Jimbo's Drinker Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 He's a horrific coach.....terrible hire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Mar 19, 2007 -> 12:56 AM) He's a horrific coach.....terrible hire. His resume, outside of the very end at Colorado, really says that your full of s*** on this one. I'm normally pessimistic about NIU since i'm on campus and see all the bad (lol), but everybody loved the Judson hiring (and Patton is 5 times better than Judson even if your right about Patton) and we saw how that went. Phillips last hire for basketball here has worked out really well on the women's side, so I'll wait and see. If he can get the people out of the public league we should be getting (a la Kevin Johnson and Tim Flowers from Simeon), he'll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 19, 2007 -> 07:03 AM) His resume, outside of the very end at Colorado, really says that your full of s*** on this one. I'm normally pessimistic about NIU since i'm on campus and see all the bad (lol), but everybody loved the Judson hiring (and Patton is 5 times better than Judson even if your right about Patton) and we saw how that went. Phillips last hire for basketball here has worked out really well on the women's side, so I'll wait and see. If he can get the people out of the public league we should be getting (a la Kevin Johnson and Tim Flowers from Simeon), he'll be fine. Things got horrible for Ricardo at Colorado. His teams are very poorly coached, as his teams always underperformed compared to the talent he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 19, 2007 -> 02:03 AM) His resume, outside of the very end at Colorado, really says that your full of s*** on this one. I'm normally pessimistic about NIU since i'm on campus and see all the bad (lol), but everybody loved the Judson hiring (and Patton is 5 times better than Judson even if your right about Patton) and we saw how that went. Phillips last hire for basketball here has worked out really well on the women's side, so I'll wait and see. If he can get the people out of the public league we should be getting (a la Kevin Johnson and Tim Flowers from Simeon), he'll be fine. I'm not sure what to think about this hire. They said they would go after an experienced coach and they did. I prefered Gillen, and I wouldn't have a problem with an assistant. McClain would be a good fit (except for the rumor in the Jamar Smith incident) and I would have liked Collins (He could very well land the ISU job). Colorado is a tough place to win at, and as you said we need to be getting the public leaguers. It will be interesting to see if anybody transfers, although IMO the only one that would really hurt is Yelder. Hopefully House still shows up as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 This just in from the department of who gives a s***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Mar 19, 2007 -> 01:41 PM) I'm not sure what to think about this hire. They said they would go after an experienced coach and they did. I prefered Gillen, and I wouldn't have a problem with an assistant. McClain would be a good fit (except for the rumor in the Jamar Smith incident) and I would have liked Collins (He could very well land the ISU job). Colorado is a tough place to win at, and as you said we need to be getting the public leaguers. It will be interesting to see if anybody transfers, although IMO the only one that would really hurt is Yelder. Hopefully House still shows up as well. Collins IMO would have been a bad hire since in 3 years he would have gone on to a bigger job after probably only having 1, maybe 2 good years here. I can see why people liked Gillen, but he has a good TV gig on CSTV, is in his early 60's, and would have been expensive (he made almost a million per his last 2 years at Virginia). I was personally on the Gene Cross bandwagon, but I think Patton was adequate at Colorado considering the only top 100 player there the last 5 years was Bouldin, so he obviously had nothing to work with in state, and he was in a tough league at a traditionally poor program. He has 5 open schollies for the 2008 recruiting class he'll sign this November, so I'll wait and see how he does in that regard. This is a ballsy hire though, it could be really good or very poor, but I can see Phillips thought process in doing it. QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Mar 19, 2007 -> 01:50 PM) This just in from the department of who gives a s***. Patton will probably take some of Bruce's mid major recruits, so it does matter. Things got horrible for Ricardo at Colorado. His teams are very poorly coached, as his teams always underperformed compared to the talent he has. Your right about his last year there, but he had just lost 8 seniors, including 4 or 5 (i forget which it was) starters and went into his last year as a lame duck coach. I can see why things might not have gone too well regardless of what kind of coach he is. As for him underperforming compared to talent....I'm not sure what Colorado program YOU have been following, but I'm almost more interested to see how he recruits than how he coaches. Edited March 19, 2007 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted March 19, 2007 Author Share Posted March 19, 2007 agreed, patton does get quality players and he may be able to work his own pipeline into chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 QUOTE(Jimbo @ Mar 19, 2007 -> 02:36 PM) agreed, patton does get quality players and he may be able to work his own pipeline into chicago. That's what they thought Judson would do... hopefully Patton does much better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 19, 2007 -> 01:51 PM) Patton will probably take some of Bruce's mid major recruits, so it does matter. I didn't even know Northern Illinois had a basketball team. The Northern Illinois Huskies aren't even a blip on the radar. Get real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 19, 2007 -> 06:51 PM) Patton will probably take some of Bruce's mid major recruits, so it does matter. Your right about his last year there, but he had just lost 8 seniors, including 4 or 5 (i forget which it was) starters and went into his last year as a lame duck coach. I can see why things might not have gone too well regardless of what kind of coach he is. As for him underperforming compared to talent....I'm not sure what Colorado program YOU have been following, but I'm almost more interested to see how he recruits than how he coaches. He had some quality players on his roster last year, but they played no defense at all. Roby is a big-time talent who seems to have regressed. There were some very skilled players like Chris Copeland who never put it all together on the court. As you said thought, anything is better than Judson. When I was there a few years ago, his players absolutely hated him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Mar 19, 2007 -> 03:21 PM) He had some quality players on his roster last year, but they played no defense at all. Roby is a big-time talent who seems to have regressed. There were some very skilled players like Chris Copeland who never put it all together on the court. As you said thought, anything is better than Judson. When I was there a few years ago, his players absolutely hated him. Supposedly that was still the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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