Heads22 Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 Kinda gross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jun 29, 2007 -> 07:06 PM) Kinda gross. Only you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 Everett can't do any worse than the hacks we've been trotting to the plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 Saw what Chris Rongey's girlfriend looks like yesterday, HOLY CRAP! There is hope for us schmucks in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 After playing volleyball at the beach all day yesterday we walked over to Chipotle on Rush Street. Jerry Reinsdorf walked past us. Was kind of cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jul 1, 2007 -> 08:19 AM) Anyone catch "The Show" on INHD? About the D'Backs, but a lot of Chris Young stuff in Tucson then making it to the majors. Good stuff. Ya, its a great show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jul 1, 2007 -> 10:19 AM) Anyone catch "The Show" on INHD? About the D'Backs, but a lot of Chris Young stuff in Tucson then making it to the majors. Good stuff. It's on every Wed at 9 I believe. I've recorded all (5?) weeks thus far. It's quite entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jul 1, 2007 -> 11:42 AM) After playing volleyball at the beach all day yesterday we walked over to Chipotle on Rush Street. Jerry Reinsdorf walked past us. Was kind of cool. Did he kick your dog or smother your baby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jul 1, 2007 -> 11:42 AM) After playing volleyball at the beach all day yesterday we walked over to Chipotle on Rush Street. Jerry Reinsdorf walked past us. Was kind of cool. Did you trade glances, or does he have a no-trade policy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 I don't know who decided that we should always, or ALMOST always hire someone only if they've played in the organization before, but that s*** has to stop, soon, because generally, we haven't been a particularly GREAT organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 10:16 PM) I think trading Jenks would be a good move. Not based on the fiasco tonight. Just becuase his stuff is steadily declining, the Sox won't compete in the next 3 years, and he would fetch a bunch in trade. Keeping him around serves no purpose. Jenks is not one of the best closers in the game, as some people on this board think. His ERA last year was 4.00 (not good for a closer), this year 3.21(not bad, but not very good for a closer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 10:18 PM) Jenks is not one of the best closers in the game, as some people on this board think. His ERA last year was 4.00 (not good for a closer), this year 3.21(not bad, but not very good for a closer). Actually, I would say that Bobby is one of the best "closers" in the game. You put him in a save situation and for the most part he gets it done. Kal, you're usually all over this stuff so where does his save percentage rank the last 2 seasons compared to others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 11:48 PM) Actually, I would say that Bobby is one of the best "closers" in the game. You put him in a save situation and for the most part he gets it done. Kal, you're usually all over this stuff so where does his save percentage rank the last 2 seasons compared to others? Saito: 46/49 | 93.88% Nathan: 52/56 | 92.86% K-Rod: 71/77 | 92.20% Hoffman: 69/76 | 90.78% Wagner: 56/62 | 90.32% Jenks: 63/70 | 90% Rivera: 44/49 | 89.80% Putz: 59/66 | 89.39% Papelbon: 54/61 | 88.52% Valverde: 44/51 | 86.27% T. Jones: 57/67 | 85.07% Ray: 47/56 | 83.93% Borowski: 60/72 | 83.33% C. Cordero: 43/53 | 81.13% Fuentes: 50/62 | 80.65% Isringhausen: 48/60 | 80% Dempster: 40/51 | 78.43% Street: 46/59 | 77.97% F. Cordero: 49/63 | 77.78% *IN ORDER TO QUALIFY: Must have had at least 45 SVO since beginning of 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 3, 2007 -> 12:53 AM) Saito: 46/49 | 93.88% Nathan: 52/56 | 92.86% K-Rod: 71/77 | 92.20% Hoffman: 69/76 | 90.78% Wagner: 56/62 | 90.32% Jenks: 63/70 | 90% Rivera: 44/49 | 89.80% Putz: 59/66 | 89.39% Papelbon: 54/61 | 88.52% Valverde: 44/51 | 86.27% T. Jones: 57/67 | 85.07% Ray: 47/56 | 83.93% Borowski: 60/72 | 83.33% C. Cordero: 43/53 | 81.13% Fuentes: 50/62 | 80.65% Isringhausen: 48/60 | 80% Dempster: 40/51 | 78.43% Street: 46/59 | 77.97% F. Cordero: 49/63 | 77.78% Thank you sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 11:48 PM) Actually, I would say that Bobby is one of the best "closers" in the game. You put him in a save situation and for the most part he gets it done. Kal, you're usually all over this stuff so where does his save percentage rank the last 2 seasons compared to others? So it doesn't matter when he comes into a tie game and blows the lead? QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 3, 2007 -> 12:53 AM) Saito: 46/49 | 93.88% Nathan: 52/56 | 92.86% K-Rod: 71/77 | 92.20% Hoffman: 69/76 | 90.78% Wagner: 56/62 | 90.32% Jenks: 63/70 | 90% Rivera: 44/49 | 89.80% Putz: 59/66 | 89.39% Papelbon: 54/61 | 88.52% Valverde: 44/51 | 86.27% T. Jones: 57/67 | 85.07% Ray: 47/56 | 83.93% Borowski: 60/72 | 83.33% C. Cordero: 43/53 | 81.13% Fuentes: 50/62 | 80.65% Isringhausen: 48/60 | 80% Dempster: 40/51 | 78.43% Street: 46/59 | 77.97% F. Cordero: 49/63 | 77.78% *IN ORDER TO QUALIFY: Must have had at least 45 SVO since beginning of 2006 What about ERA? I would love to know Bobby's ERA when he came into a tie game during that time period. If you go just by save % Joe Borowski is considered a top closer. Edited July 3, 2007 by WhiteSoxfan1986 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Jul 3, 2007 -> 01:18 AM) So it doesn't matter when he comes into a tie game and blows the lead? you'll be sorry. After tonight, Jenks has allowed a total of 5 extra-base hit in his career with the game tied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Jul 3, 2007 -> 01:18 AM) I would love to know Bobby's ERA when he comes into a tie game. Last season, pre ASB he entered a tied game 5 times and all 5 times he held the opponent scoreless. Post ASB however he entered 2 tie games and allowed 2 runs in 1 of them and 1 run in the other. This season he's entered tied games 4 times, he held the opponent scoreless in the first 2 but gave up a run in one of the games of the Astros series and again in the Cubs series. In '05 he entered 5 tie games and gave up a run only once. So he's held the opponent scoreless in 11 of the 16 tied games he's entered over the course of his career. And for comparison's sake Francisco Rodriguez entered 10 tied games last year and held the opponent scoreless in 7 of them. This season he's 2 for 4 (same as Bobby). So K-Rod is 9 for 14 over the past two seasons. Past 2 seasons: Jenks: 7 for 11 = 63.64% K-Rod: 9 for 14 = 64.29% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 held the lead in a tie game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jul 3, 2007 -> 01:31 AM) you'll be sorry. After tonight, Jenks has allowed a total of 5 extra-base hit in his career with the game tied. 2 doubles in '05, 3 two baggers in '06 and no X-base hits this year. QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 3, 2007 -> 01:43 AM) held the lead in a tie game? Haha, good catch. Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 3, 2007 -> 01:44 AM) Haha, good catch. But seriously though, great research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Jul 3, 2007 -> 01:18 AM) So it doesn't matter when he comes into a tie game and blows the lead? What about ERA? I would love to know Bobby's ERA when he came into a tie game during that time period. If you go just by save % Joe Borowski is considered a top closer. It depends on what your definition of "top" is. Ranking 13th out of 19 sounds pretty damn mediocre to me. He's in the bottom 40 percentile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Royce Ring was dealing in AAA for San Diego this season and got called up a couple weeks ago, and has been very, very good... Was Robby Alomar worth it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 QUOTE(BearSox @ Jul 3, 2007 -> 07:58 PM) Royce Ring was dealing in AAA for San Diego this season and got called up a couple weeks ago, and has been very, very good... Was Robby Alomar worth it? Shouldn't've ever come to that. Should've taken Blanton... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 3, 2007 -> 03:02 PM) Shouldn't've ever come to that. Should've taken Blanton... Well, I was a Ring fan, but I didn't know much about anything back in the day (not like I do now either). It woulda been nice if we got Hamels, who was taken 1 pick before us, but knowing this organization, they would have passed on Hamels anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 QUOTE(BearSox @ Jul 3, 2007 -> 02:58 PM) Royce Ring was dealing in AAA for San Diego this season and got called up a couple weeks ago, and has been very, very good... Was Robby Alomar worth it? Uh, yeah. The Sox were like the 2nd best team in the majors in the 2nd half of that year; Minnesota was the best, and the Sox were bad enough in the first half that 86 wins wasnt doing anything at all, but they were close as hell to winning that division. Considering all they gave up is a LOOGY or setup guy or whatever San Diego is going to use him as who hasn't become a big part of a bullpen until nearly 4 years later, yeah it was worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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