YASNY Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 03:36 PM) Because us Iowans are awesome, that's why. I can honestly say I've never quite heard it put that way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 03:38 PM) I can honestly say I've never quite heard it put that way! You'd be surprised just how many Iowans wish we didn't have the caucuses. The constant phone calls and mailings get annoying in a hurry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 People down here and in my office are majorly rooting for Obama now. I think they're going to end up pretty happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 03:45 PM) You'd be surprised just how many Iowans wish we didn't have the caucuses. The constant phone calls and mailings get annoying in a hurry. I'm not surprised by that at all. I get aggravated with that crap too, and I can imagine the amount of it you have to put up with in Iowa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 03:49 PM) I'm not surprised by that at all. I get aggravated with that crap too, and I can imagine the amount of it you have to put up with in Iowa. In December, we probably averaged 1-2 mailings and 3-6 phone calls a day. Unfortunately, one campaign got my cell phone number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Big endorsements on the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 6, 2008 Author Share Posted January 6, 2008 Every polling organization and their brothers have been doing new Hampshire polls after the 1/3 Iowa caucus. I'm here to break it down for you. There have been 7 polls published in that period - post-Iowa. I will ignore Zogby (Obama +4) and ARG (Obama +12) because of their history of crappy methods, and Suffolk (Clinton +2) for the reasons I mentioned a while ago that made it clear they were unreliable. That leaves these 4... _________Concord__CNN__Rasm.__Mason-Dixon Obama.........34..........33.......39.........33 Clinton.........33..........33.......27.........31 (Avg -3.75) Edwards.......23..........20.......18.........17 (Avg -12.75) Richardson....4............4.........8...........7 (Avg -29) So there they are - the post-Iowa NH polls that are worth their salt. If Obama wins NH... with SC the next primary that actually counts (MI has been shunned by the DNC for moving theirs too early), and Obama sure to get some strength there... Its hard to imagine him being caught now. I think Obama only loses the nomination now if Edwards bows out and endoreses Clinton. And I doubt that will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshot7 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 01:36 PM) Because us Iowans are awesome, that's why. Iowans might be okay, but Iowa f***ing sucks. that's the troof! what a wasteland........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshot7 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 01:22 PM) Because it's not the general election, it's a PARTY primary and there are national, state, and local implications. Don't see why that proves me wrong. If they're all on the same day, we'd know instantly who the candidates were, and with candidates forced to talk to the largest populations, small states get screwed. At least, I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 04:31 PM) If Obama wins NH... with SC the next primary that actually counts Isn't Nevada before SC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 6, 2008 Author Share Posted January 6, 2008 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 04:40 PM) Isn't Nevada before SC? Both 1/19 as far as I see on the calendar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 04:43 PM) Both 1/19 as far as I see on the calendar. 1/19 is a GOP only primary in SC. Dems vote on 1/26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 New CNN poll. Obama 39% Clinton 29% Edwards 16% LINK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 She might as well pack it in... In Nashua, Hillary skates on the edge of Iraq revisionism: "After 9/11, I would never have taken us to war in Iraq," she said. "I would have stayed focused on Afghanistan because the real threat was coming from there." Now, that's probably true in the literal, alternate history sense: As president, she wouldn't have taken the U.S. into war. But it also revives a conversation that had flagged, about her initial vote for the use of force. UPDATE: Obama spokesman Bill Burton takes a shot: Hillary Clinton may try to rewrite history, but it's hard to believe she didn't know what would happen after she voted for a resolution with the title "A Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq." While Hillary Clinton continues to make the same kind of attacks that voters are rejecting, Barack Obama will continue telling voters about his consistent opposition to the war in Iraq from the start, and his plan to bring our troops home. LINK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Hmmm...today's media coverage. •“Fox News Sunday,” Guests: Republican presidential candidates Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, Mike Huckabee of Arkansas. •NBC’s “Meet the Press,” — Guests: Republican presidential candidate John McCain of Arizona. •ABC’s “This Week,” — Guests: Republican presidential candidates Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, Mike Huckabee of Arkansas; Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards of North Carolina. •CBS’ “Face the Nation,” — Guests: Republican presidential candidate John McCain of Arizona. •CNN’s“Late Edition,” — Guests: Republican presidential candidates Mike Huckabee of Arkansas, Ron Paul of Texas, Fred Thompson of Tennessee; Democratic presidential candidate Bill Richardson of New Mexico; Mahmud Ali Durrani, Pakistan’s ambassador to the United States. Can someone tell me what's missing there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 05:28 PM) Hmmm...today's media coverage. Can someone tell me what's missing there? Clinton declined an appearance on Meet the Press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 05:28 PM) Hmmm...today's media coverage. Can someone tell me what's missing there? Yep. I sure can. They are trying to bury the fact that Hillary got her ass kicked in Iowa, by focusing on the GOP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 03:51 PM) Yep. I sure can. They are trying to bury the fact that Hillary got her ass kicked in Iowa, by focusing on the GOP. You know what, you've figured it out, you're right, we're on to their secret liberal media plan. "This Republican field is so bad, the best way to help the Dems is to put all of the Republican candidates on TV constantly and let them make fools of themselves. That'll build the Dem brand more than anything - giving all our airtime to Republicans!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 05:28 PM) Hmmm...today's media coverage. Can someone tell me what's missing there? All the interviews you listed are on a rotation between Dems and GOP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 7, 2008 Author Share Posted January 7, 2008 Polls are just pouring in now for NH. New ones over the 1/5-1/6 period (I'll just list the leader and lead)... CNN: Obama +10 Suffolk: Obama +1 Gallup: Obama +13 Pierce: Obama +3 Str. Vis.: Obama +9 Those are the leads over Clinton. Edwards is running anywhere from 14 to 23 points behind Obama, and is no closer than 9 points behind Clinton. Anyone else notice during the NH debate that Edwards aligned himself with Obama pretty clearly? Not sure if that's because he sees that as the winning route, or if he thinks it benefits him to get rid of Clinton, or if Obama and Edwards are approaching some sort of deal... could be any combination of those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Gosh I hope not. I think Obama can do a LOT better then Edwards, if that time comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 06:25 PM) You know what, you've figured it out, you're right, we're on to their secret liberal media plan. "This Republican field is so bad, the best way to help the Dems is to put all of the Republican candidates on TV constantly and let them make fools of themselves. That'll build the Dem brand more than anything - giving all our airtime to Republicans!" It's much better for them to do that than focus on 'The Chosen One' as she goes down the drain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 7, 2008 -> 11:17 AM) Gosh I hope not. I think Obama can do a LOT better then Edwards, if that time comes. I really don't see what Edwards would bring to Obama's campaign. His biggest knock is his lack of experience, and Edwards doesn't have any more than he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Iowa has been a huge push for Obama, as he has gone from even to a double digit lead since then. Wow. Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead? Stay tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 7, 2008 -> 11:40 AM) Iowa has been a huge push for Obama, as he has gone from even to a double digit lead since then. Wow. Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead? Stay tuned. Follow the yellow Barack road? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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