fathom Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Ugh....another grounder right back up the middle. I really wish he'd go for the K when he gets 2 strikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 God, our offense is absolutely f***ing disgusting right now. Why is Greg Walker still a f***ing paid coach in this league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 QUOTE(caulfield12 @ Apr 27, 2007 -> 08:07 PM) There's a 4 MPH difference between his peak and where he's throwing at now (97 versus 93), but it's very cold and it's April in Chicago. I expect him at 94-95 again, not sure if we'll ever see the peak Contreras of late 2005 and early 2006. Okay when the Count was pitching well in 05 and in 06 he was a 3/4 delivery. He would drop down once in a whle to give a righty a different look. He would pound the zone with hard moving fastballs, and would get out on the splitter. April or not, after his back injury last year he dropped down all the time. Which is something pitchers do when their back hurts You either drop down, or you dont follow through and leave the ball up all the time. Throwing side arm all the time, is not condusive to 2 things. Velocity and his splitter. For a splitter to work, it must have a tumbling action. You snap the wrists, and drive down to get the back spin and in his case it acts like a knuckler. I dont know how you get that motion on a side arm delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Nicely turned double plays the last two innings. Can this offense get anything going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 anderson getting down the line pretty good there.... Count looks good to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Apr 28, 2007 -> 01:11 AM) God, our offense is absolutely f***ing disgusting right now. Why is Greg Walker still a f***ing paid coach in this league? KW deserves some blame also for not getting a new LF/leadoff man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Apr 27, 2007 -> 08:11 PM) Okay when the Count was pitching well in 05 and in 06 he was a 3/4 delivery. He would drop down once in a whle to give a righty a different look. He would pound the zone with hard moving fastballs, and would get out on the splitter. April or not, after his back injury last year he dropped down all the time. Which is something pitchers do when their back hurts You either drop down, or you dont follow through and leave the ball up all the time. Throwing side arm all the time, is not condusive to 2 things. Velocity and his splitter. For a splitter to work, it must have a tumbling action. You snap the wrists, and drive down to get the back spin and in his case it acts like a knuckler. I dont know how you get that motion on a side arm delivery. As long as he doesn't walk 4-5 hitters per game and elevate his pitch counts, he can still be a very effective pitcher at 91-93 MPH. Johan Santana usually throws in that 92-93 range as well. Santana has the change, Contreras has the forkball, although he doesn't throw the fork nearly as much as he used to. Despite his troubles this year, his IP/H ratio is very respectable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 27, 2007 -> 09:14 PM) KW deserves some blame also for not getting a new LF/leadoff man. Very true. And Ozzie for being a DB and thinking Erstad is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 QUOTE(caulfield12 @ Apr 27, 2007 -> 08:09 PM) And DH Fields against lefties with Dye in RF? I don't see us calling up both, especially with how Josh has been struggling at Charlotte. Look for a deal with someone like Jeremy Burnitz, Bernie Williams, Hollandsworth, Michael Tucker, etc. That's what I would do, at least. Send down Anderson so he can start daily, and we can DH Dye til we're sure he's alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 It's ok Konerko, you said it's good if you strikeout a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Konerko sure isn't helping himself or the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Good AB PK!!! : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Apr 27, 2007 -> 08:14 PM) Very true. And Ozzie for being a DB and thinking Erstad is good. Erstad has nothing to do with our offense collapsing in the last couple of weeks. He has been our best hitter the past five games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 27, 2007 -> 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> KW deserves some blame also for not getting a new LF/leadoff man. Oh come on. Pods has been much better than expected. If you're going to fault KW for anything offensively related it HAS to be giving Erstad to Ozzie to overplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 QUOTE(caulfield12 @ Apr 28, 2007 -> 01:14 AM) As long as he doesn't walk 4-5 hitters per game and elevate his pitch counts, he can still be a very effective pitcher at 91-93 MPH. Johan Santana usually throws in that 92-93 range as well. Santana has the change, Contreras has the forkball, although he doesn't throw the fork nearly as much as he used to. Despite his troubles this year, his IP/H ratio is very respectable. That's the problem, the forkball is non-existent right now. He's probably thrown only a handful of quality forkballs all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 QUOTE(caulfield12 @ Apr 27, 2007 -> 08:14 PM) As long as he doesn't walk 4-5 hitters per game and elevate his pitch counts, he can still be a very effective pitcher at 91-93 MPH. Johan Santana usually throws in that 92-93 range as well. Santana has the change, Contreras has the forkball, although he doesn't throw the fork nearly as much as he used to. Despite his troubles this year, his IP/H ratio is very respectable. He has been effective. But the dominant Jose, is an arm slot up. If he can move his arm slot to 3/4s again and regain his velocity, he is a legitimate ace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 I just got back home from getting food. What happened to Thome -- pulled in the first? Who's DHing now? Any word on the injury, or is it his rib? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 QUOTE(caulfield12 @ Apr 27, 2007 -> 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Erstad has nothing to do with our offense collapsing in the last couple of weeks. He has been our best hitter the past five games. Honestly, that means next to nothing. We got shut down by Cy Durbin, and Erstad did not drive in all 16 runs against the Royals (some people didn't think we should mention the positive offensive because it was the Royals.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 27, 2007 -> 08:17 PM) I just got back home from getting food. What happened to Thome -- pulled in the first? Who's DHing now? Any word on the injury, or is it his rib? One swing, out of the game. Most likely to the DL. Cintron is our DH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 27, 2007 -> 08:14 PM) KW deserves some blame also for not getting a new LF/leadoff man. Well, the one they brought back was hitting over .300 with a .387 OBP before he got hurt. I don't know why I always take the bait. Who else exactly was Kenny supposed to sign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 JD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fathom Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Dye!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Finally, a run. Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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