De La Hoya/Mayweather

[Y2HH]

This fight reminds me why Boxing is a dying sport... and MMA is the one with a future.

The Fight That Was to "Save Boxing" left alot to be desired IMO.

 

Exactly.

 

One guy ran away (backpeddling) the entire fight.

 

One guy tried to make a match of it, but didn't do much, either.

 

I would have given the fight to DeLaHoya just because he actually TRIED to do something exciting. That was 12 rounds of pitter-pat boredom. That match was judged like a figure skating championship. It wasn't about a fight, it was about who could out technical the other with non-power "power" shots. Meh. What a waste of a sport that was once beyond awesome.

 

The fundamental issue with the state of boxing today was showcased in this bout. My point is simply this: In the sport of boxing, there should be very VERY little room for debate. This match had a non-ending, where both sides could argue their case...and there in lies the problem. In boxing, there should be NO doubt about who wins. Period. There should be ONE clear cut winner.

 

And another thing. It should require MORE than a 2 point differential on score cards to unthrone a reigning champion. The challenger should have be do MUCH more than win by split by a mere two points (what happened) to get the title. You know...like the used to do it back in the day...when people still cared about boxing.

 

Meh.

 

Boxing as a sport is dead. And this didn't breath new life into it...it hurt it more.

 

And to those of you who were actually "entertained" by this waltz they performed last night, go back and watch some Ali or Marciano footage...and see what REAL boxing was like. Because this wasn't entertaining...it was a dance routine at best. And if I wanted to watch dance, I'd watch dancing with the stars...which I don't do, either.

[Milkman delivers]

Did anyone else find this fight to follow the exact same script as the new Rocky movie?

[ShoeLessRob]

Did anyone else find this fight to follow the exact same script as the new Rocky movie?

 

I said the same thing to a buddy of mine while watching it.

[Y2HH]

Did anyone else find this fight to follow the exact same script as the new Rocky movie?

 

Only the new Rocky movie had better boxing in it than this travishamockary.

[WHarris1]

If De La Hoya's attire looked like this:

http://www.theodora.com/flags/new/african-american.gif

 

I'd bet my bank account the African community would be outraged and it would've overshadowed the fight no matter how good it turned out to be. It's blatant disrespect.

Nah, Mayweather probably would have just gotten pissed and oh, I dunno...maybe taken advantage of the fact that he was participating in an organized with the person who disrespected him just 2 minutes after he was disrespected.

Edited May 6, 2007 by WHarris1

[nitetrain8601]

Nah, Mayweather probably would have just gotten pissed and oh, I dunno...maybe taken advantage of the fact that he was participating in an organized with the person who disrespected him just 2 minutes after he was disrespected.

 

Um no. Mayweather is the reason why the fight left for something to be desired. All he did was smile and backpedal the whole match, landed weak punches and won that way. I still am trying to understand how that one judge scored it 116-112 Mayweather.

[SoxFan1]

Um no. Mayweather is the reason why the fight left for something to be desired. All he did was smile and backpedal the whole match, landed weak punches and won that way. I still am trying to understand how that one judge scored it 116-112 Mayweather.

WTF is there to question? The fact that one judge gave De la Hoya the decision is ludicrous in itself? People came into the match thinking it was going to be some sort of all-out street fight. GMAFB. It's all about the tactics and that's how Mayweather won. De la Hoya only won 3 rounds. Just because you flail away at someone does not mean you won the round or the match. I assume you watch boxing, so you should know.

 

And you wanna talk about weak punches? Mayweather stood there and took about 8 shots in the kidney from De la Hoya and smiled. Didn't f***ing flinch. Clearly you are a De la Hoya supporter.

Edited May 7, 2007 by SoxFan1

[WHarris1]

Um no. Mayweather is the reason why the fight left for something to be desired. All he did was smile and backpedal the whole match, landed weak punches and won that way. I still am trying to understand how that one judge scored it 116-112 Mayweather.

If De la Hoya was offended by what Mayweather did he had the perfect opportunity to take it out on him.

[nitetrain8601]

WTF is there to question? The fact that one judge gave De la Hoya the decision is ludicrous in itself? People came into the match thinking it was going to be some sort of all-out street fight. GMAFB. It's all about the tactics and that's how Mayweather won. De la Hoya only won 3 rounds. Just because you flail away at someone does not mean you won the round or the match. I assume you watch boxing, so you should know.

 

And you wanna talk about weak punches? Mayweather stood there and took about 8 shots in the kidney from De la Hoya and smiled. Didn't f***ing flinch. Clearly you are a De la Hoya supporter.

 

I actually like Mayweather. Always hated De La Hoya because my father loved him and I always thought he was a puss. De La Hoya had punches that hurt and was rocking Mayweather's head back a couple of times, something Mayweather didn't do the whooooooole fight which pissed me off. He's so damn speedy and De La Hoya would get him in the corner. PBF would get out of it, but he wouldn't punch as soon as he did. As soon as he escaped he should've caught DLH with hooks to the face. The one time DLH look like he was sort of stunned, it was cas his knee bailed out on him at the end of the 11th (PBF never punched him).

 

PBF won rounds 1,7,10,11,12 IMO. Two of the judges had him losing the 12th, which surprised me big time. If PBF fought the whole fight like he did in the 1st and 12th, it would've made him a winner. It should've been a draw if nothing else. I hope both of them fight next time and they actually decide to box. DLH looked good with the jab, but used it seldom which didn't allow him to set up any combos other than body shots.

 

PBF did jack s*** to entertain me. I was looking forward to the "razzle, dazzle ass whooping" he said he would put on on 24/7. Sadly it never showed up.

 

If De la Hoya was offended by what Mayweather did he had the perfect opportunity to take it out on him.

 

He wouldn't abandon his strategy. He was trying to win the fight. And again, this has nothing to do with my point of Mayweather being disrespectful to a race and getting away with it.

[SoxFan1]

I actually like Mayweather. Always hated De La Hoya because my father loved him and I always thought he was a puss. De La Hoya had punches that hurt and was rocking Mayweather's head back a couple of times, something Mayweather didn't do the whooooooole fight which pissed me off. He's so damn speedy and De La Hoya would get him in the corner. PBF would get out of it, but he wouldn't punch as soon as he did. As soon as he escaped he should've caught DLH with hooks to the face. The one time DLH look like he was sort of stunned, it was cas his knee bailed out on him at the end of the 11th (PBF never punched him).

 

PBF won rounds 1,7,10,11,12 IMO. Two of the judges had him losing the 12th, which surprised me big time. If PBF fought the whole fight like he did in the 1st and 12th, it would've made him a winner. It should've been a draw if nothing else. I hope both of them fight next time and they actually decide to box. DLH looked good with the jab, but used it seldom which didn't allow him to set up any combos other than body shots.

 

PBF did jack s*** to entertain me. I was looking forward to the "razzle, dazzle ass whooping" he said he would put on on 24/7. Sadly it never showed up.

Even if DLH had kept with the jab, he wouldn't have won the fight. He was landing them pretty good, but I'm sure PFB would have adjusted. With his speed, he could have avoided a number of those jabs and got him with a right hook a few times. De la Hoya looked old and weak, whereas PBF looked youthful and fast. I am a bit surprised, and dissapointed, that he was so defensive all night but you have to remember, it's all about winning the fight and getting that belt. I'm sure PBF knew he probably wouldn't be able to knock De la Hoya out, so he stayed on the defensive and used him speed to pick his punches.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

I am a bit surprised, and dissapointed, that he was so defensive all night but you have to remember, it's all about winning the fight and getting that belt. I'm sure PBF knew he probably wouldn't be able to knock De la Hoya out, so he stayed on the defensive and used him speed to pick his punches.

 

Then don't go on and on and on about how you're gonna massacre him if your plan the whole time was to backpedal.

[nitetrain8601]

Even if DLH had kept with the jab, he wouldn't have won the fight. He was landing them pretty good, but I'm sure PFB would have adjusted. With his speed, he could have avoided a number of those jabs and got him with a right hook a few times. De la Hoya looked old and weak, whereas PBF looked youthful and fast. I am a bit surprised, and dissapointed, that he was so defensive all night but you have to remember, it's all about winning the fight and getting that belt. I'm sure PBF knew he probably wouldn't be able to knock De la Hoya out, so he stayed on the defensive and used him speed to pick his punches.

 

I disagree. PBF couldn't even get adjusted to being in the corner. Reason why he got out was because once DLH got him in the strike zone, he didn't swing more than half the time. That should've been the moment he fkd up Mayweather, but again, he didn't use his jab as much as he should've which didn't allow him to combo. Then he got tired in the latter rounds and he really didn't throw any punches until the 12th. PBF did look youthful and fast, but he was still feeling sting on the punches he was receiving.

 

You also shouldn't be surprised at how defensive he was. He's a complete technician and his whole style predicates on his defense. He doesn't have knockout type power, even when he's throwing haymakers, especially when he is facing a guy like Oscar. That's why I threw down 300 bucks that the fight would go all 12 rounds. Easiest bet of the night.

[SoxFan1]

Then don't go on and on and on about how you're gonna massacre him if your plan the whole time was to backpedal.

You have to understand, people were paying both of these guys tons of money to publicize the fight. The only reason for the pre-match BS was because of publicity and getting people interested. What do you want him to say? "Well, Mr. De la Hoya, I plan to use my defensive tactics to make you flail away at me while I circle around the ring and pick the right time to punch you." Of course not. People want to hear him say he was going to f*** him up and that he's a pussy, etc. It's all a ploy for publicity and money. That is obvious.

 

I disagree. PBF couldn't even get adjusted to being in the corner. Reason why he got out was because once DLH got him in the strike zone, he didn't swing more than half the time. That should've been the moment he fkd up Mayweather, but again, he didn't use his jab as much as he should've which didn't allow him to combo. Then he got tired in the latter rounds and he really didn't throw any punches until the 12th. PBF did look youthful and fast, but he was still feeling sting on the punches he was receiving.

 

You also shouldn't be surprised at how defensive he was. He's a complete technician and his whole style predicates on his defense. He doesn't have knockout type power, even when he's throwing haymakers, especially when he is facing a guy like Oscar. That's why I threw down 300 bucks that the fight would go all 12 rounds. Easiest bet of the night.

My main thing is that I can't believe people think De la Hoya won. A draw, possibly. But the fact that De la Hoya had numerous rounds with less than 10 connections is just amazing. And it proves that Mayweather's speed and defensive tactics were just too much.

[Gregory Pratt]

Slavko, I might be boxing someone about your height relatively soon but he's about 220. Dunno how much you weigh. He's two inches shorter than you.

 

We should get together and work on some things.

 

I need a model around your height.

 

<___>

[SoxFan1]

Slavko, I might be boxing someone about your height relatively soon but he's about 220. Dunno how much you weigh. He's two inches shorter than you.

 

We should get together and work on some things.

 

I need a model around your height.

 

<___>

I weight 207. If it's a boxing match, then stay closed and use your speed to pick your punches. If it's a fight, kick his knee in and wail away. But don't do that, cuz that just sucks.

[Gregory Pratt]

I weight 207. If it's a boxing match, then stay closed and use your speed to pick your punches. If it's a fight, kick his knee in and wail away. But don't do that, cuz that just sucks.

 

You and I both know that, man. I recently had a scare after a baserunning incident.

 

CHECK YOUR PMs!

Check your PMS, too. I can't stand that s***, pansy.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_ylt=Avzu...o&type=lgns

[SoxFan1]

http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_ylt=Avzu...o&type=lgns

$$$ + Publicity = how Don King killed a sport

[Rowand44]

I wouldn't have argued the decision either way on this fight. Yes, statistically it seemed like De Le Hoya basically got owned but that's not what you saw when you watched the fight. Oscar did control that fight from start to finish, Mayweather was defensive and didn't do much in his own right. Neither guy hurt the other that much to be perfectly honest and Floyd basically did nothing the whole fight except sit on the ropes. I was waiting for him to try and go for the kill in the later rounds but he did nothing.

 

I enjoyed the fight and certainly can't argue the decision, but I definitely think it could have went Oscar's way as well.

 

And you wanna talk about weak punches? Mayweather stood there and took about 8 shots in the kidney from De la Hoya and smiled. Didn't f***ing flinch. Clearly you are a De la Hoya supporter.

Plenty of boxers have done that before, even when they're getting hurt.

Edited May 7, 2007 by Rowand44

[nitetrain8601]

I wanna see a rematch dangit!

[southsideirish71]

I wanna see a rematch dangit!

 

Boxing is dead. And you can thank Don King and the lack of viable talent in this space.

 

Matt Hughes and just about half of his weight class would put both of these boys down in about a minute. They have a punchers chance of catching one of them, but in reality is a slaughter. This is why UFC and MMA is so great. You get all styles. And now with Pride being bought up by UFC, you will see something that takes years in boxing. Superfights. First one is coming up with Lidell versus Jackson. Kro Kop got knocked the f*** out or he would of setup another superfight. At the end of the year they are going to have a champion versus champion UFC versus Pride. That will be worth my money on pay per view.

[RockRaines]

Mayweather put together a perfectly technical win.

 

Once again proving why the UFC and MMA is gaining and soon surpassing boxing in popularity.

[SoxFan562004]

I think I would agree with the 115/113 score card for PBF. DeLa Hoya put on a better showing than I thought. Mayweather's hand speed amazes me, and thought if he pressed more he could have done more damage.

[RockRaines]

I think I would agree with the 115/113 score card for PBF. DeLa Hoya put on a better showing than I thought. Mayweather's hand speed amazes me, and thought if he pressed more he could have done more damage.

He just didnt need to. His hands hurt him nowadays and he was beating Oscar on the scorecards no problem. Thats boxing.

[SoxFan562004]

Boxing is dead. And you can thank Don King and the lack of viable talent in this space.

 

Matt Hughes and just about half of his weight class would put both of these boys down in about a minute. They have a punchers chance of catching one of them, but in reality is a slaughter. This is why UFC and MMA is so great. You get all styles. And now with Pride being bought up by UFC, you will see something that takes years in boxing. Superfights. First one is coming up with Lidell versus Jackson. Kro Kop got knocked the f*** out or he would of setup another superfight. At the end of the year they are going to have a champion versus champion UFC versus Pride. That will be worth my money on pay per view.

A more reasonable fight for a MMA/Boxer IMO would be Sean Sherk or Gomi. Hughes fights at 170, and Mayweather and DeLa Hoya are at about 150-155.