young players you know they are as good as gone. I would love to have rowand back, not because he is great just because he is way better than the crap we currently have. In addition maybe we can send gavin floyd back because he sucks too, he has no killer instinct. hope to see you around town or at the park sometime. take care.

 

I am usually not a big minor league guy. I like to sit back and see what a guy has before I jump onto, or off of, their bandwagons. I love Logan's arm, and I feel much better knowing that the problem last year was his confidence got crushed, which as a 21 year old making the jump straight from middle A ball, doesn't bother me at all. I think with what he learned last year, he is primed for a solid year in the pen, especially with a guy like Thornton sucking up the toughest lefty innings and batters. What I don't want to see is the Sox bringing Sisco north, and repeating the same mistakes the Royals did with him, and stunting his growth.

 

BTW, good to see you too Q :cheers DOn't be a stranger.

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QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Mar 9, 2007 -> 07:49 AM)
So let's see how this makes sense.

 

Ozzie wants 3 lefties for the pen. We have Thornton, Sisco (who I think should be starting down at Charlotte) and Logan.

 

For our OF spots, Jermaine Dye is a given. Scott Podsednik will make the roster if he's healthy, and Darin Erstad is going to have a role so that's 3 guys. Rob Machowiak and Pablo Ozuna play as backup OF's, and Brian Anderson is either going to start in CF for the Sox or the Knights.

 

So how do you fit a guy like Rowand into that mix, especially if then you have to replace Logan as well?

 

Do you really want Osuna & Mack in the outfield? Personally we need LEGIT outfielders.

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Just like everyone else, I am a huge Rowand fan and would love to see him back... however, I'm not giving up Boone Logan to get him. He has looked great this spring and good left-handed relievers are hard to come by. Maybe offer them Aardsma instead?

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This is another part of this story I just saw on MLBtraderumors, so TIFWIW of course but I would be pissed if MacDougal is included in this deal.....

 

"Given that a Rowand for Scott Linebrink trade was seriously under consideration, I wonder if the Sox would have to surrender a closing-worthy reliever like Mike MacDougal to close the deal."

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QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Mar 9, 2007 -> 08:09 AM)
Do you really want Osuna & Mack in the outfield? Personally we need LEGIT outfielders.

 

I agree, so if the Sox are going to trade for an OF I think the should try for somone like Baldelli -- not Rowand. I like Aaron, but he really can't hit very well and I think the injuries are starting to take a toll on his defense. It seems like most PHI fans thought Victorino was better in CF last season. Rowand would end up platooning with Erstad, and I think he would be only a marginal improvement to the team. The Phillies wanted Linebrink for Rowand, so the Sox will have to give up a lot more than just Logan to get him. I think would have to be something like Logan and Haeger and I think that would be foolish. Jeez, just trading Logan for Rowand migt be foolish...

 

 

 

QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Mar 9, 2007 -> 09:04 AM)
This is another part of this story I just saw on MLBtraderumors, so TIFWIW of course but I would be pissed if MacDougal is included in this deal.....

 

"Given that a Rowand for Scott Linebrink trade was seriously under consideration, I wonder if the Sox would have to surrender a closing-worthy reliever like Mike MacDougal to close the deal."

 

 

That would be absolutely atrocious. But I do agree that bringing Rowand back will cost more than anyone would want to give up. Don't do it Kenny. Just sign him in the offseason if you love him so much.

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QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Mar 9, 2007 -> 09:04 AM)
This is another part of this story I just saw on MLBtraderumors, so TIFWIW of course but I would be pissed if MacDougal is included in this deal.....

 

"Given that a Rowand for Scott Linebrink trade was seriously under consideration, I wonder if the Sox would have to surrender a closing-worthy reliever like Mike MacDougal to close the deal."

 

I wouldn't give that a second thought. It was a brainstorm, not an actual rumor.

 

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Mar 9, 2007 -> 09:07 AM)
I agree, so if the Sox are going to trade for an OF I think the should try for somone like Baldelli -- not Rowand. I like Aaron, but he really can't hit very well and I think the injuries are starting to take a toll on his defense. It seems like most PHI fans thought Victorino was better in CF last season. Rowand would end up platooning with Erstad, and I think he would be only a marginal improvement to the team. The Phillies wanted Linebrink for Rowand, so the Sox will have to give up a lot more than just Logan to get him. I think would have to be something like Logan and Haeger and I think that would be foolish. Jeez, just trading Logan for Rowand migt be foolish...

 

I am sure they have kicked the tires on Rocco more than once. I am guessing Tampa is still asking for the moon, and that is the reason a deal hasn't been done.

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QUOTE(quickman @ Mar 9, 2007 -> 07:42 AM)
Southsider, long time no talk, hope all is well, I don't post much anymore and if I do its only to certian folks,i just thought I needed to comment on this, Boone logan, andersen sweeney and just about every other minor league player we have Blows. We need a center fielder and the Sox love rowand and most likely he will sign with us for less money to play here. In addition, Boone Logan didn't exactly light he place up last year. furthermore anytime the sox start talking up one of there young players you know they are as good as gone. I would love to have rowand back, not because he is great just because he is way better than the crap we currently have. In addition maybe we can send gavin floyd back because he sucks too, he has no killer instinct. hope to see you around town or at the park sometime. take care.

 

You're the best, TQ. :cheers

 

Young baseball fans, listen to what this guy has to say.

 

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If Williams acquires Rowand, it's yet another indictment on our player development. We trade Rowand under the assumption Anderson is ready. We trade Young because he's expendable (or so we thought) with Anderson ready. Now we're interested in reacquiring him. Why? Because Anderson hasn't shown consistency. This doesn't take into account any off field issues, either.

 

It's not really even a point to argue, anymore. They obviously thought more of Anderson and haven't been impressed.

 

Personally, I feel Anderson should be our fulltime CF. If nothing else, atleast to determine -- without question -- whether he's capable of improving upon last season's statistics. Too bad Guillen doesn't feel this way. His Spring Training woes also don't help matters

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