whitesoxfan101 Posted May 15, 2007 Author Share Posted May 15, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(Texsox @ May 15, 2007 -> 08:03 AM) I agree with Kap that Bush tried to do the right thing. I really think he allowed his morality and integrity to guide decisions. I see a lot of parallels with Carter. I also believe that while 9/11 was his brightest moment, it also was the beginning of a long terrible slide. And perhaps any other human would have also slid. Perhaps at that moment he realized that while he was the most powerful person on the planet, he was also just one person and the world is a large and dangerous place, that he would not be able to control. I actually think that if they did a poll on this, the vast majority of Americans would agree with you (and me, I agree 110 percent with this). I really think most people think (and are right to think) that Bush probably isn't a bad guy at all personally. He simply has been a horrendous president, and part of the problem might be circumstances caused by 9/11 itself that anybody would have had trouble with. That is why in certain respects I do feel bad for him, because I don't think he's just a horrible person trying to suck at his job this bad, I really think he's trying to do the right thing and it just ends up being way off, in part due to how pigheaded and stubborn he is. The Carter parallels are for sure there. Edited May 15, 2007 by whitesoxfan101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 The one major difference between Carter and Bush is the economy. The bottom line is, if the economy were the same in 2004 as it was in 1980, JFK II would have won in a landslide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 QUOTE(kapkomet @ May 15, 2007 -> 09:28 AM) The one major difference between Carter and Bush is the economy. The bottom line is, if the economy were the same in 2004 as it was in 1980, JFK II would have won in a landslide. The interesting this is how similar many of the economic conditions in both eras were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damen Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 QUOTE(Texsox @ May 15, 2007 -> 08:03 AM) But if I had to leave my kids with Dubya or Slick Willy for a week, I'd rather they be with Dubya. Yeah, I'd rather have my daughter act like the bush twins over chelsea clinton too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 QUOTE(Damen @ May 15, 2007 -> 03:32 PM) Yeah, I'd rather have my daughter act like the bush twins over chelsea clinton too. I hate to break it to you but Chelsea (during her Oxford days) at the same age did the same stuff that the Bush twins did, so I'm not sure what you're trying to imply. Frankly, I don't care what they did. It has nothing to do with the point that was made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 QUOTE(Damen @ May 15, 2007 -> 10:32 AM) Yeah, I'd rather have my daughter act like the bush twins over chelsea clinton too. I guess you would also rather have her intimately aquainted with a cigar. Get over your BDS, will ya? He will be gone shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damen Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 QUOTE(kapkomet @ May 15, 2007 -> 10:59 AM) I hate to break it to you but Chelsea at the same age did the same stuff that the Bush twins did (during her Oxford days), so I'm not sure what you're trying to imply. Did she? I don't remember her getting in trouble, but its not something I really care to remember. Anyway, i'm not trying to get into a discussion about who's a better parent, it was just a joke. By the way, what is BDS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 QUOTE(Damen @ May 15, 2007 -> 11:12 AM) Did she? I don't remember her getting in trouble, but its not something I really care to remember. Anyway, i'm not trying to get into a discussion about who's a better parent, it was just a joke. By the way, what is BDS? Bush Derangement Syndrome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 QUOTE(Alpha Dog @ May 15, 2007 -> 04:23 PM) Bush Derangement Syndrome Which I think we all suffer from, anyway... no matter what party you lean towards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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