Capn12 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Oh great... Scott Podsednik is scheduled to make his first spring appearance, exactly one week ahead of his projected schedule to return to the field as he continues to physically rehabilitate from offseason sports hernia surgery. Podsednik will also play in a Minor League game on Thursday and will play in his first Cactus League game on Friday, against the Cubs at Tucson Electric Park. Manager Ozzie Guillen views his leadoff man's quick return with cautious optimism. IF, and its a big if, Pods is ready to go in the 1st or 2nd week of the season, I'm almost guaranteeing we're gonna see a STELLAR outfield of Pods/Erstad/Dye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Yeah I get the feeling no matter what BA does he will either be in AAA or traded. You will more than likely see as Capn said Pods/Erstad/Dye with Terrero as the 4th OF.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Mar 14, 2007 -> 06:32 AM) I feel dumb for not really realizing it, but after seeing that quote last night, Anderson really does have very little chance of making the 25 man roster. Podsednik is obviously going to start if he is healthy. That is a given with Guillen. It has also be predetermined that Erstad automatically has a starting spot on this team, and it doesn't matter where it is. It just so happens there is a semi-opening in CF, and even if Erstad only has 27 games in CF since 2003, the spot is his. Its also clear by the quotes that Ozzie wants no part of Anderson on the bench, because "it's not fair to Brian" Once again, the day I turn on the game, and see an OF of Podsednik-Terrero-Dye, is the day I truly realize Williams f***ed up big time with the OF situation. Isn't Terrero a solid defender? Or is that incorrect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 QUOTE(jphat007 @ Mar 14, 2007 -> 09:04 AM) Isn't Terrero a solid defender? Or is that incorrect? Yes, Terrero is a pretty decent fielder and has a good arm. He is probably close to Rowand but not as good as Anderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Mar 14, 2007 -> 09:32 AM) I feel dumb for not really realizing it, but after seeing that quote last night, Anderson really does have very little chance of making the 25 man roster. Podsednik is obviously going to start if he is healthy. That is a given with Guillen. It has also be predetermined that Erstad automatically has a starting spot on this team, and it doesn't matter where it is. It just so happens there is a semi-opening in CF, and even if Erstad only has 27 games in CF since 2003, the spot is his. Its also clear by the quotes that Ozzie wants no part of Anderson on the bench, because "it's not fair to Brian" Once again, the day I turn on the game, and see an OF of Podsednik-Terrero-Dye, is the day I truly realize Williams f***ed up big time with the OF situation. At least nobody's questioning Dye! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 As one of Pods biggest fans, horray! If he can bounce back to 2005 or 2003 levels, as the uneven year says he should -- all is well. Every uneven year, Pods does well. 2003 - did good. 2004 - tanked. 2005 - did good. 2006 - tanked. 2007 - ? to all who love pods. to all who love Brian "I think I'm the second coming" Anderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 as long as Rob Mack isnt in the outfield i'm cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Mar 14, 2007 -> 09:05 AM) as long as Rob Mack isnt in the outfield i'm cool. And Osuna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 As one of Pods biggest fans, horray! If he can bounce back to 2005 or 2003 levels, as the uneven year says he should -- all is well. Every uneven year, Pods does well. 2003 - did good. 2004 - tanked. 2005 - did good. 2006 - tanked. 2007 - ? to all who love pods. to all who love Brian "I think I'm the second coming" Anderson. Problem is, even in a good year, Pods can't hold BA's jockstrap in terms of defense. I'd rather trot Erstad out there in LF everyday, have Mack rotate in LF when Erstad is hurt or needs a day off, and leave the other 2 OF slots alone with BA and Dye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(Capn12 @ Mar 14, 2007 -> 09:21 AM) Problem is, even in a good year, Pods can't hold BA's jockstrap in terms of defense. I'd rather trot Erstad out there in LF everyday, have Mack rotate in LF when Erstad is hurt or needs a day off, and leave the other 2 OF slots alone with BA and Dye. I love how everyone just assumes Erstad is going to get hurt again. Didn't everyone in baseball just assume Dye would keep getting hurt, too?! How soon we forget that the only reason we picked up Dye for such a bargin price is because everyone just assumed he'd get injured again. Instead...KW walked away laughing with the best/cheapest free agent signing of the last five years, IMO. Oh, and he helped us win a title. Edited March 14, 2007 by Y2HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 (edited) I don't think we're ever going to develop young players again with Ozzie around. Edited March 14, 2007 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Mar 14, 2007 -> 09:35 AM) I don't think we're ever going to develop young players again with Ozzie around. He is the long lost step-brother of Dusty Baker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 I'm not assuming he is going to get hurt. But I AM assuming he'll need days off, thats what we have Mack for. What I am saying is, Dye defensively is about average, not stellar. Erstad's defense isn't what it used to be. I'm sure it will be solid, but obviously not what it was in his prime Angels days. Therefore, we need a CFer..a REAL CFer, that can play the gaps, throw the glove around. I don't care if BA hits only .250, its worth it to me, to have a CFer that you KNOW will go get almost anything hit to him. An outfield of Erstad/Pods/Dye isn't going to run anything down in the gaps. Everyone knows that Pods defensively is marginal at best. With that combo in the OF, we will struggle defensively, period. Pods has no real place on this team IMO anymore, but because he is one of Ozzies boys, he'll be out there everyday, showing that fantastic defense we've grown weary of from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Mar 14, 2007 -> 10:05 AM) as long as Rob Mack isnt in the outfield i'm cool. Mack's a good option in the corners of the OF, but Ozzie wasn't smart enough to realize this last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Right. Ozzie Guillen just hates young players. See: Ryan Sweeney, Jon Garland, Danks, Boone Logan who he gave a great chance to last year. Anderson probably belongs in AAA for another half-season. I don't see how some of you don't see that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Mar 14, 2007 -> 11:04 AM) Right. Ozzie Guillen just hates young players. See: Ryan Sweeney, Jon Garland, Danks, Boone Logan who he gave a great chance to last year. Anderson probably belongs in AAA for another half-season. I don't see how some of you don't see that. Well lets see....Garland was a starting pitcher for us for 3.5 seasons before Guillen was named manager.. Sweeney has absolutely no shot at making this team Danks, well what choice does Ozzie have as the 5th starter? Its either a young, more talented Danks or a young but unproven, wild Floyd. Logan...well when someone pitches like he did in ST, and there aren't many other options that are plausible, thats what happens. Besides, I don't see anyone blaming it on Ozzie not playing BA because he is young. Ozzie isn't going to play BA because BA isn't one of Guillen's boys, thats pretty obvious. Name a better option for CF that this team has, right now, than Brian Anderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Mar 14, 2007 -> 10:04 AM) See: Ryan Sweeney, Jon Garland, Danks, Boone Logan who he gave a great chance to last year. Other than Boone early last year I don't see your point. Garland has been on this team for several years. I don't consider him a young player. We just got Danks. Ryan Sweeney played in mop up time last year. Heck, Boone was on this team in April because we had no bullpen depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 QUOTE(Capn12 @ Mar 14, 2007 -> 09:10 AM) Well lets see....Garland was a starting pitcher for us for 3.5 seasons before Guillen was named manager.. Sweeney has absolutely no shot at making this team Danks, well what choice does Ozzie have as the 5th starter? Its either a young, more talented Danks or a young but unproven, wild Floyd. Logan...well when someone pitches like he did in ST, and there aren't many other options that are plausible, thats what happens. Besides, I don't see anyone blaming it on Ozzie not playing BA because he is young. Ozzie isn't going to play BA because BA isn't one of Guillen's boys, thats pretty obvious. Name a better option for CF that this team has, right now, than Brian Anderson. Just like Freddy Garcia was Guillen's boy? That didn't stop him from getting shipped off, though many thought it would. I don't think it's obvious at all that Ozzie isn't going to play BA because he isn't his 'boy'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 QUOTE(jphat007 @ Mar 14, 2007 -> 10:21 AM) Just like Freddy Garcia was Guillen's boy? That didn't stop him from getting shipped off, though many thought it would. I don't think it's obvious at all that Ozzie isn't going to play BA because he isn't his 'boy'. Well Ross Gload wasnt one of Ozzie's boys. And in 2005 when Ross was hitting up a storm in AAA, we needed a backup 1st baseman and a DH for a bit. But Ozzie refused to have him brought up, and used Timo Perez as a DH and a 1st baseman even. Timo was probably one of the worst hitters in all of baseball that year, and we rolled into Yankee stadium with that as our leadoff hitter, with that as a DH also. Ozzie's boys seem to get an overwhelming opportunity even though they dont deserve it all the time. If you tell me Pods deserved to play LF late last year over Mackowiak and I would ask what you are smoking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernuke Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Mar 14, 2007 -> 10:13 AM) Ryan Sweeney has 35 AB's in the majors Garland had 569 major league innings logged when Ozzie got here. He was young, but a veteran. Danks has never logged a major league inning. Logan was up here because are other options sucked. And he didn't last long. If your going to defend Ozzie, fine. But at least use better examples. Bobby Jenks Joe Crede Juan Uribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 QUOTE(jphat007 @ Mar 14, 2007 -> 11:21 AM) Just like Freddy Garcia was Guillen's boy? That didn't stop him from getting shipped off, though many thought it would. I don't think it's obvious at all that Ozzie isn't going to play BA because he isn't his 'boy'. BA also isn't in a contract year, nor is he gonna fetch someone in a trade that KW drools over either. Saying its because BA isnt Guillen's boy is just my way of saying once you have even the smallest rift between Guillen and a player, all you hear about is that guy amidst trade rumors, etc. To say Guillen is a BA supporter, beyond what he has to be as the ballclubs manager, is a big stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 QUOTE(supernuke @ Mar 14, 2007 -> 10:25 AM) Bobby Jenks Joe Crede Juan Uribe Crede and Uribe were vets. Jenks is the only example that would stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(supernuke @ Mar 14, 2007 -> 10:25 AM) Bobby Jenks Joe Crede Juan Uribe Joe and Juan are veterans. Why don't you site Jim Thome as an example while you're at it. Edited March 14, 2007 by BigSqwert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Mar 14, 2007 -> 10:04 AM) Right. Ozzie Guillen just hates young players. See: Ryan Sweeney, Jon Garland, Danks, Boone Logan who he gave a great chance to last year. Anderson probably belongs in AAA for another half-season. I don't see how some of you don't see that. Anderson belongs in CF. CF defense is more important then CF offense on this team. I don't see how you don't see that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernuke Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Mar 14, 2007 -> 10:26 AM) Joe and Juan are veterans. Why don't you site Jim Thome as an example while you're at it. Both Crede and Uribe were playing their second full season's in Ozzie's first year as Manager. Hardly Veterans yet both were given chances to play everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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