JDsDirtySox Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 From new article on whitesox.com With these struggles in mind, Guillen was contemplating a few lineup changes for Tuesday's series opener at home against Texas, after Sunday's loss left the White Sox with a 2-4 record on this six-game road trip. "I might put Iguchi second and Erstad batting in the sixth or seventh spot, just to get a different feel," Guillen said. "I might go lefty-righty, lefty-righty, lefty-righty all the way to the end. I'm looking for something different and hope it works." "We just need to find some way to get our confidence going," added White Sox right fielder Jermaine Dye, who drove in the only run off Sabathia with a bloop single down the right-field line in the sixth. "It might be putting up 10 to 15 hits per game or scoring nine or 10 runs, where everyone gets a couple of hits. We need something like that to get us going, and hopefully that will be soon." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Wait till it actually happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 QUOTE(Mr. Showtime @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 10:21 PM) Wait till it actually happens. Ditto. Ozzie's word so far doesn't mean s*** until he backs it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 6th? Yeah that's the spot for a light hitting, slow, no power type hitter like Erstad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 It scares me that he mentioned sixth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Go with... Pods, Igu, Thome, Konerko, Dye, Pierzynski, Uribe, Crede, Erstad/Anderson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 QUOTE(JDsDirtySox @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 09:15 PM) From new article on whitesox.com With these struggles in mind, Guillen was contemplating a few lineup changes for Tuesday's series opener at home against Texas, after Sunday's loss left the White Sox with a 2-4 record on this six-game road trip. I could have sworn the Sox were 3-3 on this road trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 QUOTE(South Side Fireworks Man @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 10:34 PM) I could have sworn the Sox were 3-3 on this road trip. It sure felt like 2-4 though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 QUOTE(BearSox @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 09:36 PM) It sure felt like 2-4 though... You got that right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosox41 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 QUOTE(JDsDirtySox @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 10:15 PM) From new article on whitesox.com With these struggles in mind, Guillen was contemplating a few lineup changes for Tuesday's series opener at home against Texas, after Sunday's loss left the White Sox with a 2-4 record on this six-game road trip. "I might put Iguchi second and Erstad batting in the sixth or seventh spot, just to get a different feel," Guillen said. "I might go lefty-righty, lefty-righty, lefty-righty all the way to the end. I'm looking for something different and hope it works." "We just need to find some way to get our confidence going," added White Sox right fielder Jermaine Dye, who drove in the only run off Sabathia with a bloop single down the right-field line in the sixth. "It might be putting up 10 to 15 hits per game or scoring nine or 10 runs, where everyone gets a couple of hits. We need something like that to get us going, and hopefully that will be soon." It will help, but may not matter much until Thome, Konerko, Crede, and Dye hit like they're capable of. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 QUOTE(gosox41 @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 10:53 PM) It will help, but may not matter much until Thome, Konerko, Crede, and Dye hit like they're capable of. Bob What's wrong with Thome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 6th? Yeah that's the spot for a light hitting, slow, no power type hitter like Erstad. slow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Thank f***ing god. Someone had to clean up that mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 QUOTE(southsideirish @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 11:34 PM) slow? Yeah, one adjective too many, he's pretty quick on the basepaths. How about light hitting, low on base, no power type hitter like Erstad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 10:44 PM) Erstad should be hitting 10th. Isn't that the truth. Kenny should just use cut his losses and release him. He'll save money on per diems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Yea why dont u just cut everybody who hits like crap in cold weather . Would we be able to field a team at this point ? Don't act like Erstad's the only one. You're just bleating into the wind like the rest of the sheep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 10:44 PM) Erstad should be hitting 10th. lol and he should be playing left out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 QUOTE(GreenSox @ Apr 16, 2007 -> 12:06 AM) Isn't that the truth. Kenny should just use cut his losses and release him. He'll save money on per diems. Yeah, and we should probably just shoot him in the leg and leave him for dead. In fact, anyone in the league hitting under .200 right now, should be cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Erstad has a good glove and some speed. He is the kind of player that Ozzie likes if for no other reason then he talks a good game. I am still open on him being played in front of Anderson. Brian didn't excatly burn up the basepaths early last year either. What I didn't like is Iguchi being moved down in the order, He is a real effective #2 hitter and why mess with success? Erstad should hit lower in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 QUOTE(elrockinMT @ Apr 16, 2007 -> 09:46 AM) Erstad has a good glove and some speed. He is the kind of player that Ozzie likes if for no other reason then he talks a good game. I am still open on him being played in front of Anderson. Brian didn't excatly burn up the basepaths early last year either. What I didn't like is Iguchi being moved down in the order, He is a real effective #2 hitter and why mess with success? Erstad should hit lower in my opinion. What I don't f***ing understand is why BA isn't playing when he's the younger, better fielder, and had a great spring training... while Erstad continues to suck fat balls and goes out there EVERY DAMN DAY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Apr 16, 2007 -> 09:47 AM) What I don't f***ing understand is why BA isn't playing when he's the younger, better fielder, and had a great spring training... while Erstad continues to suck fat balls and goes out there EVERY DAMN DAY! You can't win with young players. Duh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damen Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Apr 16, 2007 -> 09:47 AM) What I don't f***ing understand is why BA isn't playing when he's the younger, better fielder, and had a great spring training... while Erstad continues to suck fat balls and goes out there EVERY DAMN DAY! What's to understand? This is nothing new. Since BA did not light the world on fire in the first three months of 2006, there is nothing he can do to adjust Ozzie's view of him. Outperform Podsednik on the field and at the plate the rest of the year? Split time with Mackowiak. Outperform Erstad in Spring Training? Sit on the bench. Ozzie's mind is made, and he's a bit of a stubborn prick. According to Ozzie's lizard brain, BA doesn't play the game the right way. Erstad does. Actual performance means nothing. On edit...I probably should have said, "since BA was beyond terrible at the plate his first three months..." Didn't light the world on fire is a bit of an understatement. Edited April 16, 2007 by Damen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Good, bring back Iguchi for 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 QUOTE(Damen @ Apr 16, 2007 -> 10:56 AM) According to Ozzie's lizard brain, BA doesn't play the game the right way. Erstad does. Actual performance means nothing. They both cant hit, and they both can field. The only other way of Ozzie figuring out who is best is intangibles like work ethic, focus, leadership, and the ability to do little things for a team to win. It has come to light that BA may be unfocused when it comes to preparation. Also he cant really bunt, try to move a runner over, hit to the other field, or walk. Ozzie feels more comfortable in the experience of a Vet trying to do those things over a kid. Not to mention it has been said that Erstad has already become a vocal leader on the field and in the clubhouse. BA should be in AAA where he belongs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damen Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Apr 16, 2007 -> 11:01 AM) They both cant hit, and they both can field. The only other way of Ozzie figuring out who is best is intangibles like work ethic, focus, leadership, and the ability to do little things for a team to win. It has come to light that BA may be unfocused when it comes to preparation. Also he cant really bunt, try to move a runner over, hit to the other field, or walk. Ozzie feels more comfortable in the experience of a Vet trying to do those things over a kid. Not to mention it has been said that Erstad has already become a vocal leader on the field and in the clubhouse. BA should be in AAA where he belongs. I don't know that Erstad has shown the ability to do any of those things all that well either at this point, save bunting. I think we can expect both to be hitting around .250-.265 by the end of the year. Anderson has some power. Erstad has none. Both play good D, however, Anderson's is still superior. But yeah, you're right. Under this manager, BA belongs in AAA. Under a competent manager, he's the starting CFer out of Spring Training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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