Molto Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 http://www.soxnet.net/snreport/363-11.13.html I'll write more on it later guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 What do you guys think of this. We acquire Lidle for Lee, then go deal Wrigth, and a prospect as well as Hummell for Colon? That way we really solidify the rotation with Lidle replacing Wright and Colon stepping in giving us a huge plus. Me, I'd love it, and its the kind of sequence that would put us over the top. The thing is, I haven't seen the Sox pull 2 moves to solidify a team in a while, lol. The Angels brought in two pitchers and it was all it took. Colon is better then Sele and I think Lidle is just as good as Appier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Originally posted by ChisoxfnWhat do you guys think of this. We acquire Lidle for Lee, then go deal Wrigth, and a prospect as well as Hummell for Colon? That way we really solidify the rotation with Lidle replacing Wright and Colon stepping in giving us a huge plus. Me, I'd love it, and its the kind of sequence that would put us over the top. The thing is, I haven't seen the Sox pull 2 moves to solidify a team in a while, lol. The Angels brought in two pitchers and it was all it took. Colon is better then Sele and I think Lidle is just as good as Appier. my first reaction is if it gets lee out of LF im all for it...however..with the frank thomas situation still not resolved...the Klueless Wonder should tread lightly here...we might end up with niether thomas or lee for DH... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Originally posted by baggio202 Originally posted by ChisoxfnWhat do you guys think of this. We acquire Lidle for Lee, then go deal Wrigth, and a prospect as well as Hummell for Colon? That way we really solidify the rotation with Lidle replacing Wright and Colon stepping in giving us a huge plus. Me, I'd love it, and its the kind of sequence that would put us over the top. The thing is, I haven't seen the Sox pull 2 moves to solidify a team in a while, lol. The Angels brought in two pitchers and it was all it took. Colon is better then Sele and I think Lidle is just as good as Appier. my first reaction is if it gets lee out of LF im all for it...however..with the frank thomas situation still not resolved...the Klueless Wonder should tread lightly here...we might end up with niether thomas or lee for DH... I think you're giving KW too much credit to even think he's thought this far down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 I think the Sox pretty much are positive Thomas will be back and if thats the case they will move Lee for a pitcher either this year or at the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molto Posted November 13, 2002 Author Share Posted November 13, 2002 I have mixed opinions on this. from one point, it is a good deal. after all, if Lee stays (as well as Thomas) Lee will be batting 6-7 in the lineup. Lidle will be our #2/3 guy. who would you rather have a 6-7 hitter or #2/3 pitcher? obviously the pitcher. HOWEVER, we could do better for a #2 than Lidle. also, Lee is 25 and still very young. will Lee's offensive production for many more years be more valuable than Lidle's performances for 2-3 years? personally, I wouldn't mind this deal, just try to get some add ins in there. I doubt the A's will give us another guy, because they have the leverage based on Lidle's second half and our need for a starter, but perhaps each team can throw in guys of equal value in that the guys we give up, aren't too valuable to us. of course I can't think of anything as of this point. if this deal were to occur, we would HAVE to keep Thomas. if for some reason we don't, we better sign another guy (even a Ruben Sierra if needed). either way, Liefer goes to left and gets the PT he needs. he won't be great, but he can definitely be a power threat with 30 homers a year. then we hope Rowand can hold his own in center and decide which one to deal once Borchard is ready. either way, I think the Sox are gonna have to sign a backup left-handed hitting centerfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 I'd rather get someone other then Lidle to come in and be our three. I only like this move if we acquire Colon or someone else to also step into the rotation. Also, I am starting to think we may just need to sign a centerfielder as a backup plan. Its too bad Borchard isn't ready cause we could really use him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 ok with rowand out for a while whos going to play center??????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 I'm thinking Willie Harris and maybe just maybe if we also move Lee then Borchard will be up here to start the season and then eventually go down if he doens't really light it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 i dont know jas,.. we started off not looking too good and this is a set back ......if things keep going the way they are we arent going to be in any shape to do much of anything this season................ill predict 3rd place at best.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 I think we have a very good lineup and very good depth everywhere but pitching. If we can land a #1 starter and then another #3 starter then we will be set to compete, even if we have a whole in say left field because we moved Lee. Borchard isn't terrible neither is Liefer and they may not put up the numbers Lee did, but they will at least put up decent numbers to the fact that we'd be by far and away better off to have extra starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Lee for Lidle is a good move IMO. Borchard better quicken up his progress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Thats the way I see it. We have someone ready to step in For Lee or at least almost ready, but we don't have a real proven pitcher other then Buerhle and could use two more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molto Posted November 13, 2002 Author Share Posted November 13, 2002 since when is Rowand out? he'll be ready for spring training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 I read over his injuries and he has quite a few of them. I think we will know more after results are back from his surgery, but you never know what happens. I am counting on Aaron being their, but who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Great bring back a fresh from surgery, worse than before Rowand.:puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 I think Rowand is decent, but eventually he should move in and become our 4th outfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted November 14, 2002 Share Posted November 14, 2002 This rumor was is getting on my last nerve. It came up before the season and they would've made the deal already if it was there. Geez, Williams is spotted talking to Beane and this kind of s*** starts. Jason quit dreaming. They'll get one starter and one only. This isn't a major league team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 14, 2002 Share Posted November 14, 2002 Ian...I'm finally getting optimstic again and their you go trying to shoot me back down. Damn you realists!!!! By the way the band The Realist, really suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted November 14, 2002 Share Posted November 14, 2002 Originally posted by ChisoxfnIan...I'm finally getting optimstic again and their you go trying to shoot me back down. No, I'm just saying this rumor has been around for going on 13-14 months now. If the deal was there, he would've made it. Simple as that. If they do trade Lee, you just know he'll finally "get it" and start mashing in Oak-Town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 14, 2002 Share Posted November 14, 2002 I think he finally has figured it out. He's going to have a good year this season and I'd like to keep him here, at least for this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsSuck1 Posted November 14, 2002 Share Posted November 14, 2002 Yea, I also think Thomas will have a much better year in 2003. What some people don't realize is that when some players come back after a long injury such as Thomas, they need some time to get back in the swing of things after being out so long. I dont think many people were expecting tomas to be a realistic MVP candidate in 2000, but I'd say he did fairly well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 14, 2002 Share Posted November 14, 2002 I think the big thing that I noticed with Thomas was his main problem was simply reading a pitch. His bat speed was still their and when he made contact he was still ripping the ball. I think he started seeing the ball better as he adjusted, and even though it took him a while, we saw him have the big September and he kept looking better. I tend to agree he will have a big year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted November 14, 2002 Share Posted November 14, 2002 im ready to play.. yes.. let me take over the dh spot......the force is still with me...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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