Chisoxfn Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 QUOTE(aboz56 @ May 29, 2007 -> 05:35 PM) Your man crush on Erstad continues... Of course. I appreciate the way he plays the game. I also understand you can't have 9 superstars in your lineup and Erstad is the type of role playing starter that flat out helps you win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ May 29, 2007 -> 07:36 PM) 21 pitches Isn't it sad we not only need quality outings from our pitchers, but it also seems we need 7 innings minimum with our pen? *Sighs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ May 30, 2007 -> 12:34 AM) One bad read...big whoops. It sucked and it could have bit the Sox but the guy has played superb in center. I know the Mackowiak experience made everyone appreciate anyone that can catch the ball, but his defense is just incredibly overrated right now. For someone that can't contribute anything with his arm, he's made too many mistakes out there. That's already 6 or 7 he's made this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Uh oh, looked like Rob almost stepped on Morneau. Time to b**** and whine about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 God damn guys be patient. Geez 1st 2nd pitch swings for outs aint cuttin it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briguy27 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 mackowiak and uribe constantly swing for the mall of america Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 29, 2007 -> 05:36 PM) In terms of defense, he's our 3rd best defensive CF in the last 3 years. Now I know that's a high standard, but 3rd best out of 3 years does not equal superb. What, when Rowand was one of the 3-4 best in the game 2 seasons ago. Brian Anderson was one of the 3-4 best in the game last season. Ya, that would mean superb. In fact I think Erstad has been as good as those two were (or at least very close). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ May 29, 2007 -> 07:37 PM) Of course. I appreciate the way he plays the game. I also understand you can't have 9 superstars in your lineup and Erstad is the type of role playing starter that flat out helps you win. I agree with all this, but his defense is absoultely nowhere near superb. That was a nice inning. It's like a flashback to yesterday, great approach one inning and horrible the next. Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ May 29, 2007 -> 08:37 PM) Of course. I appreciate the way he plays the game. I also understand you can't have 9 superstars in your lineup and Erstad is the type of role playing starter that flat out helps you win. I don't mind him at all. He's played well. Hopefully we'll get a FA for CF for next season and Ersty could be in left next year or as a 4th OF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briguy27 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 QUOTE(aboz56 @ May 29, 2007 -> 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't mind him at all. He's played well. Hopefully we'll get a FA for CF for next season and Ersty could be in left next year or as a 4th OF. yea like ichiro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 gotta do better against Poof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ May 29, 2007 -> 07:38 PM) In fact I think Erstad has been as good as those two were (or at least very close). I'll just hope your kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ May 29, 2007 -> 07:38 PM) What, when Rowand was one of the 3-4 best in the game 2 seasons ago. Brian Anderson was one of the 3-4 best in the game last season. Ya, that would mean superb. In fact I think Erstad has been as good as those two were (or at least very close). 1. Anderson (slight edge due to arm, but he didn't exactly light up the assist meters either) 2. Erstad 3. Rowand And it's a lot closer between BA and Erstad than Darin and Aaron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 QUOTE(briguy27 @ May 29, 2007 -> 07:39 PM) yea like ichiro We need to steal Torii Hunter from that team up north, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ May 30, 2007 -> 12:38 AM) What, when Rowand was one of the 3-4 best in the game 2 seasons ago. Brian Anderson was one of the 3-4 best in the game last season. Ya, that would mean superb. In fact I think Erstad has been as good as those two were (or at least very close). See, I never bought into the hype of either of those guys defensively. All three of our recent center fielders are terrible at throwing accurately with anything on the ball, and all of them make too many mistakes for their "billing". Erstad has been fine on defense, but he's nowhere near as good as Hawk, Ozzie, etc. make him out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ May 29, 2007 -> 08:38 PM) What, when Rowand was one of the 3-4 best in the game 2 seasons ago. Brian Anderson was one of the 3-4 best in the game last season. Ya, that would mean superb. In fact I think Erstad has been as good as those two were (or at least very close). As far as the reads he gets, absolutely, he is up there with the best. I think the fact that he is older and his body isn't what it once was makes people think less of the guy as a fielder. He's taken a ridiculous amount of punishment over his career and he's still an above average centerfielder. Personally, as much as I love Rowand, I think he was overrated out there. He had a lot of nice catches, but they were only nice catches because he made a bad read and had to make up for it by bailing himself out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briguy27 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 29, 2007 -> 07:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We need to steal Torii Hunter from that team up north, imo. that would work too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(briguy27 @ May 29, 2007 -> 07:39 PM) yea like ichiro Hunter will be too expensive if he continues to stay healthy and puts up comparable numbers, same with Ichiro...Andruw Jones' price might be falling, but the downside of a long-term contract at this point in his career will cause KW to shy away. Edited May 30, 2007 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 QUOTE(aboz56 @ May 30, 2007 -> 12:39 AM) I don't mind him at all. He's played well. Hopefully we'll get a FA for CF for next season and Ersty could be in left next year or as a 4th OF. We both know Erstad would never, ever be in our plans as a 4th outfielder. If I had to guess right now, we'll see Rowand in CF and Erstad in LF next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I'll put it this way. Arm: Anderson > Rowand > Erstad Range Anderson > Rowand/Erstad (even) Routes Erstad > Rowand > Anders Anderson was by far the most talented and because of it the best, but Erstad takes super routes and gets the best reads of the bunch. Rowand was just flat out solid at everything (although I know most will knock his arm because its not as accurate as it should be and fact of the matter in 05 his arm was piss poor). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ May 29, 2007 -> 08:42 PM) We both know Erstad would never, ever be in our plans as a 4th outfielder. If I had to guess right now, we'll see Rowand in CF and Erstad in LF next year. Possible, I'd welcome Rowand back, but we sure as hell better not break the bank to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 can't let bartlett hurt u like yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshot7 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 been out of town - what were the moves the Sox made following Ozuna's injury & Sisco's demotion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 We better hope Danks is effectively wild tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 what's BA hitting in Charlotte? a robust 260? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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