BrandoFan Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 After a bad May, he is up to .340, OPS in mid-900's, on pace to 55 doubles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 I don't think anyone will argue that he is a good AAA hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted June 26, 2003 Author Share Posted June 26, 2003 I don't think anyone will argue that he is a good AAA hitter. We shouldn't have let Kieshniek go, that dude was a gamble, but he still has a lot of batspeed and can throw 94mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted June 26, 2003 Author Share Posted June 26, 2003 I don't think anyone will argue that he is a good AAA hitter. So what does that say about Borchard? Has Gload been given a chance to hit up here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 So what does that say about Borchard? Has Gload been given a chance to hit up here? Nope, but Borchard is on the 40-man and was given $5.3 million. Gload was a roster-fill pick up. May not be fair, but that's the way baseball works, my friend. I won't say Gload will never get a chance, but his odds are long. And even longer for him to get a chance and stay in the Big Leagues (as more than a 5th OF) for more than a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 Rex, your point about comparing Gload to Borchard is perfectly valid. But how about comparing Gload to Rios? I'll take Gload any day, and the wasted money for cutting Rios would be minimal. Plus, we would be doing a service to mankind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 Rex, your point about comparing Gload to Borchard is perfectly valid. But how about comparing Gload to Rios? I'll take Gload any day, and the wasted money for cutting Rios would be minimal. Plus, we would be doing a service to mankind. I won't argue with you on the merit of the argument, but when you are talking about one guy who is on the 40-man and one that is not, it isn't so black and white. Does Gload do any better if he is up with the Sox and NOT playing every day?? By the way, is his name Russ or Ross? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox61382 Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 Gload has been in the majors twice over the past three years. Once with the Cubs and with Colorado last year if I am not mistaken. I saw him a couple of times when he was with the Cubs and he looked very hitterish. I really think he has a chance to be a late bloomer. The kid has a career minor league average in the .330's. He can't be any worse then Rios or Konerko right now. I would really like to see this kid in the majors. He is a pretty decent athlete. The only thing that I really don't like about him is that he doesn't draw a lot of walks, but that is really his only weakness. His first name is Ross by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 Rex, the 40 man roster is irrelevant. We cut Rios, promote Gload, washy washy. A roster spot and PT are freed up in Charlotte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted June 27, 2003 Share Posted June 27, 2003 Rex, the 40 man roster is irrelevant. We cut Rios, promote Gload, washy washy. A roster spot and PT are freed up in Charlotte. The 40-man roster is not irrelevant because teams are hesitant to put guys on it unless they are sure they plan to keep them there. Right or wrong, most teams just don't yo-yo guys on and off of the 40-man roster. There is also the money side. If they get rid of Rios then they have to eat his contract and then pay Gload Major League scale. It may seem like a small amount of money in the grand scheme of things, but it does come into play. Especially when they have no idea how Gload would play if he only plays once or twice a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleM23 Posted June 27, 2003 Share Posted June 27, 2003 Gload's in his late-20s, right? AAAA player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted June 27, 2003 Share Posted June 27, 2003 Gload's in his late-20s, right? AAAA player. He's 27...... He has had 2 cups of coffee, but I agree and have said repeatedly that he is a AAAA guy. You are right on it here, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted June 27, 2003 Share Posted June 27, 2003 Rex, I hope we agree on one thing, and that is that Mr. Rios will not be on the team or in the organization next year. He is the closest thing to history on the 40 man roster. Gload, if he comes up and does well, will be invited back on at least a minor league contract or released if there is interest in him. He has a better chance of contributing than does Rios. I mean, he is hitting over .330 in AAA. If Joe B were doing that, everyone in the organization would be having orgasm. He came to Charlotte and performed big time, and we owe him a cup of coffee, especially since someone else at his position (Rios) is not doing well. It would not cause a problem with the 40 man roster, since Rios would be released. What does he have to do, hit .400? In terms of money, we would sacrifice about one half of Rios' salary and give a slight bump to Gload. What is that, a couple hundred grand or so? If I were in charge, I would give him a few games in left and DH and maybe first and see what happens. If he goes oh for 20, so be it. If he rips a couple in the gap at the right time, which no one else is doing, ............... I'm done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted June 27, 2003 Author Share Posted June 27, 2003 he is hitting over .330 in AAA. If Joe B were doing that, everyone in the organization would be having orgasm I believe he is close to .350 after a 3-hit game tonight. But point well taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted June 27, 2003 Share Posted June 27, 2003 I do agree that Rios time here is limited and will not last beyond this season if that long. But who does Gload take playing time from?? When Wunsch comes off the DL, the Sox will likely move a position player. So does Rowand go? Harris? Rios? So even if Rios goes, then until they move back to 11 pitchers. My point is that just because Gload is hitting .330 it doesn't mean he can play a part-time role. And I don't see them using him full-time right now. I understand that he is doing well and that he may "deserve a cup of coffee" but that doesn't mean he'll get it. Lots of guys hit and hit well in AAA. Luis Raven, Mario Valdez are a couple that come to mind. Gload may end up getting a shot with the Sox and he may not, but don't expect him to contribute to the Sox for long term. He is more than likely a AAAA player that will bounce in and out of the Majors for the next few years, then never to be heard from again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted June 27, 2003 Author Share Posted June 27, 2003 I do agree that Rios time here is limited and will not last beyond this season if that long. But who does Gload take playing time from?? When Wunsch comes off the DL, the Sox will likely move a position player. So does Rowand go? Harris? Rios? So even if Rios goes, then until they move back to 11 pitchers. My point is that just because Gload is hitting .330 it doesn't mean he can play a part-time role. And I don't see them using him full-time right now. I understand that he is doing well and that he may "deserve a cup of coffee" but that doesn't mean he'll get it. Lots of guys hit and hit well in AAA. Luis Raven, Mario Valdez are a couple that come to mind. Gload may end up getting a shot with the Sox and he may not, but don't expect him to contribute to the Sox for long term. He is more than likely a AAAA player that will bounce in and out of the Majors for the next few years, then never to be heard from again. Too bad he can't play CF or 3B.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted June 27, 2003 Share Posted June 27, 2003 Rex, you are correct when you say we have to consider the roster, because if someone come in, some one must go out. Understood. I would bring up Gload, and cut Rios. This does not impact either the 40 man or 25 man roster. Then there is the Kelly Wunsch dilemma. At one point I would have said something negative about Rick White, since I was against signing him from the beginning, and have said so many times. But, in truth, he has pitched well of late, so I would keep him, because there probably is no trade value for him now. (There might be on 7-31). When Kelly is ready, I would send Glover down. A) it might wake him up; and B) he is not contributing to the team. If our bullpen suddenly gets overworked, Kelly can take some of those innings, as well as White and Sanders. Knock on wood, but our starters have been giving us innings lately. So I bring up Gload and Wunsch , cut Rios, and send Glover to AAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted June 28, 2003 Share Posted June 28, 2003 Rex, three more hits for Gload (Friday night). We're now in a fight for the Division Title; we need to get that bat in Chicago, yes, at the expense of Rios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted June 28, 2003 Share Posted June 28, 2003 Rex, three more hits for Gload (Friday night). We're now in a fight for the Division Title; we need to get that bat in Chicago, yes, at the expense of Rios. Jim, if it happens, I am all for it. I am just not optimistic it will. But, if he keeps hitting............. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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