fathom Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I actually agree with Ozzie that Sweeney could use one more season in AAA in order to gain some strength. However, he's still a better option in LF than Mackowiak/Ozuna. It doesn't matter what we say though....once Pods is back, it's his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Does Guillen ever make the correct decision on anything? I have a feeling that the 2005 Series was an accidental success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
premo Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I just think that Ozzie needs to realize that what worked in 2005, isn't going to work forever. Players change, get older, some get better, some get worse. I figured that when Sweeney got called up, he'd just be another BA, and he'd be hitting .200 and we'd say "Well, he's young, and this is his first time up" Instead, he's looking like he good be a VERY productive member of this team for the rest of the season. Last night was the first time I actually got to see him play, and he looked terrific at the plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 QUOTE(premo @ May 10, 2007 -> 11:18 AM) I just think that Ozzie needs to realize that what worked in 2005, isn't going to work forever. Players change, get older, some get better, some get worse. I figured that when Sweeney got called up, he'd just be another BA, and he'd be hitting .200 and we'd say "Well, he's young, and this is his first time up" Instead, he's looking like he good be a VERY productive member of this team for the rest of the season. Last night was the first time I actually got to see him play, and he looked terrific at the plate. He's got a higher batting average than everyone but Thome and Erstad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Whether or not it is the right situation for the MLB team this year, at least Ozzie is correct on one thing: Anderson and Sweeney need to be playing every single day right now, because the odds are we're going to wind up needing both of them in the OF next season. Good to hear some positive words about BA as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ May 10, 2007 -> 10:55 AM) I actually agree with Ozzie that Sweeney could use one more season in AAA in order to gain some strength. However, he's still a better option in LF than Mackowiak/Ozuna. It doesn't matter what we say though....once Pods is back, it's his job. I think Ryan will develop power eventually, but I still think he looks like a #2 hitter to me. High OBP, tons of contact, sees alot of pitches, good speed. He kinda reminds me of Jeter putting fastballs oppo and pulls breaking balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 10, 2007 -> 04:44 PM) I think Ryan will develop power eventually, but I still think he looks like a #2 hitter to me. High OBP, tons of contact, sees alot of pitches, good speed. He kinda reminds me of Jeter putting fastballs oppo and pulls breaking balls. Yeah, he's never going to be a 20 homer guy. However, he still breaks a ton of bats right now, and he doesn't really have gap power. As we've mentioned, when he hits the ball real well to the opposite field, it's just a warning track fly out. I think he'll be a very good #2 hitter though, especially if he learns to clear his hips. He's already our best hitter at taking tough pitches and letting them go for balls. I wouldn't even mind if he struck out more on 3-2 pitches if that meant he turned on more pitches (of course, this is stuff he'll improve on as he goes along). Edited May 10, 2007 by fathom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Keep Sweeney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 QUOTE(Kalapse @ May 10, 2007 -> 10:14 AM) Ugh, this is one of those situations where KW needs to step in and make sure Sweeney doesn't see AAA for the rest of the season. I was just gonna say this Kalapse. Problem being then Ozzie gets all ass-hurt and tries to puff his nuts out and wouldn't ever play Sweeney.... JUST BECAUSE. "Eez my baw club...". You're right though...bottom line is it should be Kenny's decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I don't see any reason to send him down. Ozzie loves Sweeney. Keep him, damnit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 If Sweeney goes back to AAA when Thome comes back, Kenny REALLY needs to consider firing Ozzie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BainesHOF Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Some of you guys talking about Sweeney being a No. 2 hitter and that he'll never be a 20 home-run guy are nuts. He's a good hitter who'll become more powerful as his body matures and he works to become stronger. Sweeney's sweet slide into home plate Thursday is another reason to keep him on the roster. He's producing and playing with heart and emotion. Sending him down now would be a major mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ May 10, 2007 -> 12:44 PM) If Sweeney goes back to AAA when Thome comes back, Kenny REALLY needs to consider firing Ozzie. KW and Ozzie make the roster decisions together, I believe, and KW being the GM has the biggest say-so. So if that does happen, then I guess KW would need to fire himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 10, 2007 -> 08:39 AM) Color me confused on this. I keep reading Guillen's various quotes and it doesn't add up. Okay, how is Thome who is a DH, going to affect Sweeney who is a LF's playing time. The only person on the roster that could possibly come back on the active roster to affect Sweeney is Pods. Last time I checked he is targeted for June. So the real answer is, why wouldn't you play this kid ready or not and see what you have until Pods comes off the DL. Is sending him down, and putting the horror show of Ozuna/Mack in LF a good thing. Mack coming off the bench, being a pinch hitter. This is what I thought we picked him up for. Not to be a platoon match for LF. He was originally picked up to backup Crede at 3rd. Funny thats the position he has played the least. You play this kid until he either proves he is over matched, or a better option comes along. He works the count, puts the ball in play and makes things happen. For me this is a non issue. Maybe he means in relation to matchups. Sweeney being a Lefty Ozzie is probably talking about the schedule ahead and if we are slated to hit against a lot of righties or lefties. Over the last 6 games it has been all righties and a lot of sweeney. Im sure if we are supposed to face your Robertson, Cliff Lee, Sabathias and such Terrero would play instead of sweeney. So hes probably going to take a look at what kind of matchups are possible in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Hopefully Sweeney never follows the advice of Greg Walker when he tries to give it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 QUOTE(joeynach @ May 10, 2007 -> 02:35 PM) Maybe he means in relation to matchups. Sweeney being a Lefty Ozzie is probably talking about the schedule ahead and if we are slated to hit against a lot of righties or lefties. Over the last 6 games it has been all righties and a lot of sweeney. Im sure if we are supposed to face your Robertson, Cliff Lee, Sabathias and such Terrero would play instead of sweeney. So hes probably going to take a look at what kind of matchups are possible in the near future. Thome will probably be back Tuesday, so a move will have to be made by then. Upcoming Probables: TUES: Mussina ® WED: Wang ® THUR: Rasner ®/DeSalvo ® FRI: Guzman ® SAT: Lilly (L) SUN: Marque ® The Sox then face Oakland who only has one lefty starter (Kennedy) and Tampa who has Kazmir and Fossum That's 5/6 games vs righties then possibly 1 lefty in the next series and who knows who Tampa will throw out there so no that's not a legitimate excuse at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 10, 2007 -> 08:02 AM) To take this thread in a different direction: How freakin good does sweeney look? I mean, we have a top prospect who looks like he knows what the hell he is doing at the plate. Patience, hitting to both fields, making contact. You wouldnt know that he came up in our system if you saw him play. Isn't it great?? Like someone else said, we're getting great production from two rookies, Danks and Sweeney. I had no idea that Sweeney was that fast but once he gets out of the box he burns it down to first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Why would Sweeney be demoted instead of Terrero for Thome? I could understand (not really, but for argument's sake) if Pods was ready because they both play the same position, but Thome is not playing the outfield. Why would you want Terrero in LF every day? Or Mack? Why do that? Sweeney looks like an everyday player. We know Mack isn't. We know Terrero isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ May 10, 2007 -> 12:44 PM) If Sweeney goes back to AAA when Thome comes back, Kenny REALLY needs to consider firing Ozzie. This is such a tired act. Just put it in your sig and stop repeating it. We all know how you feel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonik22 Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I swear to god if Sweeney gets demoted...HE CAN PLAY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Sweeney has provided a spark-somewhat similar to the addition on Julio Cruz in 1983-the team has been better with him here. Only Guillen would disrupt things by sending him down. Judy Baar Topinka er.......Ozzie Guillen-Whats he thinking? By the way-does anyone miss Anderson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I usually support Ozzie, but if he makes this mistake. Well... I might just snap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 10, 2007 -> 08:54 AM) Sweeney is ready for this level. He is that good. He needs to keep producing and make them keep him here. Ditto all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Rowland Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(klaus kinski @ May 10, 2007 -> 03:31 PM) By the way-does anyone miss Anderson? Who? Edited May 10, 2007 by Beltin'Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 The only excuse for sending down Sweeney and keeping Terrero up at this point is that Terrero is right-handed. But that is BS because Sweeney vs. left handed pitching is 10x better then Terrero to begin with. Plus, Sweeney has showed the grinder mentality, to go along with his great eye, and + speed. The only thing he has done wrong so far is not hit for power, but that will come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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