TheHolyBovine Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 I'm not bitter, angry, or impatient...Just honest. This team is old and unathletic. It has average power, no speed, no patience (as in OBP), and poor defense. I will be forever in debt to these guys for 2005, but it's time to strip this rusty machine down and start again. Assuming you can get value for them, get rid of every player north of 30 you possibly can (with the possible exception of Konerko). If all went right for this team, it would still be an 88 win team. That's not good enough in this division, where your chief contenders are both younger and more talented than you are. It's time to build for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 It will happen soon enough. Danks is the only person who I will lose a second of sleep over if they're traded. The talent level in our organization is frighteningly low right now, despite Hawk and DJ saying how much talent we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 I like our bullpen. Everything else, I don't really give a crap about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitlesswonder Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ May 4, 2007 -> 10:29 PM) It will happen soon enough. Danks is the only person who I will lose a second of sleep over if they're traded. The talent level in our organization is frighteningly low right now, despite Hawk and DJ saying how much talent we have. Really? I would trade Danks. It's not like he's Liriano or Verlander. He has a Buehrlesque fastball. He's doing OK as a 22 year-old 5th starter in the AL, but I don't see any reason why he should be untouchable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ May 4, 2007 -> 08:55 PM) Buehrlesque Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ May 5, 2007 -> 03:55 AM) Really? I would trade Danks. It's not like he's Liriano or Verlander. He has a Buehrlesque fastball. He's doing OK as a 22 year-old 5th starter in the AL, but I don't see any reason why he should be untouchable. Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ May 4, 2007 -> 11:01 PM) Wow I talked to you in the other thread about people who want to rebuild or people who want to reload. This I don't understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ May 4, 2007 -> 10:55 PM) Really? I would trade Danks. It's not like he's Liriano or Verlander. He has a Buehrlesque fastball. He's doing OK as a 22 year-old 5th starter in the AL, but I don't see any reason why he should be untouchable. If by "OK" you mean "outstanding" then yes, I agree. NOTE: I've been using this writing style a lot lately and I must say I do like it quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ May 4, 2007 -> 11:11 PM) If by "OK" you mean "outstanding" then yes, I agree. NOTE: I've been using this writing style a lot lately and I must say I do like it quite a bit. If by "quite a bit" you mean "a helluva lot" then yes, it's evident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitlesswonder Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 Alright, I'm not saying that I'd trade Danks for scrap but I wouldn't make him untouchable. If an offer came with a young position player that had proven he could hit major league pitching I think the Sox should consider it. I'm not saying that Danks hasn't impressed me -- he has. But I don't see him becoming an ace, just becuase he doesn't have that kind of stuff. Not that it matters, but Sickels projection for him wasn't great -- he thought he was an injury risk ans that his numbers had never lived up to the hype. That's probably excessive, but the bottom line is that he doesn't look like the next Johan Santana. Danks is valuable, and it should take a good deal to get him. But I wouldn't label him untouchable -- that's all I was saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ May 4, 2007 -> 11:12 PM) If by "quite a bit" you mean "a helluva lot" then yes, it's evident. I've only done it twice today so I'm not exactly going overboard. You best get used to it though because I'm going to be using it even more often in the coming days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ May 4, 2007 -> 11:15 PM) I've only done it twice today so I'm not exactly going overboard. You best get used to it though because I'm going to be using it even more often in the coming days. Feel free to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ May 4, 2007 -> 11:15 PM) I've only done it twice today so I'm not exactly going overboard. You best get used to it though because I'm going to be using it even more often in the coming days. Maybe I'm slow, but are you talking about the smaller text? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 QUOTE(Mr. Showtime @ May 4, 2007 -> 11:17 PM) Maybe I'm slow, but are you talking about the smaller text? No no. It's the classic, "If by '________' you mean '_________', then ______, I _______." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 QUOTE(Mr. Showtime @ May 4, 2007 -> 11:17 PM) Maybe I'm slow, but are you talking about the smaller text? No, I mean replacing the words and ideas of others with those of my own and then agreeing to the statement. QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ May 4, 2007 -> 11:18 PM) No no. It's the classic, "If by '________' you mean '_________', then ______, I _______." Yeah, that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ May 4, 2007 -> 11:19 PM) No, I mean replacing the words and ideas of others with those of my own and then agreeing to the statement. Yeah, that. Oh. I guess I am slow then, I didn't pick up on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 At the end of the broadcast did it sound like Hawk was tired of making excuses for this team and is legitimately fed up like some of us have been for the past 2-3 weeks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ May 5, 2007 -> 04:34 AM) At the end of the broadcast did it sound like Hawk was tired of making excuses for this team and is legitimately fed up like some of us have been for the past 2-3 weeks? Absolutely....he's a homer, but he's not a total idiot. It's way too early for this team to give up the way it has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linnwood Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 It's going to be a very long season.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 i'm literally starting to dread watching sox games. that's a first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ May 4, 2007 -> 11:34 PM) At the end of the broadcast did it sound like Hawk was tired of making excuses for this team and is legitimately fed up like some of us have been for the past 2-3 weeks? I didn't see the end of the game. However, there seemed to be a few times tonight where both he and DJ said this was BS. Then they slip into "everything is cool" mode again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigHurt Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 I won't be able to watch the game tomorrow. Maybe that's a good thing. I can't wait to get that Ozzie bobblehead doll so I can take a hammer and demolish it with a smile on my face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 QUOTE(SnB @ May 4, 2007 -> 11:35 PM) i'm literally starting to dread watching sox games. that's a first. Break anything ala young Willie yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linnwood Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 QUOTE(Mr. Showtime @ May 4, 2007 -> 11:37 PM) Break anything ala young Willie yet? there were no blue chairs around....and my mom isn't around to get mad at me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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