bmags Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 10, 2008 -> 12:34 AM) The Cleveland Plain Dealer has endorsed Obama. Although, CA proved pretty conclusively to me that endorsements by newspapers don't matter much these days. The Clinton Campaign is saying that a temporary suspension for Shuster is not enough. The Chicago Tribune backed bush in '04, the only papers that I think really would matter are niche papers with strong connections to their audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 9, 2008 -> 06:34 PM) The Cleveland Plain Dealer has endorsed Obama. Although, CA proved pretty conclusively to me that endorsements by newspapers don't matter much these days. The Clinton Campaign is saying that a temporary suspension for Shuster is not enough. I guess I don't know the "pimpin" controversy that well, maybe I should see if it's on youtube or something to hear how it went. But does anyone think it shouldn't be that big of a deal? I guess in my generation pimp is used loosely for a lot of things. They even have a show called Pimp My Ride, which is a terrible show in my opinion, but to me that's a differen version of the word. Sure he shouldn't have said that, but getting suspended seems too much if you ask me. The Clinton's are doing a good job playing the victim card it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Nebraska goes big for Obama. 69-31 right now. With 30% in Washington reporting he's up 67-32 there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I smell a sweep tonight. I made a ton of calls to Louisiana and I did not get one Hillary supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Feb 9, 2008 -> 07:50 PM) I smell a sweep tonight. I made a ton of calls to Louisiana and I did not get one Hillary supporter. Nebraska and Washington are blowout wins for Obama. Obama leads in exit polls out of Louisiana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Great night for Obama, he'll probably sweep on Tuesday as well. I will say this about him too: the more I watch him, the more I think it's almost destiny he'll be the president. I am not even going to vote for him in November, but he's just a phenominal speaker and combine that with the youth and excitment he provides, I can't see him losing. It just seems like he's building a bowling ball of moment that might carry him past Hillary and all the way to 1600. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Feb 9, 2008 -> 07:23 PM) I guess I don't know the "pimpin" controversy that well, maybe I should see if it's on youtube or something to hear how it went. But does anyone think it shouldn't be that big of a deal? I guess in my generation pimp is used loosely for a lot of things. They even have a show called Pimp My Ride, which is a terrible show in my opinion, but to me that's a differen version of the word. Sure he shouldn't have said that, but getting suspended seems too much if you ask me. The Clinton's are doing a good job playing the victim card it seems. well, the comment was inappropriate in my opinion. While the term might not have been out right sexual, it was the context. His IDEA was correct, but his wording was bad. What he was trying to say is the Clinton campaign is basically using her to give her mom a good name. Note: She rarely or never campaigned until Hillary lost Iowa. So, he is saying they are "pimping" her out to give them a good name and good face. if it had been a guy, it probably woul dhave not been an issue. But you really shouldnt say they are "pimping" a woman. A short suspension is plenty. The Clinton's are just upset that MSNBC refuses to bow before them. Frankly, I think MSNBC hates the Clintons. At least several of their hosts do. CNN bends over backwards for them, but MSNBC wont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 (edited) Quick Question / Observation: Accoridn to MSNBC and CNN's delegate counts by state, 6 Super Tuesday states (Alabama, Colorado, Georgia, Illinois, New York, Tennessee) still don't have the total delegate counts in. Any idea why? Edited February 10, 2008 by Athomeboy_2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Feb 10, 2008 -> 09:08 AM) well, the comment was inappropriate in my opinion. While the term might not have been out right sexual, it was the context. His IDEA was correct, but his wording was bad. What he was trying to say is the Clinton campaign is basically using her to give her mom a good name. Note: She rarely or never campaigned until Hillary lost Iowa. So, he is saying they are "pimping" her out to give them a good name and good face. if it had been a guy, it probably woul dhave not been an issue. But you really shouldnt say they are "pimping" a woman. A short suspension is plenty. The Clinton's are just upset that MSNBC refuses to bow before them. Frankly, I think MSNBC hates the Clintons. At least several of their hosts do. CNN bends over backwards for them, but MSNBC wont. OK, I see, it makes sense but I can't stand those double standard issues where it'd be ok if it was said to a man, but you can't say it to a woman. Or if a woman says something it's ok, but if a man says the same thing it's terrible. Hahah sorry tha's my rant in regards to this situation, I'm done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Clinton Rally: The Next President... OBAMA! The candidate was more than an hour late, and the crowd, stuck in a stuffy high school gym in Arlington, was getting antsy. A campaign staffer took the stage with a big pile of T-shirts to give to those who answered trivia questions about Hillary Clinton... Her birthplace? Got it. Her law school? Piece of cake. How much of the country would Clinton's health plan cover? "All," came the answer. Okay, final question: "This person is the next president of the United States . . ." Suddenly, all around me, the bleachers in the Washington-Lee High School gym shook with shouts of "Obama!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 (edited) Breaking News on CNN.com is showing that Clinton just fired her campaign manager. Doesnt seem like a good time to switch that guy out for someone else http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/10/cli...aign/index.html Edited February 10, 2008 by kyyle23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Clinton: Obama is the establishment! "Senator Obama, really in the last couple of weeks ran an establishment campaign based on endorsements while he's saying that he was in fact a change candidate," said Clinton campaign strategist Mark Penn, listing the endorsement of Massachusetts Sen. Edward Kennedy, a senior figure in the party, as one of several advantages Obama had. Once again, she is projecting. If you notice, when she talks negative about Obama, it tends to be something that applies more to her than him. So, a man who has been in congress less than 4 years is establishment, but the woman who claims "35 years of experience" isnt? ODD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Feb 10, 2008 -> 03:46 PM) Breaking News on CNN.com is showing that Clinton just fired her campaign manager. Doesnt seem like a good time to switch that guy out for someone else http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/10/cli...aign/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 I hope Clinton's campaign falls apart. I'm not really an Obama fan because I'm a Republican and don't agree with a few things he has talked about, but I believe if he is elected president he'd be a pretty good one. I don't believe that with Clinton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 So Obama won Maine, giving him 4 states won over the past couple of days. And there's about 3 states due to go to the polls tomorrow right? Also, what are Obama's chances of winning in Texas or Ohio? Those 2 seem to be the big ones left, and the pattern seems to be Obama winning the smaller / medium states (and more of them), and Clinton winning the larger states. What impact will Obama winning either Texas or Ohio have on the overall shape of things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Obama takes Maine also, by nearly 20 points. He may not lose for the next week. This was Clinton's best shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Feb 10, 2008 -> 04:56 PM) So Obama won Maine, giving him 4 states won over the past couple of days. And there's about 3 states due to go to the polls tomorrow right? Also, what are Obama's chances of winning in Texas or Ohio? Those 2 seem to be the big ones left, and the pattern seems to be Obama winning the smaller / medium states (and more of them), and Clinton winning the larger states. What impact will Obama winning either Texas or Ohio have on the overall shape of things? If he could somehow finish a sweep on Tuesday, giving him 7 wins in a row (which is entirely possible)...that's some potential momentum. You get a test for that in Wisconsin on the 19th. The problem is, momentum from wins tends to die off with a half life of a couple days. As the calendar spreads out, the momentum from a win will tend to do the same. If he could take both Ohio and Texas, that puts him pretty close, but still not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 10, 2008 -> 08:29 PM) If he could somehow finish a sweep on Tuesday, giving him 7 wins in a row (which is entirely possible)...that's some potential momentum. You get a test for that in Wisconsin on the 19th. The problem is, momentum from wins tends to die off with a half life of a couple days. As the calendar spreads out, the momentum from a win will tend to do the same. If he could take both Ohio and Texas, that puts him pretty close, but still not there. Wisconsin will be close to Illinois I believe in Obama voting. The real challenge will be Indiana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 QUOTE(knightni @ Feb 10, 2008 -> 07:33 PM) Wisconsin will be close to Illinois I believe in Obama voting. The real challenge will be Indiana. And Indiana doesn't vote until May. Whoever wins Texas is probably going to win this thing. And I *still* say Clinton wins this thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Were there any polls for Texas, and how many delegates up for grabs there? Obviously, Obama would have to make some in-roads in the Latino vote you'd think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 There's 228 delegates in the state of Texas for the Democrats. On the same day, March 4, Ohio also votes and they have 161 delegates at stake. That's a big chunk and the winner of that day will have a leg up the rest of the way, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 BTW this is a nice page for the delegates count: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/20...gate_count.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Feb 10, 2008 -> 05:14 PM) So is it rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic? I really hope so. I don't agree with much that Obama has to say, but at least I respect the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Wisconsin is vitally important to Clinton, VA too but less so. A 20 point Obama win in VA is a blow to her, because that means WI is probably likely to lean in Obama's camp too. A close win in VA means that her machine is back on track and might be able to pull off big wins in OH and TX. This weekend was a hit for her because she didn't expect to lose by 18 points in Maine. She expected a narrow victory. She didn't expect to be blown out in Washington or Nebraska either. She thought she'd peel enough delegates off Obama to maintain her delegate lead with Supers that have committed. That didn't happen. But blowouts in VA and WI means its about over, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 hmmmm.... Obama canceled his meeting with John Edwards today. Edwards met with Clinton on Thursday. Interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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