southsideirish71 Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 GREG WALKER THE BEST HITTING COACH IN ALL OF BASEBALL, LMAO. No hits since the 3rd. No hits in over 50 ABs against relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxMatt Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 Lets sign John Franco, Lee Smith, Dennis Eckersly, and Goose Gossage...SERIOUSLY!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 The only thing making this somewhat tolerable is the Cubs' implosion, but that's actually shielding KW from scrutiny from the media for the time being, when the Cubs and Yankees are being dissected every day by the national media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan79 Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 I am wearing a Bears Jersey to the game Monday night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 This season is over unless Kenny makes some miracle moves. Seriously, it is. Tell me all you want how I am a major pessimist and blah blah blah but we aren't winning more than 75 games with a bullpen as s***ty as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 07:50 PM) For f*** sake...bring up Charlotte's pen and just keep Bobby. And for you b****es blaming Ozzie, what the f*** is he supposed to do....bring in a position player because whatever reliever he'll bring in (not named Bobby) is going to suck miserably. This is f***ing worse than that Boston bullpen by committee of a couple years ago. Good lord. I'm not blaming Ozzie for this loss....but when someone continues to make decisions that end up costing us runs/games in the 6th thru 8th inning, he does deserve some blame. We really have to stop letting Contreras start innings when he's around the 100 pitch mark though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 QUOTE(chisoxfan79 @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 02:51 PM) I am wearing a Bears Jersey to the game Monday night I'm gonna wear my AJ Hawk jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 02:50 PM) I called this situation about 5 minutes before it happened. not much of an accomplishment. anytime one of the sox relievers come in I could "call" a bad outing. I would be right like 80% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan79 Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 QUOTE(WSoxMatt @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 07:51 PM) Lets sign John Franco, Lee Smith, Dennis Eckersly, and Goose Gossage...SERIOUSLY!!!! I am with ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 02:50 PM) Ask our GM. 0 for 50, game over. The Smugass GM is hiding under his desk, he only wants to show he face to say everyone gets what I am doing outsidew Chicago , and look like a dumbass for saying it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 07:50 PM) For f*** sake...bring up Charlotte's pen and just keep Bobby. And for you b****es blaming Ozzie, what the f*** is he supposed to do....bring in a position player because whatever reliever he'll bring in (not named Bobby) is going to suck miserably. Quick question: do you find no fault with Ozzie for blowing 10 games with late leads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 is it 0-50 or 0-47? Either way it's terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan79 Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 07:52 PM) I'm gonna wear my AJ Hawk jersey Green Bay sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 QUOTE(mr_genius @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 07:52 PM) not much of an accomplishment. anytime one of the sox relievers come in I could "call" a bad outing. I would be right like 80% of the time. Ha, true. I was referring more to playing into the Jays hands by facing Wells instead of Stairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 02:53 PM) Quick question: do you find no fault with Ozzie for blowing 10 games with late leads? He's made some bad moves, but even if he makes the right moves in those games, our pen blows it, just a different guy does the deed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 a big reason we won in '05 is because our bullpen was filthy in late innings. This pen is so far away from being adequate that I can't imagine any dramatic turnarounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 12:53 PM) Quick question: do you find no fault with Ozzie for blowing 10 games with late leads? I actually think this has been Ozzie's best year as a manager, albeit the last couple games have not been as good. Has he made some mistakes, sure, but every manager does, and I think the main issue with the blown 10 games is the fact that this is one of the worse pens in baseball over the past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 That was a kickass MB commercial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 02:53 PM) is it 0-50 or 0-47? Either way it's terrible. 0-50. It was 0-44 entering today and their pen threw 2 perfect. QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 02:54 PM) I actually think this has been Ozzie's best year as a manager, albeit the last couple games have not been as good. Has he made some mistakes, sure, but every manager does, and I think the main issue with the blown 10 games is the fact that this is one of the worse pens in baseball over the past few years. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 02:53 PM) Quick question: do you find no fault with Ozzie for blowing 10 games with late leads? IMO Thorton should be the one getting beat at this point. Or take the drastic step and have Jenks the first one out of the bullpen and let the others blow it late, at least it will get to the later innings. Prinz and Gio should be on a plane right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 Kenny cannot get good relievers and when he does Ozzie has no clue how to use them..............A great combination to have in MLB in 2007! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 Gio isn't ready. Don't compound the problem by rushing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan79 Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 I have never liked the way Oz has handled the bullpen even in 05 I will admit when Oz went to get El Duque in game 3 of the LDS I wanted to kill him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 07:54 PM) I actually think this has been Ozzie's best year as a manager, albeit the last couple games have not been as good. Has he made some mistakes, sure, but every manager does, and I think the main issue with the blown 10 games is the fact that this is one of the worse pens in baseball over the past few years. I'd have to say he managed better in 2005 In all honesty, he was a very good manager during April. However, he's really struggled the last couple of weeks. In no way am I saying this is all his fault. However, when things are going this bad, it's up to the GM and Manager to do something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 12:52 PM) I'm not blaming Ozzie for this loss....but when someone continues to make decisions that end up costing us runs/games in the 6th thru 8th inning, he does deserve some blame. We really have to stop letting Contreras start innings when he's around the 100 pitch mark though. please tell me who the hell you're talking about bringing into the game? Because I see no one in the pen getting anyone out. I'm sure you can find many other things to hang on Ozzie, but you're forcing the issue here. His hands are tied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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