southsideirish71 Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(fathom @ May 23, 2007 -> 09:05 PM) It's true though.....we look terrible against good lefty starters. I wonder if Toby will make us look any better against Santana, C.C., etc. And guys with good sliders like Cy Guadin. Lets see if Greg can puff his chest out some more in interviews claiming the team is fixed. We face Shields, Kazmir, Johan, and boof in the next few games. He probably should of waited a week before doing his interviews. Shields has a .92 WHIP and has a 2.94 ERA with a 3-0 record. Oh and we have never faced him either. Edited May 24, 2007 by southsideirish71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 How did I know this thread would be back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 24, 2007 -> 08:40 AM) How did I know this thread would be back? It's kinda like Herpes, it never really goes away. It just flares up from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 This thread will not go away and neither will the Greg Walker ripfest. The reason the White Sox will struggle with this lineup is because they can not make a pitcher work. As good as Gaudin may be, there is no way he should have had under 80 pitches through 7 innings. The guy faced 18 batters through 6 innings. They simply do not make a pitcher work. If there isn't a homerun hit, this team will struggle. A pitcher only needs to be near the zone and they will swing. Cintron, Ozuna, Mackowiak, Erstad and to a degree AJ, Uribe and Crede are not pure power hitters. Yet the appraoch that they all have is to swing at everything close. Sometimes it works out but most of the time it doesn't. The ysit on pitches and can get away with it sometimes other times they look stupid. In a two inning span yesterday there were 3 strike-outs, foul out to the catcher, pop up on the infield and 5 hooper to second. Some balls were hit hard early but that passed after the third and did not come back until the 8th. I think they will hit Boonser and whoever they face Saturday. I would think the thing to do when facing Tampa would be to work the starter and get him out of there to get to the bullpen. The White Sox can not do this at all. A pitcher that is on is guaranteed to go 7 innings. I will use Gaudin, De Los Santos, Colon, Durbin, Elarton, Oldalis Perez as an example. These guys were able to put it cruise control against the White Sox because their appraoch was not good once the starter established himself. Look at the appraoch Oakland took. They hardly swung early in the count and took a ton of strikes. The White Sox may take strike one but then that is it, time to swing away. Good pitches are not taken for strike two or fouled off with two strikes. They are put in play, usually as a seven hopper or pop up on the infield. This is not Walker's fault these are the Chicago White Sox and what they all have always been in their careers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 So are we 0-47 or 0-50 against relievers right now? I know we didn't get a hit after the third inning today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 04:43 PM) So are we 0-47 or 0-50 against relievers right now? I know we didn't get a hit after the third inning today. Hell that is every game anymore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 04:43 PM) So are we 0-47 or 0-50 against relievers right now? I know we didn't get a hit after the third inning today. Walker wasn't at Saturday's game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 01:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Walker wasn't at Saturday's game. I know, I know, but the Sox didn't go 0-47 yesterday. I just got tired of seeing the multiple threads created about the same topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 (edited) We got a leadoff double in the 9th to end that 0 for 61, now we're 1 for our last 65 against bullpens!! That's outstanding, and it's not Walker's fault we couldn't get a guy home from 3rd with 1 out in either the first or last inning to lose by 1 either. Edited June 3, 2007 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 1 for 65 or 0 for 65, Walker still is not getting fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 When did Gary Ward get the ax? Didn't Von Joshua get the boot in May? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Tyler Clippard? lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 5, 2007 -> 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Tyler Clippard? lol. Before any more comments like this are made, SC said the Sox were 9-0 against Rookie pitchers this year. I'm shocked by that. Edited June 6, 2007 by santo=dorf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 5, 2007 -> 11:23 PM) Tyler Clippard? lol. You don't need to post your negativity you know. Take up a blog somewhere else or something. We all realize that the Sox are losing because they aren't hitting and their bullpen can't hold leads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jun 5, 2007 -> 10:22 PM) When did Gary Ward get the ax? Didn't Von Joshua get the boot in May? Ward was fired on May 19th, 2003. Von Joshua was fired in May 20th, 2001. This pile of propaganda is bulls*** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Juan Uribe's approach at the plate is terrible, and you could see it in that 8th inning at bat he had against Farnsworth. Farns hung three sliders up in the zone, but Uribe's not staying back on the ball at all -- he's just falling forward well before the pitch gets there. Uribe was at his best in September of 2005 when Hrniak or Frank Thomas were implementing that front leg 'tap' timing system. It allowed him to sit back on the ball and see it further into the zone. I don't want to try and act like a 'hitting expert' here, either -- believe me, I'm far from that -- but this looks so f***ing obvious to me. Uribe is sapping himself of power with the current way he's swinging the bat. Because he's stepping forward so soon before the ball gets to home plate, any power that he should be transferring from his back leg is sapped. Basically any power he has is coming from his arms, and I don't think that's a good thing. I'm so glad Greg Walker found it necessary to "fix" things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 well tonight's game against the Yankees was one of the worst offensive performances I've seen in a long time. The last few years the Sox have made a habit of making average pitchers look awesome, but tonight was a new low. The first 3 pitchers all had eras over 4.00, they were hanging BB and laying hittable FBs all night. It was so bad Hawk and DJ didn't even compliment the opposing pitchers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 5, 2007 -> 10:30 PM) Juan Uribe's approach at the plate is terrible, and you could see it in that 8th inning at bat he had against Farnsworth. Farns hung three sliders up in the zone, but Uribe's not staying back on the ball at all -- he's just falling forward well before the pitch gets there. Uribe was at his best in September of 2005 when Hrniak or Frank Thomas were implementing that front leg 'tap' timing system. It allowed him to sit back on the ball and see it further into the zone. I don't want to try and act like a 'hitting expert' here, either -- believe me, I'm far from that -- but this looks so f***ing obvious to me. Uribe is sapping himself of power with the current way he's swinging the bat. Because he's stepping forward so soon before the ball gets to home plate, any power that he should be transferring from his back leg is sapped. Basically any power he has is coming from his arms, and I don't think that's a good thing. I'm so glad Greg Walker found it necessary to "fix" things. Project 2007 Uribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 QUOTE(knightni @ Jun 5, 2007 -> 10:25 PM) You don't need to post your negativity you know. Take up a blog somewhere else or something. We all realize that the Sox are losing because they aren't hitting and their bullpen can't hold leads. Then what should people here do when we suck? Talk about how great we'll be when we "wake up"? QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jun 5, 2007 -> 10:24 PM) Before any more comments like this are made, SC said the Sox were 9-0 against Rookie pitchers this year. I'm shocked by that. Wow really? Who knew! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 (edited) http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/wh...T-joe04.article I can't even dignify this nonsense article with any more of a response, but I figured this needed it's own thread. Have at it, and remember this is the same man who voted A.J. Pierzynski 10th in MVP last year. Edited June 6, 2007 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Uh, that's a month old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Too bad we don't have a "Greg Walker Lynch Mob thread" that we could put this in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 5, 2007 -> 08:46 PM) Too bad we don't have a "Greg Walker Lynch Mob thread" that we could put this in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 5, 2007 -> 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Too bad we don't have a "Greg Walker Lynch Mob thread" that we could put this in... It's only natural for Whitesoxfan101 to start a thread on same three damn topics after each sox loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 I'll tell you this much: Many Sox fans were pining for the Texas Rangers hitting coach as a replacement for Walker over the past 8 months. Look how well Texas is hitting now. Perhaps he should be fired as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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