EvilMonkey Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 http://www.inrich.com/cva/ric/news/policeb...05-25-0145.html Former ACLU leader makes plea deal Friday, May 25, 2007 - 12:08 AM Updated: 01:36 AM THE ASSOCIATED PRESS McLEAN -- A former president of the Virginia chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union is expected to plead guilty to criminal charges stemming from his arrest on child pornography possession charges, according to court records. A judge in U.S. District Court in Alexandria scheduled a June 1 plea agreement hearing for Charles Rust-Tierney, 51, of Arlington. It was not clear what charges would be included in the plea agreement. A grand jury indicted Rust-Tierney this month on one count each of receipt and possession of child pornography. A conviction at trial on both counts could have resulted in a prison sentence of 11 to 14 years, according to federal sentencing guidelines. Rust-Tierney, who also coached Little League baseball in Arlington, has been in jail since his arrest. At pretrial hearings, two judges refused to grant bail, describing the pornography in question as some of the most sickening they had ever encountered. Prosecutors said in court documents that Rust-Tierney spent nearly $1,000 between March 2005 and October 2006 on child pornography ordered over the Internet. His lawyer did not return calls seeking comment. Rust-Tierney was president of the ACLU's Virginia chapter from 2002 through 2005, according to the organization's newsletters. Court records state that Rust-Tierney had been working in the D.C. public defender's office and that he served one year as president of Arlington Little League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 (edited) At pretrial hearings, two judges refused to grant bail, describing the pornography in question as some of the most sickening they had ever encountered. Wow, thats saying something right there. Edited May 26, 2007 by kyyle23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 I guarantee you the MSM buries this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted May 26, 2007 Author Share Posted May 26, 2007 QUOTE(mr_genius @ May 26, 2007 -> 02:43 PM) I guarantee you the MSM buries this story. It has been buried. He was caught months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 QUOTE(mr_genius @ May 26, 2007 -> 02:43 PM) I guarantee you the MSM buries this story. Who gives a s***? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ May 26, 2007 -> 05:18 PM) Who gives a s***? obviously you do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 QUOTE(mr_genius @ May 26, 2007 -> 05:33 PM) obviously you do Another pedophile is caught *yawn*. Wake me up when there is some zombies or ninjas. Perhaps some samurai might make this "Teh liberal communist media is keeping us in the dark about a now unemployed ACLU worker from 2002 who was also a kiddie diddler!" hullabaloo a bit more interesting. Plenty of people who worked for plenty of different jobs and organizations have been busted being pedos. Why is this one going to be different and warrant front page coverage on every news outlet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ May 26, 2007 -> 05:53 PM) Another pedophile is caught *yawn*. Wake me up when there is some zombies or ninjas. Perhaps some samurai might make this "Teh liberal communist media is keeping us in the dark about a now unemployed ACLU worker from 2002 who was also a kiddie diddler!" hullabaloo a bit more interesting. Plenty of people who worked for plenty of different jobs and organizations have been busted being pedos. Why is this one going to be different and warrant front page coverage on every news outlet? meh, the media reports plenty of worthless stories. like some republican reverend is gay and it's 24-7 news. the media selects which news stories fit into there world view. President of the ACLU's Virginia chapter watches videos of kids getting raped? not news, doesn't fit into the ACLU = good view. Republican sends dirty email to intern? big news. Republican = evil, fits into their world view, thus it is deemed notable and important. also, zombies a big news story? IMO, hell yea. ninjas? not really. unless they were democrat freedom fighting ninjas! that would warrant a 5 piece series on 60 minutes, the series could show how noble and just these freedom fiighters truly are. John Edwards "I support these brave and noble ninjas" Edited May 26, 2007 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 QUOTE(mr_genius @ May 26, 2007 -> 06:04 PM) meh, the media reports plenty of worthless stories. like some republican reverend is gay and it's 24-7 news. the media selects which news stories fit into there world view. president of the ACLU's Virginia chapter watches videos of kids getting raped? not news, doesn't fit into the ACLU = good view. Republican sends dirty email to intern? big news. Republican = evil, fits into their world view, thus it is deemed notable and important. Um, Clinton's cock much? That was news for over a year. It fits into the mold of profit driven, lack of journalistic muckraking integrity to report on easy, trite issues that may not have anything to do with policy but are salacious enough to get people to tune in/buy a paper/get hits on their site and keep their advertising money up. And he wasn't president for over two years before he was caught. So, he was a regular citizen that was a member of their organization. There's plenty of members of numerous organizations that have idiots, whackjobs and outright douchebags that previously worked for them. When they are no longer an employee, it should not look badly upon the former employer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ May 26, 2007 -> 06:25 PM) Um, Clinton's cock much? can't say that i have. i did see a video of him committing felony perjury though. but i do agree with you that much of what the news covers is worthless crap. they want to get the "american idol" audience to watch more news, so they'll have a large segment on "is there really 2 scoops of raisins in raisin bran?" if 'raisin bran' donated an acceptable amount to the DNC then yes, there is two scoops, else no there is not. Edited May 26, 2007 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 meh, the media reports plenty of worthless stories. like some republican reverend is gay and it's 24-7 news. the media selects which news stories fit into there world view. president of the ACLU's Virginia chapter watches videos of kids getting raped? not news, doesn't fit into the ACLU = good view. Republican sends dirty email to intern? big news. Republican = evil, fits into their world view, thus it is deemed notable and important. I think a Congressman and a famous pastor are more significant public figures than a former president of a state chapter of the ACLU. Can you remember a story about a former leader of a state chapter of the NRA who had crimes that were heavily covered in the media? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ May 26, 2007 -> 06:25 PM) When they are no longer an employee, it should not look badly upon the former employer. well, i think it would be safe to way he was active President the ACLU's Virginia chapter when he committed many of these crimes. i bet those a lot those files date back to between 2000-2002. QUOTE(CrimsonWeltall @ May 26, 2007 -> 06:32 PM) a famous pastor are more significant public figures than a former president of a state chapter of the ACLU. not IMO. the ACLU has a lot of power. just the amount of damage they can cause to any entity with massive litigation alone is formitable. not to mention how they help shape policy that effects everyone. that pastor was really a nobody to most people. i'm sure some of his lame "jeeeeesus, aaaa jeeeeesusssssssss, the devil must go. aaaaaa jeeeeeeeeesusssssssssss"" sermons 'inspired' some crazy people, but they were already idiots before he did anything. also, the President of the Virgina ACLU committed a much worse crime IMO. the pastor guy didn't even do anything illegal, he was just a phony. the Congressman that sent dirty emails to interns? shady, but not as bad as supporting child rape videos. Edited May 26, 2007 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted May 27, 2007 Author Share Posted May 27, 2007 QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ May 26, 2007 -> 06:25 PM) There's plenty of members of numerous organizations that have idiots, whackjobs and outright douchebags that previously worked for them. When they are no longer an employee, it should not look badly upon the former employer. Um, he was still on the board, just not the President. in fact, he was on the board until the day he was arrested. It is somewhat signifigant due to the role the ACLU has had in protection child pornographers and people's right to access porn in libraries. Nine years ago, Rust-Tierney addressed the Loudoun County library board in support of an ACLU lawsuit challenging the use of filters on computers at the public library to prevent adults from viewing sexually explicit material on the Internet. A federal judge overturned the policy, ruling that it violated constitutional rights of free speech. "Recognizing that individuals will continue to behave responsibly and appropriately while in the library, the default should be maximum, unrestricted access to the valuable resources of the Internet," Rust-Tierney said in his brief remarks http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7030802115.html And besides, what's the deal with a DUDE having a hyphenated last name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 How many members does the ACLU have at this level? How much space does the national media have? Why aren't my local stories plastered all over the country? We had a school teacher and coach convicted of abusing kids and downloading child pornography. He wasn't national news because he was also a GOP leader and the GOP controlled media kept it out of the newspapers. Where was Fox News on that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 QUOTE(Texsox @ May 27, 2007 -> 01:26 PM) How many members does the ACLU have at this level? How much space does the national media have? Why aren't my local stories plastered all over the country? We had a school teacher and coach convicted of abusing kids and downloading child pornography. He wasn't national news because he was also a GOP leader and the GOP controlled media kept it out of the newspapers. Where was Fox News on that one? a school teacher does not have as much national influence as a the president of the ACLU's Virginia chapter. you know this, texsox. there is a large disparity when comparing the power and the level of scandal of a President of the ACLU and a gym teacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 Yeah, one would get a lot more access to kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 Now I know why ACLU defends Nambla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ May 28, 2007 -> 08:54 AM) Yeah, one would get a lot more access to kids. yes, you are correct. the ACLU does support allowing child molesters to remain anonymous, giving them lots of access to kids. QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 28, 2007 -> 09:52 AM) Now I know why ACLU defends Nambla. how bout it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 QUOTE(mr_genius @ May 27, 2007 -> 01:49 PM) a school teacher does not have as much national influence as a the president of the ACLU's Virginia chapter. you know this, texsox. there is a large disparity when comparing the power and the level of scandal of a President of the ACLU and a gym teacher. How many chapters does the ACLU have nationally? Who is the chapter president where you live? And lets turn this around, if he did something really nice like saved a kid from drowning, would you think the national media should pick up the story? Should the national media cover every murder? The County Clerk here was busted for raping a 15 year old girl, why wasn't that national news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 QUOTE(Texsox @ May 28, 2007 -> 02:00 PM) How many chapters does the ACLU have nationally? Who is the chapter president where you live? And lets turn this around, if he did something really nice like saved a kid from drowning, would you think the national media should pick up the story? Should the national media cover every murder? The County Clerk here was busted for raping a 15 year old girl, why wasn't that national news? how many state chapters? probably 50 . Colleen Connell is in charge to the illinois ACLU. as far as the other stories, yes the media would have picked them up if they were "notable". aka, Republican sends mean emails to people is HUGE. the media picks and chooses which stories it shines the most light on, and many of those decisions are political. honestly, if you don't think the national media is pro-democrat it doesn't really matter and i'm not going to try to convince you any further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 QUOTE(Alpha Dog @ May 26, 2007 -> 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It has been buried. He was caught months ago. I remember it being reported when he was arrested, and now it is being reported because his court date is coming up within the next week. Take off the tin foil. Nothing is being buried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 (edited) i love my tinfoil hat Edited May 28, 2007 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 QUOTE(mr_genius @ May 28, 2007 -> 02:35 PM) how many state chapters? probably 50 . Colleen Connell is in charge to the illinois ACLU. as far as the other stories, yes the media would have picked them up if they were "notable". aka, Republican sends mean emails to people is HUGE. the media picks and chooses which stories it shines the most light on, and many of those decisions are political. honestly, if you don't think the national media is pro-democrat it doesn't really matter and i'm not going to try to convince you any further. Actually that isn't how the ACLU is divided, Illinois for example has ten chapters, Texas has 13, So there are probably 400 Chapter Presidents around the US. Is each one worthy of national media coverage? Sadly, my guess is they would have to kill someone to gain that attention, In fact, when one of them dies, does it make the national news? How many pedophilia stories make the national news? This is a local story and of local interest to most people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ May 26, 2007 -> 05:53 PM) Another pedophile is caught *yawn*. Wake me up when there is some zombies or ninjas. Perhaps some samurai might make this "Teh liberal communist media is keeping us in the dark about a now unemployed ACLU worker from 2002 who was also a kiddie diddler!" hullabaloo a bit more interesting. Plenty of people who worked for plenty of different jobs and organizations have been busted being pedos. Why is this one going to be different and warrant front page coverage on every news outlet? Because the generally protect pedophiles? Its kind of like the Catholic church scandal, but without the scandal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 31, 2007 -> 07:39 AM) Because the generally protect pedophiles? Its kind of like the Catholic church scandal, but without the scandal. I'm generally not a big fan of the ACLU, they tend to be suing my Church and my employer on a semi-regular basis. But to be fair, they are always defending the Constitution. They do this by making certain that the lowest forms of life are allowed their rights. By making certain that those low life's are allowed all the rights that the Constitution guarantees, we know that everyone else will be protected as well. I don't see anyone else doing that. Free legal services are a rare thing for scum bags to get. It also makes for strange bedfellows. I know one very conservative former attorney turned Judge who was very supportive of the ACLU. His love of our legal system and our Constitution was great enough to want to see it preserved. He would speak of a slippery slope when scum bags (my words) lose their Constitutional rights just for being scum bags. My problem, and I am certain quite a few others here, is how they interpret the Constitution. I never have liked it when we try and paint an entire organization bad based on the actions of a small percentage of members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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