caulfield12 Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 (edited) http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10096564 Ooops, I meant Scott Miller! Edited March 30, 2007 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 We have not done anything to merit a high ranking in our division, so these rankings are fair. Plus, it is so much better being the hunters, not the hunted. This season is very similar to the 2005, at least the negativity. Not saying we are gonna win the world series, but the pre-season negativity is similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 QUOTE(caulfield12 @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 12:12 PM) http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10096564 Ooops, I meant Scott Miller! That's rather ironic considering that Kenny Willliams was telling him in that recent interview that the national guys are getting the White Sox plan, and the locals aren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 He also picked Randy Johnson to win the Cy Young in the NL because he had 17 wins last season. Some great logic there Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 At Yahoo Sports, Passan has the Sox 4th in the AL Central at 78-84 and Brown has them tied for 3rd at 85-77. Brown also picks Konerko as his AL MVP and Erstad as the AL Comeback Player. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AiLb...o&type=lgns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 30, 2007 Author Share Posted March 30, 2007 QUOTE(spiderman @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 12:16 PM) That's rather ironic considering that Kenny Willliams was telling him in that recent interview that the national guys are getting the White Sox plan, and the locals aren't. I think it's different understanding intellectually/philosphically where an organization or GM is coming from AND still picking them 4th THIS season, and, as everyone has noted, there's such a slight differentiation between the top four teams in the division. Next year or the year after, the moves will make a lot more sense (or not), like the Sox trading Lee for Pods and letting Ordonez and Valentin go, allocating that money to pay 8 other players that helped lead us to a championship. If at least two of those pitchers (Floyd, Gio, Danks, Masset, Rasner) make a lasting impact, then KW will look pretty smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoota Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Detroit and KC bread the division, so I can't argue with the Sox predicted anywhere from 2nd-4th place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 I expect Detroit to be good, but I still look at their record in the 2nd half, 40-41, and think this team had a lot of things go their way in the first half. We know what that's like. And we also know it doesn't always go your way two years in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSoxFan Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 I love it! Just where I want to be: fourth. Fine with me. Hell, make us 5th for all I care. At least the pressure's off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 01:30 PM) I expect Detroit to be good, but I still look at their record in the 2nd half, 40-41, and think this team had a lot of things go their way in the first half. We know what that's like. And we also know it doesn't always go your way two years in a row.They were even worse from August 1st on (25-32). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 QUOTE(caulfield12 @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 11:12 AM) http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10096564 Ooops, I meant Scott Miller! I'm glad these meatheads are picking us 4th. I hope every one of the articles is going up on a bulletin board in the locker room. I haven't seen any one of these with anything resembling a reasonable analysis. They just follow what they see. Sox picked 4th in '05- win the World Series. So they pick the Sox 1st in '06-good but not great 90 win season. Tigers go to the World Series. They get picked 1st or second. Minnesota goes to the playoffs- they get picked in the top 3. You can't reasonably say that Minnesota has a better rotation than anyone but KC. Ponson? Silva? Perkins, Bonser? Are they likely better than anyone but Danks in our rotation? They've got an Ace and 4 4-5s who have to pitch they other 130 games. So they're the "teams to beat" until the "surprising" White Sox show up, with their success being attributed likely to old small-balls Guillen and Erstad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 12:34 PM) I love it! Just where I want to be: fourth. Fine with me. Hell, make us 5th for all I care. At least the pressure's off. So am I the only one that doesn't buy this at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alk3kevin Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 I tend to think we're picked fourth because we suck. I'd rather be a good team and have people acknowledge that fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Scott Miller dosen't know his head from his ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 QUOTE(Craig Grebeck @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 11:57 AM) I tend to think we're picked fourth because we suck. I'd rather be a good team and have people acknowledge that fact. We suck? Have we warped into May some how and are 15 games under .500? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(Kalapse @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 11:51 AM) So am I the only one that doesn't buy this at all? No, you're not. I don't know how the pressure is off. Sure, it may be off in the beginning of the season; but if we're in contention no one is going to surprised. I'll sure as hell guarantee anyone that the pressure will mount if we're struggling out of the gate. Even with varying opinions on our success from fans, Williams isn't treating this season as a rebuilding effort. He'll be justly criticized for our failures. A major league ballclub configured specifically for contention shouldn't need bulletin board material from baseball writers selecting them for 3th or 4th place. Only motivation necessary is winning, and perhaps earning themselves a large payday further down the road. Edited March 30, 2007 by Flash Tizzle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 03:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, you're not. I don't know how the pressure is off. Sure, it may be off in the beginning of the season; but if we're in contention no one is going to surprised. I'll sure as hell guarantee anyone that the pressure will mount if we're struggling out of the gate. Even with varying opinions on our success from fans, Williams isn't treating this season as a rebuilding effort. He'll be justly criticized for our failures. A major league ballclub configured specifically for contention shouldn't need bulletin board material from baseball writers selecting them for 3th or 4th place. Only motivation necessary is winning, and perhaps earning themselves a large payday further down the road. If you are a good team and you expect your team to win then the pressure is always on to win. You place that pressure on yourself. It is when you are on an awful team and you know it that there is no pressure to what you do or your team does. I suspect that everyone on this team expects to win and beleives they have a good team. If that is so, then the pressure is there for them to win. The pressure doesn't come from the media. This is a good team. Most, if not all, writers do not get a chance to see every team play. There is no way that they could possibly make a fair assessment of all the teams in the league, which is why they are almost always wrong. They get their opinions from listening to other people's opinions and then come up with their own. There is no reason to think these "experts" know any more than a good baseball fan and there is no reason a good baseball fan should care that much about what these "experts" have to say about their favorite team. It makes for good conversation and debate, but that is about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Woody Paige also said the twins have the best pitching in the division Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 03:49 PM) Woody Paige also said the twins have the best pitching in the division Wow. I almost spit out my soft drink as I read that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 01:50 PM) Wow. I almost spit out my soft drink as I read that. It's the classic "Give 1 guy a 15 second head start and see if everyone else can catch up" scenario. Santana + Nathan. It's simply impossible to have a bad pitching staff with that. It's always going to at least be decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 03:51 PM) It's the classic "Give 1 guy a 15 second head start and see if everyone else can catch up" scenario. Santana + Nathan. It's simply impossible to have a bad pitching staff with that. It's always going to at least be decent. + Neshek + Rincon + Guerrier the rest is pure dogs*** or unproven young talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 I have a feeling Detroit is going to stumble this year. More worried about cleveland having a bounce back year. i'm optimistic on the White Sox chances of taking the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 They have the best pitcher in baseball, the mvp, and a great closer, so they have to be the best in their division! That sort of logic may work in basketball with 5 starters logging most of the minutes, but I just don't see how sports people are applying it to baseball where you have to be solid and deep in so many other positions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 How does Cleveland consistently get ranked high every year, yet every year they fall flat on their faces? Maybe they should put it together for an entire season before anyone runs for the hills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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