The Time To Act... Unfortunately is Now.

[iamshack]

Kenny Williams is the 5th best GM in the Central division and has overseen the "construction" of the worst farm system in major league baseball. If Kenny wants to be really proactive here, his next move might be to fire himself.

 

First of all, we don't have the worst farm system in major league baseball. Secondly, when your team is a perennial contender, you tend to have to trade players from your farm system to take a shot at winning the division. His moves have resulted in a World Championship and several teams that had every bit of talent they needed to win countless more divisions and they didn't get it done on the field.

 

Terry Ryan is a great GM. Mark Shapiro is a very intelligent young man. Dave Dombrowski has done some good things in Detroit. Dayton Moore has made some curious moves in his short time as KC's GM, and the book is still out on him.

 

Only one AL Central GM has put together a team which has won a World Series, and that's Kenny. How that makes him the fifth best GM in the division is just more reactionary BS.

 

Just remember, it's really easy to sit on your ass and second guess when everything is in hindsight.

 

I find it insulting that you think I am reacting like this because I am influenced by Moronotti.

Get a clue.

 

Then stop mirroring his personal philosophies.

[JDsDirtySox]

Then stop mirroring his personal philosophies.

 

 

Then tell me sir... what do you have in mind for fixing this mess?

 

First of all, we don't have the worst farm system in major league baseball. Secondly, when your team is a perennial contender, you tend to have to trade players from your farm system to take a shot at winning the division. His moves have resulted in a World Championship and several teams that had every bit of talent they needed to win countless more divisions and they didn't get it done on the field.

 

Terry Ryan is a great GM. Mark Shapiro is a very intelligent young man. Dave Dombrowski has done some good things in Detroit. Dayton Moore has made some curious moves in his short time as KC's GM, and the book is still out on him.

 

Only one AL Central GM has put together a team which has won a World Series, and that's Kenny. How that makes him the fifth best GM in the division is just more reactionary BS.

 

Just remember, it's really easy to sit on your ass and second guess when everything is in hindsight.

 

You praise Kenny for a 2005 Championship... and I will do the same, but if you want to give him credit you need to put some blame on him for this mess. KW was the one who acted like a cocky bastard in the offseason stating "Trust Me... Trust Me" when it came to the bullpen and the failur to address the need at SS or LF. This is a major problem. One we can't just run and hide from behind our 2005 World Series Trophy.

Edited June 4, 2007 by JDsDirtySox

[iamshack]

Then tell me sir... what do you have in mind for fixing this mess?

 

You see, that's the difference between me and alot of others on here. I don't claim to have a damn clue why the players aren't producing. All I know is that acting in a rash, ignorant, and irresponsible manner due to anger and frustration usually doesn't produce very good results either.

 

I've made suggestions in other threads on what I think the best course of action is. But honestly, at some point, the players simply have to produce. And when they don't, you lose. It's that simple. But the best long term answer isn't to fire everyone in sight or trade away players at their historical low value points. Should we have traded Buehrle last year when he was struggling to the Red Sox for Coco Crisp?

[JDsDirtySox]

You see, that's the difference between me and alot of others on here. I don't claim to have a damn clue why the players aren't producing. All I know is that acting in a rash, ignorant, and irresponsible manner due to anger and frustration usually doesn't produce very good results either.

 

I've made suggestions in other threads on what I think the best course of action is. But honestly, at some point, the players simply have to produce. And when they don't, you lose. It's that simple. But the best long term answer isn't to fire everyone in sight or trade away players at their historical low value points. Should we have traded Buehrle last year when he was struggling to the Red Sox for Coco Crisp?

 

 

So you are saying you'd do nothing then right?

In my posts you will never see me say Fire Ozzie, Fire KW, Trade Buehrle, etc.... I simply want to see something done. Hell, I don't care if that something is bringing back Man Soo Lee.

We need an awakening... I don't believe this team in its current makeup is a good team.

Hopefully the Bullpen Swap with Charlotte will be a start.

[iamshack]

You praise Kenny for a 2005 Championship... and I will do the same, but if you want to give him credit you need to put some blame on him for this mess. KW was the one who acted like a cocky bastard in the offseason stating "Trust Me... Trust Me" when it came to the bullpen and the failur to address the need at SS or LF. This is a major problem. One we can't just run and hide from behind our 2005 World Series Trophy.

 

Kenny was absolutely 100% correct in saying trust him. Everyone was going crazy about the McCarthy deal, without knowing a thing about the guys we got back. Now despite Masset's failure today, I think 95% of people on here believe Kenny made the right decision there (as of now, anyways). Kenny's other moves regarding the bullpen were minor moves that most people supported at the time (Sisco, Aardsma and Vazquez).

 

Blaming Kenny for Mike Macdougal and David Aardsma pitching to 15 ERAs over the last three weeks is ridiculously irresponsible.

 

So you are saying you'd do nothing then right?

In my posts you will never see me say Fire Ozzie, Fire KW, Trade Buehrle, etc.... I simply want to see something done. Hell, I don't care if that something is bringing back Man Soo Lee.

We need an awakening... I don't believe this team in its current makeup is a good team.

Hopefully the Bullpen Swap with Charlotte will be a start.

 

Not at all. I'm saying I would send some guys down and bring some other guys up. I'm saying I would continue playing Fields at 3b in Charlotte in anticipation of him being our future third basemen. I'm saying I'd consider dealing Buehrle in July for lot of young talent. I'm saying I would consider moving Dye as well if he hitting reasonably well. I'd try to resign Iguchi on the cheap any chance I get while he is hitting like crap in his FA year. I'd bring up Anderson and start him every day in Center and hope he hits and then trade him away because obviously Ozzie is disgusted by him.

 

There are plenty of things I would do, but firing Ozzie or Kenny wouldn't be one of them. Neither would trading Joe Crede while there are major injury concerns combined with a slumping bat.

[JDsDirtySox]

It has gotten to the point where I would rather watch the NBA Finals.