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QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 11:34 AM)
And all of a sudden, McCain is the liberal media darling again. Now why is that? Now I'll tell you...

 

It's because the conservatives have vetted Huckabee and can't stand the idiot. The media was salivating over Huckabee because he would be easy fodder to become the "right wing nut" during the nomination process and leadup to election day. As YASNY pointed out, McCain is nothing but a jackass in an elephant suit, which is why people like NSS like him. Think about it.

So who do you support?

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LOL. Here is a list of their clients. You can pick any of them to blame if you chose. I highly doubt Ron Paul had anything to do with it.

 

Governors

 

Frank Murkowski (Alaska)

Vic Atiyeh (Oregon)

Phil Batt (Idaho)

Butch Otter (Idaho)*

Garrey Carruthers (New Mexico)

Judy Martz (Montana)

Kay Orr (Nebraska)

Marc Racicot (Montana)

Stan Stephens (Montana)

Pete Wilson (California)

* Denotes current officeholder

U.S. Senators

 

Conrad Burns (Montana)

Susan Collins (Maine)*

Bob Dole (Kansas)

Dan Evans (Washington)

Slade Gorton (Washington)

Mark Hatfield (Oregon)

Jim McClure (Idaho)

Lisa Murkowski (Alaska)*

Bob Packwood (Oregon)

Gordon Smith (Oregon)*

Steve Symms (Idaho)

* Denotes current officeholder

U.S. Representatives

 

Todd Akin (Missouri)*

Rob Bishop (Utah)*

Jim Bunn (Oregon)

Chris Cannon (Utah)*

Rod Chandler (Washington)

Jon Christensen (Nebraska)

Wes Cooley (Oregon)

Gil Gutknecht (Minnesota)

Doc Hastings (Washington)

Rick Hill (Montana)

Steve Horn (California)

Jim Jordan (Ohio)*

Steve Kuykendall (California)

Doug Lamborn (Colorado)*

Dan Lungren (California)*

Ron Marlenee (Montana)

Al McCandless (California)

Cathy McMorris Rodgers (Washington)*

Jack Metcalf (Washington)

John Miller (Washington)

Jerry Moran (Kansas)

Sid Morrison (Washington)

Marilyn Musgrave (Colorado)*

Butch Otter (Idaho)

Ron Packard (California)

Ron Paul (Texas)*

Richard Pombo (California)

Dennis Rehberg (Montana)*

James Rogan (California)

Steve Schiff (New Mexico)

Mike Simpson (Idaho)*

Joe Skeen (New Mexico)

Bob Smith (Oregon)

Linda Smith (Washington)

Randy Tate (Washington)

Greg Walden (Oregon)*

Don Young (Alaska)*

* Denotes current officeholder

 

Political Committees

 

National

Bush/Quayle 1992

Bush/Cheney 2000

Bush/Cheney 2004

Dole/Kemp 1996

National Association of Attorneys General

National Republican Congressional Committee

National Republican Senatorial Committee

Progress for America

Republican Governors Association

Republican National Committee

Republican State Leadership Committee

 

State/Local

Alaskan Republican House Caucus

Alaskan Republican Senate Caucus

California Republican Party

California State Assembly Republican Caucus

Colorado Republican Party

Gov. Schwarzenegger California Recovery Team

Kansas Republican House Caucus

Kansas Republican Party

Kansas Republican Senate Caucus

King County Republican Party (Washington)

Montana Republican Party

New Mexico Republican Party

Ohio House Republican Campaign Committee

Oregon House Republicans

Oregon Republican Party

Oregon Senate Republicans (The Leadership Fund)

Republican Party of Alaska

Republican Party of Minnesota

San Juan County Republicans (New Mexico)

The Trailhead Group

Utah Republican Party

Washington House Republicans (HROC)

Washington Senate Republicans (The Leadership Council)

Washington State Republican Party

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Clearly it was the remnants of Dole/Kemp '96.... hoping to get written in by the 15 GOP Iowans that will actually show up to their caucus tonight.

 

It's most definitely not beneath Ron Paul to do something like this btw. The guy isn't nearly as all about the love as his supporters would make you believe. It's a desperate act from a guy who raised enough money that he should be competitive but won't be, because his supporters are so rabid, he just reminds everyone of Lyndon LaRouche.

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QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 05:07 PM)
Clearly it was the remnants of Dole/Kemp '96.... hoping to get written in by the 15 GOP Iowans that will actually show up to their caucus tonight.

 

It's most definitely not beneath Ron Paul to do something like this btw. The guy isn't nearly as all about the love as his supporters would make you believe. It's a desperate act from a guy who raised enough money that he should be competitive but won't be, because his supporters are so rabid, he just reminds everyone of Lyndon LaRouche.

 

We'll see. Nice to see the accusations fly. Of course I wouldn't put that past you, or a weak attempt at sarcasm claiming it was Dole/Kemp.

 

All current and former clients were listed to show how widely used this company is.

 

It's funny hearing the rabid lefties rant about how much they hate Ron Paul and his supporters because "they are crazy". Rex: pot kettle black. lol.

 

 

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QUOTE(mr_genius @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 11:18 PM)
We'll see. Nice to see the accusations fly. Of course I wouldn't put that past you, or a weak attempt at sarcasm claiming it was Dole/Kemp.

 

All current and former clients were listed to show how widely used this company is.

 

It's funny hearing the rabid lefties rant about how much they hate Ron Paul and his supporters because "they are crazy". Rex: pot kettle black. lol.

 

Ron Paul is pretty popular among "lefties" due to his stance on the War in Iraq and civil liberties (not all people who lean Democrat do so because they want a European socialist-lite government). I think he's more hated by the pro-Bush 25% than anyone else.

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Lol, if the GOP nominates this Huckabee guy, I'm voting Democrat out of spite and hoping for a massive landslide.

 

Edit: Unless it's against John Edwards. Than thats just the worst election choices ever. Maybe not even waste my time voting.

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QUOTE(mr_genius @ Jan 4, 2008 -> 02:10 AM)
Lol, if the GOP nominates this Huckabee guy, I'm voting Democrat out of spite and hoping for a massive landslide.

 

Edit: Unless it's against John Edwards. Than thats just the worst election choices ever. Maybe not even waste my time voting.

I agree. Edwards or Hillarity will make me vomit. If Huckabee gets it, but Obama wins, I would vote Obama, probably. And that's scary.

 

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QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 08:30 PM)
I agree. Edwards or Hillarity will make me vomit. If Huckabee gets it, but Obama wins, I would vote Obama, probably. And that's scary.

 

I agree with that too. Huckabee = win for Democrats.

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It will be interesting in the next few days to see what the Iowa results do to the NH polls for both parties.

 

for the GOP, I looked at the latest non-Zogby, non-ARG polls.

 

I am a little skeptical of the WHDH/Suffolk tracking poll, because if you look at its day-to-day results, they are all over the place. For example, McCain's numbers for the last few days (PRIOR to Iowa, so no effect there yet), have gone 31-32-29-25, which is a big set of swings. Romney 25-23-25-29, Giuliani 14-11-9-9... the swings are just too big, compared to when, say, Rasmussen does a tracking poll, they tend to only shift a point in a day, maybe two at most.

 

The Franklin Pierce poll has a pretty low number at 419 polled, so I am a bit skeptical there too.

 

CNN's poll uses 1000 correspondants. Looking at those two...

 

___________Pierce__CNN

McCain...........37........29

Romney..........31........29

Huckabee........5.........10

Giuliani...........10........12

Paul................6..........7

Thompson........2..........2

 

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I think it really is a bodily function for him.

He flatlined in Iowa and he's struggling in New Hampshire, but Rudy Giuliani shook off the early-state blues Thursday as only he can.

 

"None of this worries me - Sept. 11, there were times I was worried," Giuliani said.

 

"We're sitting in a pretty good position right now. So we're not worried and not concerned," he told a news conference here. "Maybe other people acted nervous in a situation like this, but this is not unexpected."

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Meanwhile, here's a McCain one yesterday for folks to chew on, from a town meeting in New Hampshire yesterday (video at link).

Q: President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years — (cut off by McCain)

 

McCAIN: Make it a hundred.

 

Q: Is that … (cut off)

 

McCAIN: We’ve been in South Korea … we’ve been in Japan for 60 years. We’ve been in South Korea 50 years or so. That would be fine with me. As long as Americans …

 

Q: [tries to say something]

 

McCAIN: As long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed. That’s fine with me, I hope that would be fine with you, if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where Al Queada is training and equipping and recruiting and motivating people every single day.

 

Never mind, here's vid.

 

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