BigSqwert Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 9, 2008 -> 06:12 PM) AP: Bill Richardson to drop out. Or not: NBC: Richardson campaign denies report he is dropping out of Democratic presidential race More details: Richardson may simply suspend his campaign, thus no longer campaigning for the nomination but not endorsing anyone. At a staff meeting today, people were told that Richardson will not endorse Obama or Clinton LINK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 10, 2008 Author Share Posted January 10, 2008 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jan 10, 2008 -> 01:13 PM) LINK I'm not sure how seriously to take a writer who things that Nevada is a "next-door state" to New Mexico. They are hundreds of miles apart, and they have very different cultures (though they do share a large hispanic population). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 10, 2008 -> 10:58 AM) Seriously, what has anyone done in the office of president since Reagan that makes that much of a POSITIVE difference? It's (our government) a cesspool of s***. Totally random but I just thought of two things Bill Clinton did that made a positive difference. For one I am thankful for his subtle but perhaps crucial intervention warning against Quebec's separation from Canada in the 1995 referendum, and his other words in favor of Canadian federation. Also many people seem to think Bill Clinton played a key role in the Northern Ireland peace deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 10, 2008 Author Share Posted January 10, 2008 QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Jan 10, 2008 -> 02:23 PM) Totally random but I just thought of two things Bill Clinton did that made a positive difference. For one I am thankful for his subtle but perhaps crucial intervention warning against Quebec's separation from Canada in the 1995 referendum, and his other words in favor of Canadian federation. Also many people seem to think Bill Clinton played a key role in the Northern Ireland peace deal. Yeah, Clinton did a number of very good things in his Presidency. Quite a lot, actually. I despise the man personally, but upon hindsight, he was a pretty good President. Bush 41 also did a few good things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Just got this Dear Jim, It is with great pride, understanding and acceptance that I am ending my campaign for President of the United States. It was my hope that all of you would first hear this news from me and not a news organization. But unfortunately, as with too many things in our world today, it's the ending of something that garners the most intense interest and speculation. I knew from the beginning that this would be an uphill climb. When I entered the campaign, it was clear that we, as Democrats, had the most talented field of candidates in my lifetime running to change the direction of our country. And in the end, one of them will. Despite overwhelming financial and political odds, I am proud of the campaign we waged and the influence we had on the issues that matter most to the future of this country. A year ago, we were the only major campaign calling for the removal of all of our troops within a year's time from Iraq. We were the only campaign calling for a complete reform of education in this country, including the scrapping of No Child Left Behind. And we were the campaign with the most aggressive clean energy plan and the most ambitious standards for reducing global warming. Now, all of the remaining candidates are coming to our point of view. I am confident that the next President of the United States will implement much of what we've been urging for the last twelve months, and our nation and world will be the better for it. There are so many of you who gave so much to this campaign. For that, I will be forever grateful. Running for president has been, at times, humbling and at other times, exhilarating. I have grown and learned a great deal from the experience, and I am a better person for it. Also, because of your close friendship and support throughout the ups and downs of what is a very grueling and demanding process, I have never felt alone. Running for president brings out the best in everyone who graces the stage, and I have learned much from the other candidates running. They have all brought great talents and abilities to the campaign. Senator Biden's passion and intellect are remarkable. Senator Dodd is the epitome of selfless dedication to public service and the Democratic Party. Senator Edwards is a singular voice for the most downtrodden and forgotten among us. Senator Obama is a bright light of hope and optimism at a time of great national unease, yet he is also grounded in thoughtful wisdom beyond his years. Senator Clinton's poise in the face of adversity is matched only by her lifetime of achievement and deep understanding of the challenges we face. Representative Kucinich is a man of great decency and dedication who will faithfully soldier on no matter how great the odds. And all of us in the Democratic Party owe Senator Mike Gravel our appreciation for his leadership during the national turmoil of Vietnam. I am honored to have shared the stage with each of these Democrats. And I am enormously grateful to all of my supporters who chose to stand with me despite so many other candidates of accomplishment and potential. Now that my time in this national campaign has come to an end, I would urge those who supported my candidacy to take a long and thoughtful look at the remaining Democrats. They are all strong contenders who each, in their own way, would bring desperately needed change to our country. All I ask is that you make your own independent choice with the same care and dedication to this country that you honored me with during this campaign. At this time, I will not endorse any candidate. Now I am returning to a job that I love, serving a state that I cherish and doing the work of the people I was elected to serve. As I have always said, I am the luckiest man I know. I am married to my high school sweetheart. I live in a place called the Land of Enchantment. I have the best job in the world. And I just got to run for president of the United States. It doesn't get any better than that. With my deepest appreciation for all that you have done, Bill Governor Bill Richardson The Governor's Mansion Santa Fe, New Mexico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 How would he look next to Obama? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 10, 2008 -> 02:40 PM) How would he look next to Obama? Shorter and wider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jan 10, 2008 -> 02:41 PM) Shorter and wider. :lolhitting :lolhitting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jan 10, 2008 -> 02:41 PM) Shorter and wider. That stance would kill him in the GOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 10, 2008 -> 03:31 PM) That stance would kill him in the GOP Why? Craig's still in the Senate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 With all this witty banter, i think if we banded all of SoxTalk together we might just give the Daily Show a run for its money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Jan 10, 2008 -> 03:38 PM) With all this witty banter, i think if we banded all of SoxTalk together we might just give the Daily Show a run for its money. I hear they're in need of writers. Of course, this is a Dems only thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 10, 2008 -> 05:39 PM) I hear they're in need of writers. Of course, this is a Dems only thread... Well, we all know the GOP has no sense of humor JUST KIDDING!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 (edited) Interesting take on Michigan. EDIT: By the way, why is Hillary the only Dem on the Michigan ballot? Even though the delegates don;t count there will be people who do not pay very close attention and notice that she "Won easily" in Michigan. Edited January 11, 2008 by BigSqwert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Kucinich wants a recount in NH because of the difference between machine counted votes and hand counted votes. More info at newsobserver.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Jan 11, 2008 -> 08:47 AM) Kucinich wants a recount in NH because of the difference between machine counted votes and hand counted votes. More info at newsobserver.com Good for Dennis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jan 10, 2008 -> 09:03 PM) Interesting take on Michigan. hmmm.... kinda right. i think Mitt is good for the Democrats and Hillary is good for the Republicans. Hence why many hope for a Obama / McCain battle. THat will be epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 (edited) QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jan 10, 2008 -> 09:03 PM) EDIT: By the way, why is Hillary the only Dem on the Michigan ballot? Even though the delegates don;t count there will be people who do not pay very close attention and notice that she "Won easily" in Michigan. Hence why she is still on the ballot. She needs a "see, i won!" moment. I believe she is also one of few still on the Florida ballot. Edited January 11, 2008 by Athomeboy_2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jan 11, 2008 -> 08:49 AM) Good for Dennis. It's been proven that Paul lost votes, now DK wants a recount. Some have been hinting the Obama should have called for a recount as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Lemon Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Arizona Gov. Endorses Obama Along w/ Kerry and Johnson, this is another endorsement that will benefit Obama. He wins support from a popular woman governor of a western state. An Obama administration would likely consider her to lead the Justice Department or view her as a possible Supreme Court nominee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 QUOTE(Chet Lemon @ Jan 11, 2008 -> 10:12 AM) Arizona Gov. Endorses Obama Along w/ Kerry and Johnson, this is another endorsement that will benefit Obama. He wins support from a popular woman governor of a western state. An Obama administration would likely consider her to lead the Justice Department or view her as a possible Supreme Court nominee. As you may have inadvertently hinted there, not all endorsements are "oh i like this guy, vote for him". Many are for political gain. "Hey, i gave you my support, now give me something back". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Jan 11, 2008 -> 08:18 AM) As you may have inadvertently hinted there, not all endorsements are "oh i like this guy, vote for him". Many are for political gain. "Hey, i gave you my support, now give me something back". Or, it's "I think if this person is elected, I will benefit more from having him/her in the job". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 11, 2008 -> 10:46 AM) Or, it's "I think if this person is elected, I will benefit more from having him/her in the job". true. I phrased my second option wrong. I meant to include that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Ok, so i just heard an interview on MSNBC with a Hillary supporter and she mentioned that while Obama talks about change... Hillary has produced change. Ya know, every time I hear one of her supports on TV mention that, they NEVER have followed up with a "well, how has she produced change?" I know we have talked about it here, but no one in the national media feels to the need to follow up on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Jan 11, 2008 -> 10:15 AM) Ok, so i just heard an interview on MSNBC with a Hillary supporter and she mentioned that while Obama talks about change... Hillary has produced change. Ya know, every time I hear one of her supports on TV mention that, they NEVER have followed up with a "well, how has she produced change?" I know we have talked about it here, but no one in the national media feels to the need to follow up on that. She helped Mr. Bush start the Iraq war with her vote. That's produced an awful lot of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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