HuskyCaucasian Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 QUOTE(knightni @ Jan 27, 2008 -> 06:41 PM) I'm guessing Seh - BELL - ee - us thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Sebelius She's looking a little rough for 59. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Vote Obama, the man goes for West Ham; The key question hagning over Barack Obama's White House credentials has been answered - the Democrat has been revealed to be a West Ham United fan. As the 46-year-old's campaign to become America's first black president moves into overdrive, Obama has declared his fondness for the Claret and Blues quarter of east London. According to reports, the US senator has been a fan of the Hammers ever since a trip to England five years ago and watches Premier League games whenever his busy schedule allows. Obama's revelation could stir up tensions with Democrat rival Hillary Clinton further as the 60-year-old and her husband Bill are keen Manchester United followers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 Toni Morrison, the woman who called Bill Clinton the "first black President", endorses Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 this is good news for Obama: Refko Arrested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 QUOTE(Reddy @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 11:09 AM) this is good news for Obama: Refko Arrested He was already under indictment and bonded out. They brought him in because they were concerned about some money movement. It certainly isn't good to have his name resurrected, but, its not anything significant. It definitely looks like a good move on Obama's campaign's part when they sent around that picture of him with the Clintons. Sort of takes the edge off the accusations a bit, and helps them out here. Obama's involvement with Rezko wasn't that big anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 11:16 AM) He was already under indictment and bonded out. They brought him in because they were concerned about some money movement. It certainly isn't good to have his name resurrected, but, its not anything significant. It definitely looks like a good move on Obama's campaign's part when they sent around that picture of him with the Clintons. Sort of takes the edge off the accusations a bit, and helps them out here. Obama's involvement with Rezko wasn't that big anyway. I don't know that I would go that far, there was some strange dealings with the purchases back and forth of their lands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I've never heard Teddy Kennedy talk before. he sounds a LOT like his brother John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 12:05 PM) I've never heard Teddy Kennedy talk before. he sounds a LOT like his brother John. He sounds a little like him, I wouldn't go as far as a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 12:02 PM) I don't know that I would go that far, there was some strange dealings with the purchases back and forth of their lands. As I understand it, there were a couple questionable land deals. I remember right after Obama announced he was running, that came up in the press, and I read into it at the time. It looked pretty grey - I am not sure how much if it was just stuff going on around an inexperienced Obama, versus how much he was really aware was going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 12:14 PM) He sounds a little like him, I wouldn't go as far as a lot. oh I thought I heard a lot of his inflections and pacing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 12:15 PM) As I understand it, there were a couple questionable land deals. I remember right after Obama announced he was running, that came up in the press, and I read into it at the time. It looked pretty grey - I am not sure how much if it was just stuff going on around an inexperienced Obama, versus how much he was really aware was going on. Here is the original ST article. To me it doesn't pass the sniff test. In the grand scheme of things it isn't as dirty as some of the Clinton stuff we saw, but it reeks none the less. http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/1211...brown02.article Obama's dealings with Rezko buy a parcel of questions November 2, 2006 BY MARK BROWN Sun-Times Columnist Sen. Barack Obama may have thought a wrought iron fence would give him all the separation he needed from indicted Wilmette businessman Antoin "Tony" Rezko. But before everything is said and done, our star senator is going to wish he'd done a lot more a lot sooner to distance himself from his longtime political supporter. On Wednesday, the other newspaper reported to our surprise that Obama and Rezko, in effect, are neighbors, having separately purchased adjoining parcels of the Kenwood estate where Obama lives. Adding to the strangeness of the coincidence is that they each closed their purchase on the same day. Since their original purchases, Rezko has sold Obama an additional 10-foot strip of his lot (1,500 square feet total) to give the senator's family extra elbow room and erected an architecturally correct wrought iron fence fence to match the historically significant one that already surrounded the properties. There's no known quid pro quo here. Obama said he's done nothing to benefit Rezko through his government activities, and I don't know otherwise. Obama appears to have paid a fair price for the land he bought from Rezko. To fully appreciate, though, what a cozy arrangement this is, you'd practically have to see the site for yourself. Unfortunately, it's probably not fair for me to print the address of Obama's home, given the security risk to his family that has been created by his growing celebrity status. So I'll just describe it for you. I drove down there Wednesday morning to see for myself. 'I don't recall' The Obamas' mansion, which they bought for $1.65 million in June 2005, sits on a not-so-quiet corner amid other mansions. They purchased it after Obama struck his $1.9 million book deal with Random House and Crown Publishers, a loophole in the ethics laws that limit how members of Congress can make money on the side. It's an impressive place from the outside, a stately Georgian revival built in 1910 with the tall wrought iron fence encircling an ample side yard. The fence has a three-foot concrete base that also wraps around the property, and inside that, a row of tall evergreens that help provide a degree of privacy. The previous owners treated it all as one estate, but chose to offer it for sale as two separate properties with the side yard becoming the second parcel. It's this parcel that Rezko came to purchase for $650,000. From the street, you still wouldn't know these are now separate properties unless you spotted the newly erected fence that divides them. Some neighbors didn't notice before Wednesday. How exactly it came to pass that Rezko bought this parcel needs a better explanation. All I know is what Obama told the Tribune. He didn't have time to come to the phone for me. "I don't recall exactly what our conversations were or where I first learned, and I am not clear what the circumstnces were where he made a decision that he was interested in the property," Obama reportedly said. "I may have mentioned to him the name of [a developer and] he may at that point have contacted that person. I'm not clear about that," he said. A question of judgment You'd get the impression that the normally glib Obama was dissembling. It would appear to me that Rezko was trying to do Obama a favor by buying the property, the extent of the favor dependent on whether or how Rezko developed his parcel. Obama said it was always his understanding that Rezko, a real estate developer, intended to build on the lot. It would be more of a favor if he didn't. Rezko definitely did Obama a favor by selling him the 10-foot strip of land, making his own parcel less attractive for development, although still legally buildable. Rezko is somebody who collects politicians, doing them favors in hopes of a future return on his investment. His main foot in the door is political fund-raising, but he also looks for a more personal approach, such as steering real estate business to the wife of Gov. Blagojevich. The only thing that separates Rezko from other insiders who play this game is that he seems to operate under a longer time frame, not necessarily seeking an immediate payback. Rezko's MO is such that any smart, honest politician should have kept him at arm's length long before last month's indictment, wherein may lie Blagojevich's excuse. But what of Obama, the political wunderkind from whom so much is expected because so much talent and promise has been given? What's his excuse? I'm one of those who nominated Obama for his place in American history before he even got to Washington. People ask me what he has accomplished to deserve all this attention, and what I tell them is that it's not what he's done as much as what he could do. His potential is vast and undeniable. But now we must question his judgment -- no small matter in a man who would be president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 That was a pretty awesome rally for Obama. The Kennedys sounded great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 12:34 PM) Here is the original ST article. To me it doesn't pass the sniff test. In the grand scheme of things it isn't as dirty as some of the Clinton stuff we saw, but it reeks none the less. http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/1211...brown02.article OK, I read it. At the time I read the Trib (I usually avoid the Sun Times). I still see the same thing - it doesn't look squeeky clean, but frankly, I don't see anything too underhanded about it either. No pay for play. Just Obama and Rezko trying to help each other out financially. The only sleeze in that was Obama getting involved with the guy at all - that was his mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Time's Mark Halperin gives 6 reasons why the Kennedy endorsement is huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 12:47 PM) OK, I read it. At the time I read the Trib (I usually avoid the Sun Times). I still see the same thing - it doesn't look squeeky clean, but frankly, I don't see anything too underhanded about it either. No pay for play. Just Obama and Rezko trying to help each other out financially. The only sleeze in that was Obama getting involved with the guy at all - that was his mistake. If I am understanding the story, the "dirt" is Obama has a sleazy neighbor who he bought some property from. Seems like untiol there is more confirmed, not much of a story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 (edited) Obama's South Carolina speech has passed up a topless video of Britney Spears as the #1 video on Youtube, and is now #2 on the list of "favorited" videos. #1 on that list of course is a Ron Paul video. Edited January 28, 2008 by Balta1701 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 04:22 PM) Obama's South Carolina speech has passed up a topless video of Britney Spears as the #2 video on Youtube. #1 of course is a Ron Paul video. There's a topless Britney video on Youtube? I mean... yeah, that was a heck of a speech! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 02:23 PM) There's a topless Britney video on Youtube? I mean... yeah, that was a heck of a speech! The question now is...which one of those 2 options would you actually want to see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 04:31 PM) The question now is...which one of those 2 options would you actually want to see? No comment, Senator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 04:23 PM) There's a topless Britney video on Youtube? It's WAY over rated. She's working on a dance routine when she goes to change into a shirt and her right boobs shows for like 1 second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Momentum is gaining that Edwards will be named Attorney General by Obama... Novak: Edwards Working With Obama Uploaded by dollarsandsense123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Because nothing says credibility to me, especially when talking about Democratic politics, more than Robert Novak appearing on Cavuto's show on Fox News. Yeah, that just screams "high level sources inside the Democratic party". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 05:21 PM) Because nothing says credibility to me, especially when talking about Democratic politics, more than Robert Novak appearing on Cavuto's show on Fox News. Yeah, that just screams "high level sources inside the Democratic party". I dont think he is the only one saying it. That is just the one video source I could find. On the record... I dont trust Fox News. It was just the only video I could find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 29, 2008 Author Share Posted January 29, 2008 QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Jan 28, 2008 -> 05:19 PM) Momentum is gaining that Edwards will be named Attorney General by Obama... Novak: Edwards Working With Obama Uploaded by dollarsandsense123 Its possible of course. But here is the thing. I'd contend that it is better for Obama to have Edwards stay in the race through Super Tuesday - he is taking away some of Clinton's votes I think. Then after SDOGPEIT, when Clinton will probably have a narrow lead, Edwards can take all those delegates and support and throw them to Obama (we can only hope). That could be the difference maker. If Edwards were to drop out and endorse Obama right now, some of those Edwardians would go to Clinton, and Obama wouldn't have the benefits of those delegates at convention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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