Steff Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 QUOTE(Brian @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 03:25 PM) If a starter like Verlander can throw 98 consistently, good for them, but I think velocity is kind of overrated for a starter. Locate, change speeds, get guys out. It takes 1 pitch to get a ground out or fly out and 3 pitches to get a strike out. ^^, and it's something Z does more often than not. Any team would love to have him. QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 03:30 PM) Preach on...I may think he's a dick on the field, but he also cares about the game and I think that passion (while it can cause incidents like today's) is something that you can't teach and it truly is an asset. He's a dick off the field, too. But like you said it doesn't matter. Show me production between the lines and I'm happy to send in my $$. I wish our guys had a bit more of a chip on their shoulders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 I actually think its less surprising that Barrett would be involved than Zambrano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 03:32 PM) ^^, and it's something Z does more often than not. Any team would love to have him. He's a dick off the field, too. But like you said it doesn't matter. Show me production between the lines and I'm happy to send in my $$. I wish our guys had a bit more of a chip on their shoulders. Exactly this can be turned into a positive if it brings out a better effort. Guillen is the kind of guy that can get through to Zambrano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 QUOTE(HeGone33 @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 03:11 PM) we need a youtube of this pronto not possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagotony06 Posted June 1, 2007 Author Share Posted June 1, 2007 QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 03:35 PM) Exactly this can be turned into a positive if it brings out a better effort. Guillen is the kind of guy that can get through to Zambrano. Guillen can't get through to the players he has now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Someone on northsidebaseball.com is uploading the video to youtube now. I'll post the link when he has it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 01:32 PM) ^^, and it's something Z does more often than not. Any team would love to have him. He's a dick off the field, too. But like you said it doesn't matter. Show me production between the lines and I'm happy to send in my $$. I wish our guys had a bit more of a chip on their shoulders. I think we need more guys like him and more athletes as well (same starting rotation) and we have a winner. The team isn't far away, problem is the moves that would have to be made are relatively ballsy ones and I don't know if Kenny will be able to find teams willing to make those type of trades at this point in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 This is the TBS footage. The Chicago Comcast has more and a better angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagotony06 Posted June 1, 2007 Author Share Posted June 1, 2007 They just showed it again on WGN, and after the incident, it looks like they might have went at it again in the clubhouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Good s***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 QUOTE(diegotony06 @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 03:47 PM) They just showed it again on WGN, and after the incident, it looks like they might have went at it again in the clubhouse. they totally did, Lee rushed back there, Rich Hill came out and got Lou. That team is a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 They'll move Zambrano I think. They won't get what they would have got in the offseason, but they could still get something good for him. I'm sure Omar Minaya is on the phone right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 03:56 PM) They'll move Zambrano I think. They won't get what they would have got in the offseason, but they could still get something good for him. I'm sure Omar Minaya is on the phone right now. KW should be on the phone right now. We could then swing someone for a bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagotony06 Posted June 1, 2007 Author Share Posted June 1, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 03:54 PM) they totally did, Lee rushed back there, Rich Hill came out and got Lou. That team is a mess. Zambrano really must be an idiot if he went after Barrett again in the clubhouse. The guy is a free agent, and he is gonna risk getting hurt in fight, and possibly jeopardizing his career. What a f***in moron. I wouldn't want this guy on my team never. He is a f***in nut!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 ever since I was young, and people would talk about "team chemistry" my dad pointed to the early 70's A's and said if the team is winning anything passes if the team loses the team either hates each other or they show no signs of life, and I've always bought that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 02:56 PM) They'll move Zambrano I think. They won't get what they would have got in the offseason, but they could still get something good for him. I'm sure Omar Minaya is on the phone right now. Trying to get the real Zambrano this time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Their fans are running onto the field. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Paul Sullivan did a hack job piece on how the Sox might be tired of AJ's act and quoted Buehrle's tounge in cheek comments as serious material. I'm betting he's going to dance around this story and make at least one reference to Buehrle hating AJ. Zambrano is a total tool, but I think Barrett is more a distraction in the clubhouse. Oh yeah, Zambrano is nowhere near Johan Santana's league, and he's not a "proven ace." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 And now a fan has apparently ran onto the field as Ramirez hit a HR. Must be a Sox fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Their fans are running onto the field. LOL Really? This just give the Tribune more excuses and ammo to bring up the Ligues and Dybas again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 03:56 PM) They'll move Zambrano I think. They won't get what they would have got in the offseason, but they could still get something good for him. I'm sure Omar Minaya is on the phone right now. Hopefully someone from the Sox front office is on their way over to s***tyville to give Z a ride over to the south side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> KW should be on the phone right now. We could then swing someone for a bat. Zambrano sucks this year and has never been good in AL parks. I'll pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 03:59 PM) Hopefully someone from the Sox front office is on their way over to s***tyville to give Z a ride over to the south side. Why the hell not? At least give Jimbo a call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 After the initial altercation, Zambrano was shown walking tothe clubhouse and Barrett remained in the dugout. If they went at it again in the locker room, Barrett went down there to either start something again or apologize and settle him down. Who knows. QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 04:00 PM) Zambrano sucks this year and has never been good in AL parks. I'll pass. Yeah, let's continue to truck Vazquez out there every 5th day. I feel comfortable with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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