VAfan Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 When this trade was made, I wondered why. And now that we've added other power arms for the bullpen and Aardsma is getting rocked, I am really wondering why. Cotts lost considerable luster last year, but he saved our butts at critical moments in our WS run. What has Aardsma ever done? The only time I've seen him pitch was the ST game against the Cubs this year, and he looked like the worst guy we trotted out that day (though Haeger had no control). Was this trade a big mistake? Discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 KW sold low on Cotts. For a young lefty reliever a year removed from a tremendous season, I thought we should have gotten more. Aardsma isn't a good pitcher, and I feel like Hendry sold KW on his performance to end the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Mar 13, 2007 -> 10:51 AM) KW sold low on Cotts. For a young lefty reliever a year removed from a tremendous season, I thought we should have gotten more. Aardsma isn't a good pitcher, and I feel like Hendry sold KW on his performance to end the season. Are you kidding? Cotts is absolute garbage. We traded a guy with no real stuff, who was just "fooling hitter" one year and picked up a guy with larger upside and a prospect. Garbage for garbage and our new garbage is better than theirs. I cant even believe anyone is upset about losing gascan cotts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 With the way Neal Cotts has looked... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 how has he looked with the cubs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retro1983hat Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 But Aaaaaarrrrrdsma might not even make the club this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 QUOTE(hi8is @ Mar 13, 2007 -> 11:00 AM) how has he looked with the cubs? Lousy. In 5 IP, given up 14 hits, 8 runs (4 earned), and only K'd 1. ERA 7.20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 thanks for 2005, sorry your on the cubs, i cant root for you =P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Cotts 7.20 era 5 IP 14 hits 4 er 8 runs 1k 0bb 1wp Aardsma 11.11 era 5.2 IP 11 hits 7 er 8 runs 4k 3bb I don't think anyone is "winning" this deal so far. Besides it is WAY too early for this stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Vasquez is the dark horse of the deal and may turn out to be the best arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 13, 2007 -> 10:04 AM) Cotts 7.20 era 5 IP 14 hits 4 er 8 runs 1k 0bb 1wp Aardsma 11.11 era 5.2 IP 11 hits 7 er 8 runs 4k 3bb I don't think anyone is "winning" this deal so far. Besides it is WAY too early for this stuff. Way, way, way way way way way way too early for this stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 QUOTE(jphat007 @ Mar 13, 2007 -> 11:07 AM) Way, way, way way way way way way too early for this stuff that too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 suddenly the Cubs are no longer talking about Cotts being their fifth starter. And aardsma has sent his jersey size numbers to the clubhouse guy in Charlotte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Famine Pestilence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 because he has a cool last name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 I'll give him more than half a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 anybody whose name is aardvark is cool with me. Also, his name comes very first on the alphabetical list of people who have ever played baseball. That distinction belongs to the SOX now!!! Free advertising! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 At their best, I'll take Cotts any day of the week. At their worst, I'll take Aardsma any day of the week. That's why KW traded Cotts for Aardsma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 (edited) To answer the question in this thread, we gave up on Cotts because even in the case of lefties, if your only pitch is a "sneaky" 90 to 92 MPH fastball, that's a bit of a problem. The Cotts/Aardsma trade will be remembered as crap for crap, and if all we could get was Mackowiak for Marte, Aardsma for Cotts is about right. People always overvalue players on their own team though, and you get threads like this. Heck, there are people who are silly enough to think we did bad in even the B-Mac trade somehow. Edited March 13, 2007 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 QUOTE(ScottyDo @ Mar 13, 2007 -> 01:01 PM) anybody whose name is aardvark is cool with me. Also, his name comes very first on the alphabetical list of people who have ever played baseball. That distinction belongs to the SOX now!!! Free advertising! Too bad he's not a locksmith or a company that boards up windows...although if he keeps pitching like this....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 But we should have gotten more....if for no other reason than he is "the handsome" Neal Cotts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Rowland Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 QUOTE(iamshack @ Mar 13, 2007 -> 12:15 PM) But we should have gotten more....if for no other reason than he is "the handsome" Neal Cotts! Great team marketing asset, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 QUOTE(Beltin @ Mar 13, 2007 -> 12:22 PM) Great team marketing asset, right? Well, until he opens his mouth and begins mumbling words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Spring Training is what it is, I will wait to judge him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 QUOTE(VAfan @ Mar 13, 2007 -> 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> When this trade was made, I wondered why. And now that we've added other power arms for the bullpen and Aardsma is getting rocked, I am really wondering why. Cotts lost considerable luster last year, but he saved our butts at critical moments in our WS run. What has Aardsma ever done? The only time I've seen him pitch was the ST game against the Cubs this year, and he looked like the worst guy we trotted out that day (though Haeger had no control). Was this trade a big mistake? Discuss. Cause Cotts sucks major a-s-s. Really, he does. He had one good season. He is gone and I really couldn't care any less about it. QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 13, 2007 -> 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> To answer the question in this thread, we gave up on Cotts because even in the case of lefties, if your only pitch is a "sneaky" 90 to 92 MPH fastball, that's a bit of a problem. The Cotts/Aardsma trade will be remembered as crap for crap, and if all we could get was Mackowiak for Marte, Aardsma for Cotts is about right. People always overvalue players on their own team though, and you get threads like this. Heck, there are people who are silly enough to think we did bad in even the B-Mac trade somehow. Mackowiak for Marte was an awesome trade for the Sox. I would take a utility player with the capability of Macks any day over a nothing pitcher like Marte. I still can't believe we got Mack for Marte. That is just ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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