Reddy Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 11, 2008 -> 07:15 PM) I'm not sure I've seen a case this term where a newspaper endorsement has made a difference, but i.e. Kennedy, we've seen some major polling moves in certain states created by local endorsements. It seems to vary with the state and with the person. it's not specific endorsements that make any difference, it's just the fact that certain candidates are GETTING endorsements. For example, every day you see another story of another so and so endorsing Obama. It doesn't matter WHO it is, all it shows is that he's getting more support of people who "know what they're talking about" than Clinton is. People see that and go "oh well... i guess he IS the better choice". That's why endorsements matter. The only time specific endorsements matter is when you've got your Kennedy's, your Gores and your Edwards caliber people. Otherwise they're meaningless individually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 QUOTE(Reddy @ Feb 12, 2008 -> 11:32 AM) it's not specific endorsements that make any difference, it's just the fact that certain candidates are GETTING endorsements. For example, every day you see another story of another so and so endorsing Obama. It doesn't matter WHO it is, all it shows is that he's getting more support of people who "know what they're talking about" than Clinton is. People see that and go "oh well... i guess he IS the better choice". That's why endorsements matter. The only time specific endorsements matter is when you've got your Kennedy's, your Gores and your Edwards caliber people. Otherwise they're meaningless individually. That's a pretty accurate assessment of endorsements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Just pledged 250 to obama and somone matched it, cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 QUOTE(Jimbo's Drinker @ Feb 12, 2008 -> 12:25 PM) Just pledged 250 to obama and somone matched it, cool Wow. What a high roller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Feb 12, 2008 -> 12:31 PM) Wow. What a high roller. appreciate the sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Feb 12, 2008 -> 12:24 PM) That's a pretty accurate assessment of endorsements. careful, we just agreed on something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 QUOTE(Jimbo's Drinker @ Feb 12, 2008 -> 12:32 PM) appreciate the sarcasm. Actually it wasn't sarcasm. I donated $5.01 to him today so I felt poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Think Obama throws out the first pitch Opening day? Although I am not certain of the primary schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Feb 12, 2008 -> 12:36 PM) Actually it wasn't sarcasm. I donated $5.01 to him today so I felt poor. oh sorry!! I saw that 5.01 thing on facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 (edited) No idea how reliable their work is since I don't know if I've heard of them before, but Public Policy Polling has a new one out with Obama 50 Clinton 39. Edit: In Wisconsin. Edited February 12, 2008 by Balta1701 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Feb 12, 2008 -> 12:36 PM) Think Obama throws out the first pitch Opening day? Although I am not certain of the primary schedule. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Survey USA polls Ohio...Clinton 56, Obama 39. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Ohio is GOLDEN Hillarity territory. And Texas. That's why I keep saying that she is going to still win, because if she gets over 55% of the vote in both states, she is just about there in the overall picture. I will do my part in Texas to vote AGAINST her, that's for damn sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Feb 12, 2008 -> 03:28 PM) That's why I keep saying that she is going to still win, because if she gets over 55% of the vote in both states, she is just about there in the overall picture. If you use the results the Obama campaign have collected, Obama currently leads 1031-944 in pldged delegates. Assuming a 60-40 split in the 3 contests today... Obama potential jumps to 1132-1011. I'll split WI 55-45 and Hawaii 60-40... 1185-1053. Now lets move to Ohio and Texas. I'll split them 55-45 to Clinton... Obama - 1335 Clinton - 1236 Even if Hillary won the other March 4th states by 55-45, it would be... Obama - 1351 Clinton - 1256 Yes these are delegate counts and do not directly reflect voter percentages, but you get the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Texas is really going to be the wildcard down the stretch. If Obama can do well there, he may just have enough delegates. Does he need to win it though, or will a close loss be enough (depending on Ohio's result)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Hell, why not, I can spare $5.01. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 QUOTE(Reddy @ Feb 12, 2008 -> 11:32 AM) it's not specific endorsements that make any difference, it's just the fact that certain candidates are GETTING endorsements. For example, every day you see another story of another so and so endorsing Obama. It doesn't matter WHO it is, all it shows is that he's getting more support of people who "know what they're talking about" than Clinton is. People see that and go "oh well... i guess he IS the better choice". That's why endorsements matter. The only time specific endorsements matter is when you've got your Kennedy's, your Gores and your Edwards caliber people. Otherwise they're meaningless individually. excellent post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mplssoxfan Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Cnn and Fox call Virginia for Obama at 7:01 local time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mplssoxfan Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 (edited) CNN reports polls open statewide in Maryland for an extra 90 minutes because of bad weather. Edited February 13, 2008 by Mplssoxfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 QUOTE(Mplssoxfan @ Feb 12, 2008 -> 06:11 PM) Cnn and Fox call Virginia for Obama at 7:01 local time. And MSNBC just called D.C. for Obama. Looks like a Hillary THUMPING tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 More Shakeups in Hillaryland On the heels of another trouncing, deputy campaign manager Mike Henry is leaving the Hillary Clinton campaign operation, several campaign insiders said on Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Virginia Exit Polls: Obama Dominates Across the Board Male: 67%... Female: 59%... All Income Levels... All Regions (except Western VA), Democrat: 60%... Republican: 70%... Independent: 66%... White: 50%... Black: 89%... Latino: 53% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Feb 12, 2008 -> 07:05 PM) And MSNBC just called D.C. for Obama. Looks like a Hillary THUMPING tonight. Tonight feels very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I think it's over. Obama is going to beat Hillary, and probably win the White House. I don't think he is going to run a horrible campaign like Gore or Kerry. GW Bush pretty much handed the Dems this thing with the huge deficits he ran up and the Iraq war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 QUOTE(mr_genius @ Feb 12, 2008 -> 08:51 PM) I think it's over. Obama is going to beat Hillary, and probably win the White House. I don't think he is going to run a horrible campaign like Gore or Kerry. GW Bush pretty much handed the Dems this thing with the huge deficits he ran up and the Iraq war. I have no doubt anymore that you are correct. It took me a while to get this feeling but I am certain he will be our next president. This is a true movement now. You cannot deny it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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