WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 C-Wiki Gonzalez 1B-Rogowski 2B-Lopez SS-Andy Gonzalez 3B-Fields DH-Young LF-Owens CF-Terrero RF-Sweeney SP-Floyd SP-Haeger SP-Broadway SP-Phillips SP-Malone This is what it should be. Starting pitchers in no order. Spivey should get a lot of time at 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Via the Tribune The rotation at Triple-A Charlotte will consist of Gavin Floyd, Heath Phillips, Charlie Haeger, Lance Broadway and Vladimir Nunez. The Knights open their 2007 season Thursday against Pawtucket. Ryan Sweeney will play center, with Jerry Owens in left and Luis Terrero in right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Well, it would seem Sweeney and Terrero should be switched, but hey, what do I know, Sweeney is a natural RF and Terrero is a natural CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Spencer Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Apr 3, 2007 -> 04:52 PM) C-Wiki Gonzalez 1B-Rogowski 2B-Lopez SS-Andy Gonzalez 3B-Fields DH-Young LF-Owens CF-Terrero RF-Sweeney SP-Floyd SP-Haeger SP-Broadway SP-Phillips SP-Malone This is what it should be. Starting pitchers in no order. Spivey should get a lot of time at 2nd. Man, our JV team looks pretty good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 I remember when Corwin Malone was going to be the next stud, it'd be nice to see him have a great year this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 This is the roster according to knights.com... http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/st...ue&sid=t494 I don't see Spivey on that list, but I am pretty sure he was assigned to AAA. If he was, that means there would be 28 guys on the roster. You can have more then 25 on a minor league roster, right? Actually, I don't know, could someone clearify that for me? Now, if the info Balta gave us is correct, and Nunez will start, that means Malone will likely be in the pen, which right now seems like the best possibility for him, with the log jam at starting pitching prospects, but the constant needs of good lefties out of the pen, either for trade or the team. I'd say right now the lineup, rotation, bullpen will look something like this... Rotation (thanks to Balta): Floyd, Phillips, Haeger, Broadway, Nunez Bullpen: Logan (cl), Malone, Fields, Pollock, Lubisich, Reynoso, Bukvich, Wassermann, Babula, Prinz (2-3 of these guys might need to go however, to make room for the roster) Lineup: 1. Owens, LF 2. Terrero, RF (Should be CF, IMO) 3. Fields, 3B 4. Sweeney, CF (should be RF, IMO) 5. Rogowski, 1B 6. Young (DH) 7. A. Gonzalez, SS 8. W. Gonzalez, C 9. Pedro Lopez, 2B Bench: Perez, Kelly, Smith, Spivey (?) Some guys I think we could see being promoted to AAA are (in no particular order): Adam Russell, Oneli Perez, Jack Egbert, Dewon Day, Gio Gonzalez, Donny Lucy, Chris Getz, Robert Valido Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Spencer Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Lineup: 1. Owens, LF 2. Terrero, RF (Should be CF, IMO) 3. Fields, 3B 4. Sweeney, CF (should be RF, IMO) 5. Rogowski, 1B 6. Young (DH) 7. A. Gonzalez, SS 8. W. Gonzalez, C 9. Pedro Lopez, 2B Tonights Lineup: 1. Owens, LF 2. Lopez, 2B 3. Rogowski, 1B 4. Fields, 3B 5. Young, DH 6. Sweeney, CF 7.Gonzalez, SS 8. Terrero, RF 9. W. Gonzalez, C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Sweeney is said to be the future 3 hitter for the White Sox, and is better then Rogowski... he should be batting higher up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 QUOTE(BearSox @ Apr 5, 2007 -> 08:23 PM) Sweeney is said to be the future 3 hitter for the White Sox He is? Pass me what you are smoking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 QUOTE(BearSox @ Apr 5, 2007 -> 08:23 PM) Sweeney is said to be the future 3 hitter for the White Sox, and is better then Rogowski... he should be batting higher up. He's better than Rogo, but he sure isn't a future three hitter. BTW, don't forget, guys are probably on the DL on that roster. Probably Lubs, for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 I just talked to the Charlotte media guy, Charlotte's DL includes Lubisich, Fields and Prinz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 The White Sox indeed see Sweeney as their future no. 3 hitter. If he develops his power, he can become a 25-30 homer guy, plus he has decent speed which is good for the 3-hole, and is a good average guy as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 QUOTE(BearSox @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 11:17 AM) The White Sox indeed see Sweeney as their future no. 3 hitter. If he develops his power, he can become a 25-30 homer guy, plus he has decent speed which is good for the 3-hole, and is a good average guy as well. His skillset probably projects to the two hole or somewhere like 6th/7th with what he's got now. He's shown, well, not a whole lot in the bandbox in Charlotte. I'm not on high on Sweeney as most, because while he can hit for average, we need him in a power position as he projects right now to right field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 QUOTE(BearSox @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 09:17 AM) The White Sox indeed see Sweeney as their future no. 3 hitter. If he develops his power, he can become a 25-30 homer guy, plus he has decent speed which is good for the 3-hole, and is a good average guy as well. I'm going to agree on this...if both of them hit their top levels...Anderson and Sweeney would make an ideal 2-3 combo for about 8 years. But the question of course remains whether or not both of them will top out. Sweeney's only missing a little bit of power stroke right now...Anderson needs to cut down on the k's and you know...play baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 The concern about Sweeney is that he'll be Sean Borroughs.....fact is his K numbers keep rising in the minors as well. Sweeney's best case scenario is as a three hitter, but he's not projecting there right now. I will add that Sweeney is still very young, so he still has time to develop, but he's certainly not "can't miss", and there's nothing to suggest he'll ever hit for more than 15-20 home runs in a season in the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 10:22 AM) He's better than Rogo, but he sure isn't a future three hitter. BTW, don't forget, guys are probably on the DL on that roster. Probably Lubs, for one. I see him as a #2 guy myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 I'm actually projecting a breakout year for Sweeney in the minors this year. He is 21-22 now, and his body is probably almost fully developed. He showed good power in the second half of last season, and I hope that will carry over to this year. And I, like Hawk and many more, think he will indeed become a 25-30 homer guy in the majors. But, like you said, that is only if he lives up to his potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 11:51 AM) I see him as a #2 guy myself. Both him and Anderson, actually, unless Anderson can develop some of his power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 11:21 AM) His skillset probably projects to the two hole or somewhere like 6th/7th with what he's got now. He's shown, well, not a whole lot in the bandbox in Charlotte. I'm not on high on Sweeney as most, because while he can hit for average, we need him in a power position as he projects right now to right field. Probably why they have him in CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Ultimately this is a make or break year for Sweeney. He has always been very young for the league he has played in. This year he will be repeating AAA so he will have experience at the level and won't be one of the youngest players in the league anymore, though still on the young end. If he repeats last year I think you can write him off as a power hitter of any sort in his career. I'm not saying he won't be able to hit near 300 in the bigs, but I severely doubt he will ever hit for power. I'm one of the hardest on Sweeney, but I still expect him to hit over 300 this year in AAA and develop into a solid defensive OFer that can hit around 280-290 with a respectable on base, but little power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 QUOTE(danman31 @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 07:42 PM) Ultimately this is a make or break year for Sweeney. He has always been very young for the league he has played in. This year he will be repeating AAA so he will have experience at the level and won't be one of the youngest players in the league anymore, though still on the young end. If he repeats last year I think you can write him off as a power hitter of any sort in his career. I'm not saying he won't be able to hit near 300 in the bigs, but I severely doubt he will ever hit for power. I'm one of the hardest on Sweeney, but I still expect him to hit over 300 this year in AAA and develop into a solid defensive OFer that can hit around 280-290 with a respectable on base, but little power. It's tough to see Sweeney ever becoming a 'star' at the plate. He'd have to make a pretty big leap in his power for that to happen. It will be interesting to see if his power surge in the second half of last year is for real. If he comes out this year and hits .300/.350/.500, that will be very encouraging (although some will probably be due to the fact that he's hitting in Charlotte). I still can't see Sweeney ever being more than a very good player, though. What are Sweeney's prospects in centerfield? I know that he's better suited for RF, but do you guys think he could play an average CF if given the chance? His value goes up quite a bit if he could stick in CF, although that would mean moving Anderson to the corners, and I'm not sure that he has the power to stick in one of the corners. Either way, I'd love to see a scenario in which Fields (LF), Sweeney and Anderson are all in starting spots next year for the Sox, although that would mean that the Sox would have to bring in a big time free agent (A-Rod for third?) because it's going to take some time for the three to adjust to the big league level (Anderson included). (Sorry for the run-on.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 He's average in CF but his arm is suited for right. Brian is still by far the best defensive CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 02:56 PM) If he comes out this year and hits .300/.350/.500, that will be very encouraging (although some will probably be due to the fact that he's hitting in Charlotte). What are Sweeney's prospects in centerfield? I know that he's better suited for RF, but do you guys think he could play an average CF if given the chance? His value goes up quite a bit if he could stick in CF, although that would mean moving Anderson to the corners, and I'm not sure that he has the power to stick in one of the corners. Considering Sweeney hit .296/.350/.452 last year, .300/.350/.500 wouldn't be much of an upgrade. I'm hoping for him to hit higher than .310 just to show notable improvement. While, your season would be far from a disappointment I'm hoping more for something like .312/.370/.500. Granted, those are somewhat high expectations that is what I want to see to give me hope for him being a 300+ hitter with 15 HR power. I don't see why Sweeney would push Anderson out of center. That makes 0 sense. So what if our RF doesn't hit for power? As long as the lineup makes up for the power elsewhere I don't care where they play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 QUOTE(danman31 @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 10:21 PM) Considering Sweeney hit .296/.350/.452 last year, .300/.350/.500 wouldn't be much of an upgrade. I'm hoping for him to hit higher than .310 just to show notable improvement. While, your season would be far from a disappointment I'm hoping more for something like .312/.370/.500. Granted, those are somewhat high expectations that is what I want to see to give me hope for him being a 300+ hitter with 15 HR power. I don't see why Sweeney would push Anderson out of center. That makes 0 sense. So what if our RF doesn't hit for power? As long as the lineup makes up for the power elsewhere I don't care where they play. My .300/.350/.500 line is a little conservative -- I agree. Hopefully if his power surge from the second half of last season is for real, pitchers will start to be a little more careful with him and he can get that OBP closer to .380. I would think that the increase in SLG% and the increase in OBP would come hand-in-hand, but I guess we shall see. My CF/RF comment about Sweeney was more about 'value' than anything. You can find guys in free agency who can put up good numbers on the corners, but it's a lot harder to find CFers who are average. If Anderson ends up sticking, no question that you could just put Sweeney in RF and be done with it. That's actually what I'm hoping for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 08:22 AM) He's better than Rogo, but he sure isn't a future three hitter. BTW, don't forget, guys are probably on the DL on that roster. Probably Lubs, for one. Long Term I think most scouts you'd talk to would put Sweeney in the 3 hole. The key is whether he learns to start to drive the inside pitch and with that you'll see his extra base hits (and hr's) take off. However, if he doesn't, than you are probably talking about Sweeney as a two hole hitter. QUOTE(Heads22 @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 09:21 AM) His skillset probably projects to the two hole or somewhere like 6th/7th with what he's got now. He's shown, well, not a whole lot in the bandbox in Charlotte. I'm not on high on Sweeney as most, because while he can hit for average, we need him in a power position as he projects right now to right field. Sweeney is a plus right fielder or left fielder and is at least an average center fielder (especially with a bit more playing time out there). If we put him in left I'm not as concerned about his power simply because the Sox haven't had any power there for a long time and with all the power they have in the infield and the rest of the lineup you can get away with not having power in left. And I admit, Sweeney gets talked up a lot more than his stats would indicate but its because of his feel for the game as well as his pure swing and natural tools (he has the strength and bat speed to hit for power, the swing to hit for an average, the speed to run, and he has a very nice arm). QUOTE(Heads22 @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 09:56 AM) Both him and Anderson, actually, unless Anderson can develop some of his power. Anderson will never hit for the average to be that high in the lineup. I think Anderson is a 6 hole hitter. The type of guy that will have a few seasons in the low .280s but most of the time he'll be in the low .270's with xtra bases, a s***load of k's and somewhere between 20-30 HR's. If he fails, he'll stick around the big leagues because he can play plus defense at all 3 positions and pinch run and do some other things. I don't really see an in between with Anderson. He either reaches that line or just fails miserably as a hitter. QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 12:56 PM) It's tough to see Sweeney ever becoming a 'star' at the plate. He'd have to make a pretty big leap in his power for that to happen. It will be interesting to see if his power surge in the second half of last year is for real. If he comes out this year and hits .300/.350/.500, that will be very encouraging (although some will probably be due to the fact that he's hitting in Charlotte). I still can't see Sweeney ever being more than a very good player, though. What are Sweeney's prospects in centerfield? I know that he's better suited for RF, but do you guys think he could play an average CF if given the chance? His value goes up quite a bit if he could stick in CF, although that would mean moving Anderson to the corners, and I'm not sure that he has the power to stick in one of the corners. Either way, I'd love to see a scenario in which Fields (LF), Sweeney and Anderson are all in starting spots next year for the Sox, although that would mean that the Sox would have to bring in a big time free agent (A-Rod for third?) because it's going to take some time for the three to adjust to the big league level (Anderson included). (Sorry for the run-on.) If those three guys are starting for the Sox I'd probably throw up...unless we have an infield with Arod, Konerko, Howie Kendrick, and Miguel Tejada with Joe Mauer behind the plate. I expect two of those three prospects to actually succeed with the Sox (but I'll admit, Josh Fields is really growing on me). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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